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dxAce wrote: David Frackelton Gleason aka 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's shill and fake Hispanic since c.2000 frayed his best panties when he wrote: Now you get it? Yep, I got your spin, oh fake one. and we see yours |
HD-IBOC - The Death of AM/MW Radio Listening . . . hash, Hash. HASH !
David wrote: On 10 Jul 2006 14:36:39 -0700, "RHF" wrote: In the Twain Harte, CA currently I can hear many Out-of-Area AM/MW {Analog} Radio Stations like : Sacramento - KSTE 650 kHz and KFBK 1530 kHz Fresno KRE 580 kHz * With HD-IBOC these AM Signals will be under the Digital Signal Hash an no longer be able to be heard. * Local Only - HD-IBOC will result in about 9 AM Radio Stations that could be heard easily. The only stations I can get at night are KNX and a bunch of out-of-market stations e.g. KGO and KKOH. (Yeah, I can get KSL and KFBK, too, but they suck). KDWN has some choice moments on occasion. David, In 5-10 years all you will be able to Hear is nothing but hash, Hash. HASH ! from both short and long distance. KFHK 1530 kHz from Sacramento, CA has the "Rush-Re-Play" :o) - For all those, who work during the day and can not listen. http://www.kfbk.com/pages/programschedule.html KSL 1160 kHz from Salt Lake City, UT Does have "When Radio Was" http://www.radiospirits.com/onradio/wrw_future.asp - Hosted by Stan Freberg http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=312&sid=122030 Plus the "Twilight Zone on the Radio" Show http://www.twilightzoneradio.com/ A GREAT IDEA ! Always thought a that the AM Radio Station that 'replayed' "Coast-to-Coast AM" During the Morning from 9-12 -or- during the Day from 12-3 would tap a unique Day-Time group of Listeners. Radio - It's About Listening and Your Ears Don't Lie [.] david - enjoy your radios ~ RHF |
HD-IBOC - The Death of AM/MW Radio Listening . . . hash, Hash. HASH !
On 11 Jul 2006 10:05:10 -0700, "RHF"
wrote: David, In 5-10 years all you will be able to Hear is nothing but hash, Hash. HASH ! from both short and long distance. KFHK 1530 kHz from Sacramento, CA has the "Rush-Re-Play" :o) - For all those, who work during the day and can not listen. http://www.kfbk.com/pages/programschedule.html KSL 1160 kHz from Salt Lake City, UT Does have "When Radio Was" http://www.radiospirits.com/onradio/wrw_future.asp - Hosted by Stan Freberg http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=312&sid=122030 Plus the "Twilight Zone on the Radio" Show http://www.twilightzoneradio.com/ A GREAT IDEA ! Always thought a that the AM Radio Station that 'replayed' "Coast-to-Coast AM" During the Morning from 9-12 -or- during the Day from 12-3 would tap a unique Day-Time group of Listeners. Radio - It's About Listening and Your Ears Don't Lie [.] david - enjoy your radios ~ RHF KFBK was a much better station when I was a kid, as was KSL. Stan Freberg is on AM 1260 (and FM 105.1 HD2) here. XM and Sirius carry the Stacy Keach Twilight Zone. George Noory is on KFI but all I get is the skywave fighting with the groundwave at my house so I have to listen on 780. Or 770. Or 840. You get the idea. |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though. What will happen to AM if it can't be saved? It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease. What will the death of AM be like? Will we someday turn on our AM radios and hear nothing but noise and static, much as the surviviors did in any one of Roger Corman's post apocoplyse movies? Frank Dresser |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy the radios. AM stereo came and went. It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced, it would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By the time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium. AM stereo didn't need Leonard Kahn to fail. The public never cared much about it, Kahn nothwithstanding. But he did provide a convienient excuse. If Kahn wasn't there to blame, it would have been some other damn thing. To quote Alibi Ike: "I coulda hit a homer, but I had a rock in my shoe." Frank Dresser |
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Lloyd 1 wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11 Jul 2006 09:46:34 -0700, an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: David Frackelton Gleason aka 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's shill and fake Hispanic since c.2000 frayed his best panties when he wrote: Now you get it? Yep, I got your spin, oh fake one. and we see yours At least he isn't in alt.radio.scanner.flame_fest calling everyone a racist. Give it a rest. neither I am is some forger calling himself me there more than likely as someone that claims to be the vicutm of the same sort of id theft you should be smarted thanthat -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBRLQFwuAMpZnddBm9EQIyCACfcLipj3g3/p3SDJV51eMx1jVtEhIAnj/S RhmWUkhvCQXHjH0lhjcqNJig =Ic60 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... The statement, in the context of the Super Session at NAB where I said it, meant to focus on individulal listener needs, not perceived "groups" of listeners. Program to the listener one by one, and you will get the groups of listeners because the groups are made up of individuals. When I am training announcers, as I also mentioned at NAB, I often tell them to put up a picture of a typical listener... maybe cut out of a picture from a station event... and speak to that person as if they were the only listener. Now you get it? Yep, I got your spin, oh fake one. Go to the NAB website and you can order the full session on CD. It is the September, 2004 San Diego NAB radio convention, and all sessions are available on CD. Before you hurl any more ignorant statements, listen to the panel and you will see that this is exactly what I said. |
