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dxAce July 10th 06 07:48 PM

This Really Sucks
 


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most prolific
pedant and fake Hispanic since c. 2000 wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

I know the station itself could care less.


Yep, you know everything, oh fake one!


Your closes 790 would the Bay City / Saginaw, and I guarantee you that they
have no interest in the Grand Rapids market.


Your guarantees are meaningless, oh fake one!

Go shill somewhere else.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David July 10th 06 08:28 PM

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:41:46 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


If they are out of the metro (MSA), we don't care. There is no money in out
of market audience.


Like you speak for the industry.


David July 10th 06 08:29 PM

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:41:42 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?

Frank Dresser


The religious types and ethnics always seem to be able to make a go of
things nobody else wants.


Ron Hardin July 10th 06 09:03 PM

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Well, you can avoid most IBOC interference at the moment by nulling
it away with your no doubt directional antenna. With multiple IBOCs
on the same frequency that won't work, of course. And you may
already be using your null to take out another station on the same
frequency, which hobby will disappear.

Also the IBOC hash is much stronger on the sideband away from the
offending station, so use LSB to listen to 770 hashed by 760's station,
and USB to listen to 750 hashed by 760's station.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

dxAce July 10th 06 09:11 PM

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Ron Hardin wrote:

Well, you can avoid most IBOC interference at the moment by nulling
it away with your no doubt directional antenna. With multiple IBOCs
on the same frequency that won't work, of course. And you may
already be using your null to take out another station on the same
frequency, which hobby will disappear.

Also the IBOC hash is much stronger on the sideband away from the
offending station, so use LSB to listen to 770 hashed by 760's station,
and USB to listen to 750 hashed by 760's station.


It no work! If the hash from 760 is already physically on the 770 frequency then
the 770 frequency is unusable.





dxAce July 10th 06 09:16 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

Well, you can avoid most IBOC interference at the moment by nulling
it away with your no doubt directional antenna. With multiple IBOCs
on the same frequency that won't work, of course. And you may
already be using your null to take out another station on the same
frequency, which hobby will disappear.

Also the IBOC hash is much stronger on the sideband away from the
offending station, so use LSB to listen to 770 hashed by 760's station,
and USB to listen to 750 hashed by 760's station.


It no work! If the hash from 760 is already physically on the 770 frequency then
the 770 frequency is unusable.


And... I just tried it with the problem I have here with WBBM 780 Chicago which runs
HD/IBOC QRM interfering with 790. If I switch to 790 USB I actually get more
hash/noise than I get with 790 LSB.

And yes, I tried it with four receivers, Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B... all the same.



[email protected] July 10th 06 09:23 PM

lazy ace
 

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.
justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?

Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.

sure does

it all about challange

you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if
they survive you greedy lazy jerk


Careling? Isn't that something folks tend to do around Christmas time?

Greedy? Well, yes, I suppose. I'm for getting all I can.

and you like the hypocrtie you are claiming right only for yourself

I'm not lazy, I'm retired.

yes you are lazy

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Steve July 10th 06 09:24 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW
within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing
while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in
the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Yeah, saving AM through QRM.

Great plan there, Edweenie!

I love it when you use the *WE* shtick. It sounds so, well it sounds so
egotistical!


iBiquity is backed by every major broadcast company, right down to companies
like UnoRadio Group in Puerto Rico. That is the "we" I refer to... the
broadcast industry and its leaders.


Thanks, but I'm not looking to buy anything today.


Steve July 10th 06 09:25 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW
within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing
while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in
the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Yeah, saving AM through QRM.

Great plan there, Edweenie!

I love it when you use the *WE* shtick. It sounds so, well it sounds so
egotistical!


iBiquity is backed by every major broadcast company, right down to companies
like UnoRadio Group in Puerto Rico. That is the "we" I refer to... the
broadcast industry and its leaders.


I'm just browsing right now...not looking to buy anything. Thanks.


Brian Hill July 10th 06 09:56 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Link Please

BH



dxAce July 10th 06 10:07 PM

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Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


Link Please


http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm



[email protected] July 10th 06 10:11 PM

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dxAce wrote:
Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


Link Please


http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm

nobody dipcited there looks to be in poor health


Brian Hill July 10th 06 10:12 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


Link Please


http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm



Yep. I concur.

BH



dxAce July 10th 06 10:18 PM

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" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.

Link Please


http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm

nobody dipcited there looks to be in poor health


I never dipcited a thing officer... I swear!



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 10:20 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.


This IBOC shill is all over the NGs...


IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 10:27 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?


It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease.


This guy is unbelievable - what a salesman ! I wonder, if he ever
dabbled in used cars ? Hey bud, we'll see - to try and mandate that
all future AM/FM radios be able to receive/procees IBOC is absurd !
IBOC is going to save AM/FM - what a ****ing joke ! I am sure many
people, including myself, are perfectly happy with AM/FM, as it is; if
anything, new programming formats will "save" the airwaves, not some
crummy new broadcasting transmission technology !


David Eduardo July 10th 06 10:32 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most
prolific
pedant and general all 'round **** wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy
the
radios. AM stereo came and went.


It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced,
it
would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By
the
time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium.


When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


I am in fine health. I bicycle cross country about 25 miles a day on
weekends. What do you do?



David Eduardo July 10th 06 10:34 PM

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.


They COULDN'T care less! COULDN'T. If they COULD care less, that
means they care now!


You are right... I suppose they could care less, but that is unlikely. They
care not a tad.



RHF July 10th 06 10:36 PM

HD-IBOC - The Death of AM/MW Radio Listening . . .
 
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
wrote:
- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


Buy a HD radio.

Seriously.

The Boston Acoustics Receptor HD, when tuning *analog* stations, seems
largely immune to IBOC QRM from *digital* stations on adjacent
frequencies. The set uses digital signal processing of analog signals;
I might guess that it uses the opposite digital sideband to cancel out
the one that's interfering with the desired analog station.

In general, my experience has been that the Receptor HD is a pretty
decent analog radio, both AM and FM, if you give it a decent antenna.
(the antennas provided with the radio are crap) Of course, it is pretty
expensive as well!


- Of course, the problem for the radio industry is that
- almost nobody *has* a Receptor HD - when the
- interference cranks up, people will buy XM or Sirius,
- put in a CD, or turn on the TV long before they'll buy
- a HD radio.

DS [W9WI] - Yes in spite of the idea behind HD-IBOC
AM/MW Broadcasting as being the 'savior' of AM Radio.
Many DX {Out-of-Area} Listeners may simply Turn-Off
the AM Radio and Turn-On something else. ~ RHF

In the SF Bay currently I can hear many Out-of-Area
AM/MW {Analog} Radio Stations like :
Sacramento - KSTE 650 kHz and KFBK 1530 kHz
Fresno KRE 580 kHz
With HD-IBOC these AM Signals will be under the
Digital Signal Hash an no longer be able to be heard.
* With HD-IBOC these AM Signals will be under the
Digital Signal Hash an no longer be able to be heard.
* Local Only - HD-IBOC will result in about 30 AM
Radio Stations that could be heard easily with 6-7
of those being so close to the each other that the
number may even be smaller.

In the Twain Harte, CA currently I can hear many
Out-of-Area AM/MW {Analog} Radio Stations like :
Sacramento - KSTE 650 kHz and KFBK 1530 kHz
Fresno KRE 580 kHz
* With HD-IBOC these AM Signals will be under the
Digital Signal Hash an no longer be able to be heard.
* Local Only - HD-IBOC will result in about 9 AM
Radio Stations that could be heard easily.


--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


dxAce July 10th 06 10:39 PM

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Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.

Link Please


http://www.davidgleason.com/2004_NAB.htm



Yep. I concur.


Here though, on this page is my favourite pic:

http://www.davidgleason.com/1998_Radio_Ink.htm

Gotta love the hair!

I wish I had an autographed copy of that one.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dxAce July 10th 06 11:14 PM

This Really Sucks
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most
prolific
pedant and general all 'round **** wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy
the
radios. AM stereo came and went.


It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced,
it
would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By
the
time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium.


When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


I am in fine health. I bicycle cross country about 25 miles a day on
weekends.