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though. What will happen to AM if it can't be saved? It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease. What will the death of AM be like? Will we someday turn on our AM radios and hear nothing but noise and static, much as the surviviors did in any one of Roger Corman's post apocoplyse movies? Many talk formats are moving to FM. One in Tallahassee did it this week. Others in DC, Salt Lake City and Phoenix have or are doing it. What we will find is a gradual change to pure niche formats (Like KIRN in LA... all Farsi) and then, probably, its demise as the less competitive signals go silent. |
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There is no excuse for the junk that IBOC puts out on the sidebands. It is a
poor excuse of a system. On my current job, we are designing the next generation of VHF/UHF land mobile equipment. One of the measurements I make are ACCP (adjacent channel couple power). It has to be well below a level that could interfere with adjacent channel users. Apparently, either the IBOC folks never heard of a vector signal analyzer, don't know how to use it, or they just didn't care when they launched their inferior system. Pete "dxAce" wrote in message ... "IBOC_sucks_!" wrote: dxAce wrote: " wrote: dxAce wrote: " wrote: dxAce wrote: wrote: I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on 790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780. No can listen no more. justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that? Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy. sure does it all about challange you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if they survive you greedy lazy jerk Careling? Isn't that something folks tend to do around Christmas time? Greedy? Well, yes, I suppose. I'm for getting all I can. I'm not lazy, I'm retired. dxAce Michigan USA You obvioulsy have little to do, but troll this newsgroup with your flames and hostility, because you know that DRM will obsolete your analog SW receivers. Gee, I've heard talk like that since I first was introduced to shortwave radio in the mid 60's. Acting like this, at your age - geeze ! My age? Heck, I'm still fairly young, not even 55 yet. dxAce Michigan USA |
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That is very true............I e-mailed WBBM and never got a response. Last
year, I actually phoned Ibiquity and was referred to an e-mail link. Somebody did respond, extolling the qualities of IBOC. When I asked that person how this system was going to be able to deal with evening propagation, I never got a response. Pete "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on 790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780. No can listen no more. I know the station itself could care less. |
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Neither WBBM, WTMJ, not WGN seemed to care. First hand experience, since I
am one of the people who contacted them, letting them know that they had lost a listener. They don't care. They are too busy putting on appearances, being "with it". Pete "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. "David" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:33 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on 790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780. No can listen no more. I know the station itself could care less. You are an idiot. I don't know a real broadcaster on the planet who reacts with indifference when told his signal is getting trashed and that he has lost a listener. If they are out of the metro (MSA), we don't care. There is no money in out of market audience. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', since c.2000 wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... The statement, in the context of the Super Session at NAB where I said it, meant to focus on individulal listener needs, not perceived "groups" of listeners. Program to the listener one by one, and you will get the groups of listeners because the groups are made up of individuals. When I am training announcers, as I also mentioned at NAB, I often tell them to put up a picture of a typical listener... maybe cut out of a picture from a station event... and speak to that person as if they were the only listener. Now you get it? Yep, I got your spin, oh fake one. Go to the NAB website and you can order the full session on CD. It is the September, 2004 San Diego NAB radio convention, and all sessions are available on CD. Before you hurl any more ignorant statements, listen to the panel and you will see that this is exactly what I said. Why would I want to listen to any more of your BS? I get enough of it here already. dxAce Michigan USA |