Better up it to 50.

dxAce
(Fitness trainer to the fakes)
Michigan
USA



David July 11th 06 12:18 AM

HD-IBOC - The Death of AM/MW Radio Listening . . .
 
On 10 Jul 2006 14:36:39 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:



In the Twain Harte, CA currently I can hear many
Out-of-Area AM/MW {Analog} Radio Stations like :
Sacramento - KSTE 650 kHz and KFBK 1530 kHz
Fresno KRE 580 kHz
* With HD-IBOC these AM Signals will be under the
Digital Signal Hash an no longer be able to be heard.
* Local Only - HD-IBOC will result in about 9 AM
Radio Stations that could be heard easily.


The only stations I can get at night are KNX and a bunch of
out-of-market stations e.g. KGO and KKOH. (Yeah, I can get KSL and
KFBK, too, but they suck). KDWN has some choice moments on occasion.


David Eduardo July 11th 06 01:05 AM

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in
the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Here's one for you Eduardo..


Name is David Eduardo, like Billy Bob. You would not call Billy Bob just
plain "Bob" would you?

Out in Richfield, Utah, we had a single local station.


That area looks like it has about a dozen FMs giving primary service now,
including two in Richfield, several more in Price and a bunch in places like
Manti, etc.

Almost nobody listened to it, preferring instead to listen to much more
distant Salt Lake stations.


I would assume that most listen to the plethora of local FMs now.

And those Salt Lake stations most certainly did have regional
advertisements, even for local/semilocal businesses like car dealerships,
etc. Mind you, there were SOME listeners of the local station, mainly
those farmers that wanted the farm news.


And today? I would imagine that most people under their mid-40's won´t put
up with anything on AM and would prefer the local FMs over some distant AM.



David Eduardo July 11th 06 02:03 AM

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:33 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

I know the station itself could care less.

You are an idiot. I don't know a real broadcaster on the planet who
reacts with indifference when told his signal is getting trashed and
that he has lost a listener.


Kinda the way I see it, too. If they didn't care about losing listeners
outside their "market", then why would they give a damn about pirates?


Pirates are a concern in a specific market to the stations licensed in that
market.

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings. Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this out-of-metro
audience.



dxAce July 11th 06 02:12 AM

This Really Sucks
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in
the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Here's one for you Eduardo..


Name is David Eduardo, like Billy Bob.


Your name is David Frackelton, like... like...

LMFAO



Billy Smith July 11th 06 02:46 AM

This Really Sucks
 
wrote:
dxAce wrote:

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA



- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


Are you talking about IBOC and their crap or the infamous DX Ass. You
can filter him by simply flushing the toilet.

Billy Smith July 11th 06 02:52 AM

This Really Sucks
 
dxAce wrote:


David Eduardo wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most
prolific
pedant and general all 'round **** wrote:


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy
the
radios. AM stereo came and went.


It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced,
it
would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By
the
time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium.

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.


I am in fine health. I bicycle cross country about 25 miles a day on
weekends.



Better up it to 50.

dxAce
(Fitness trainer to the fakes)
Michigan
USA



Ace is a 400 pound greasy pile of crap who just sits behind his radios
all day and posts his crap on here.

Billy Smith July 11th 06 03:04 AM

This Really Sucks
 
IBOC_sucks_! wrote:

dxAce wrote:

"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:


dxAce wrote:

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.


As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


Means that he would have to cut himself to pieces. Because all DX Ass
has in his life is bull****

Billy Smith July 11th 06 03:05 AM

This Really Sucks
 
IBOC_sucks_! wrote:

dxAce wrote:

"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:


dxAce wrote:

"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:


dxAce wrote:

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



You really are a hostile little boy.


He might get upset and hit you with his purse

David July 11th 06 03:35 AM

This Really Sucks
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings. Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.



David Eduardo July 11th 06 03:43 AM

This Really Sucks
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings.
Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA
station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.


There is no way to serve listeners that are a two hour drive away from one's
licensed city and market.



[email protected] July 11th 06 07:12 AM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?


It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease.


So AM stations become cheaper to buy and thus less corporate influence.
So the problem is?????


dxAce July 11th 06 10:45 AM

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David wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings. Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.


This from the October 2004 edition of "Tattler":

Univision's David Gleason told the crowd that radio should focus on listeners,
not on the market.
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dxAce July 11th 06 10:54 AM

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Billy Smith wrote:

dxAce wrote:


David Eduardo wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most
prolific
pedant and general all 'round **** wrote:


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy
the
radios. AM stereo came and went.


It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced,
it
would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By
the
time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium.

When are you going to die as a fraud medium? Judging by your latest
pictures,
you don't look to be in the greatest health.

I am in fine health. I bicycle cross country about 25 miles a day on
weekends.



Better up it to 50.

dxAce
(Fitness trainer to the fakes)
Michigan
USA



Ace is a 400 pound greasy pile of crap who just sits behind his radios
all day and posts his crap on here.


I generally sit in *front* of my radios, as it makes them a lot easier to tune.

You might try it some time.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David July 11th 06 01:41 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:43:26 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



There is no way to serve listeners that are a two hour drive away from one's
licensed city and market.


I think you fail to grasp the concept.


[email protected] July 11th 06 03:35 PM

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I believe IBOC is a Really BAD idea.
cuhulin


David Eduardo July 11th 06 04:37 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings.
Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA
station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this
out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.


This from the October 2004 edition of "Tattler":

Univision's David Gleason told the crowd that radio should focus on
listeners,
not on the market.


You don't even know what that means.

It means pay attention to the listeners themselves, not the "trends" and
stuff in the market itself... rumor and heresy and insider remarks.



dxAce July 11th 06 04:43 PM

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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' the fake Hispanic since c.2000
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro ratings.
Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA
station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this
out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.


This from the October 2004 edition of "Tattler":

Univision's David Gleason told the crowd that radio should focus on
listeners,
not on the market.


You don't even know what that means.


It means what it says, oh fake one.



David Eduardo July 11th 06 05:30 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' the fake Hispanic since
c.2000
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro
ratings.
Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA
station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in
Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this
out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.

This from the October 2004 edition of "Tattler":

Univision's David Gleason told the crowd that radio should focus on
listeners,
not on the market.


You don't even know what that means.


It means what it says, oh fake one.


That is one phrase, taken out of context. It makes a nice headline. The year
before, when I said "Spanish is a language not a (radio) format" it also go
t a headline.

The statement, in the context of the Super Session at NAB where I said it,
meant to focus on individulal listener needs, not perceived "groups" of
listeners. Program to the listener one by one, and you will get the groups
of listeners because the groups are made up of individuals. When I am
training announcers, as I also mentioned at NAB, I often tell them to put up
a picture of a typical listener... maybe cut out of a picture from a station
event... and speak to that person as if they were the only listener.

Now you get it?





dxAce July 11th 06 05:37 PM

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David Frackelton Gleason aka 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's shill and fake
Hispanic since c.2000 frayed his best panties when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' the fake Hispanic since
c.2000
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Radio is a local medium, and ad sales are based on local metro
ratings.
Even
stations that do well in ratings in adjacent markets generally get no
benefit from this audience. An example would be KLVE, which is an LA
station
(#1 or #2 there) is also in the top 5 most of the time in
Riverside/San
Bernardino, but does not get any additional revenue from this
out-of-metro
audience.

Radio is supposed to serve the public while selling ads. Part of
serving the public is caring about people who listen, regardless of
whether you can monetize every listener.

This from the October 2004 edition of "Tattler":

Univision's David Gleason told the crowd that radio should focus on
listeners,
not on the market.

You don't even know what that means.


It means what it says, oh fake one.


That is one phrase, taken out of context. It makes a nice headline. The year
before, when I said "Spanish is a language not a (radio) format" it also go
t a headline.

The statement, in the context of the Super Session at NAB where I said it,
meant to focus on individulal listener needs, not perceived "groups" of
listeners. Program to the listener one by one, and you will get the groups
of listeners because the groups are made up of individuals. When I am
training announcers, as I also mentioned at NAB, I often tell them to put up
a picture of a typical listener... maybe cut out of a picture from a station
event... and speak to that person as if they were the only listener.

Now you get it?


Yep, I got your spin, oh fake one.




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