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Pete KE9OA wrote: Neither WBBM, WTMJ, not WGN seemed to care. First hand experience, since I am one of the people who contacted them, letting them know that they had lost a listener. They don't care. They are too busy putting on appearances, being "with it". That explains part of it then, 'Eduardo' is just trying to be 'hip'. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Go to the NAB website and you can order the full session on CD. It is the September, 2004 San Diego NAB radio convention, and all sessions are available on CD. Before you hurl any more ignorant statements, listen to the panel and you will see that this is exactly what I said. Why would I want to listen to any more of your BS? I get enough of it here already. In other words, the truth would make you have to retract your silly statements, so you will have no part of it. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Go to the NAB website and you can order the full session on CD. It is the September, 2004 San Diego NAB radio convention, and all sessions are available on CD. Before you hurl any more ignorant statements, listen to the panel and you will see that this is exactly what I said. Why would I want to listen to any more of your BS? I get enough of it here already. In other words, the truth would make you have to retract your silly statements, so you will have no part of it. No, I get enough of your BS here already. Pay attention, dip****. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message .com... In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: Snip There is no excuse for the junk that IBOC puts out on the sidebands. It is a poor excuse of a system. On my current job, we are designing the next generation of VHF/UHF land mobile equipment. One of the measurements I make are ACCP (adjacent channel couple power). It has to be well below a level that could interfere with adjacent channel users. Apparently, either the IBOC folks never heard of a vector signal analyzer, don't know how to use it, or they just didn't care when they launched their inferior system. It is a bad way to go to trash the existing broadcast system in order to introduce another new system. They should have used another band or segregated the existing band. I don't think much of the IBOC in any event. If you are going to trash all the existing radios out there in the world I would want a better payoff in new technology than what IBOC represents. Existing radios are 100% compatible, on both FM and AM. The way AM and FM are listened to today, there is no loss by adding HD as an alternative to analog. Sorry David, IBOC is compatible, but not 100%, as the analog sidebands are limited and adjacent channels have interference by the digital sidebands. Some people including myself do not agree that the existing level of compatibility is acceptable. If it was 100% nobody would be complaining about it. You have well explained the radio station/marketing perspective on this but that does not change the listening experience, which has limitations placed on it by IBOC over the existing long time analog transmission scheme. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Steve wrote: The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Digital=Death Don't worry, Edweenie will be around shortly to amuse us with even more astounding BS about HD/IBOC. |
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"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Steve wrote: The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Digital=Death Don't worry, Edweenie will be around shortly to amuse us with even more astounding BS about HD/IBOC. We should have an indication today from the FCC about approving HD at night. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Steve wrote: The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Digital=Death Don't worry, Edweenie will be around shortly to amuse us with even more astounding BS about HD/IBOC. We should have an indication today from the FCC about approving HD at night. Yes indeed, oh fake one. And if they do, I hope it rains **** on you and yours every single day and night for the rest of your fake Hispanic lives. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. I will bet that you've never pulled your head out of your ass long enough to discover that HD/IBOC = QRM We don't care. It is interference to signals that are not being used, vs. an opportunity to keep free terrestrial radio viable. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill and prancer boy for Univision/iBiquity took it up the ass just before he wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. I will bet that you've never pulled your head out of your ass long enough to discover that HD/IBOC = QRM We don't care. We know you don't. You've proven that time after time, 'tard boy. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill and prancer boy for Univision/iBiquity took it up the ass just before he wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. I will bet that you've never pulled your head out of your ass long enough to discover that HD/IBOC = QRM We don't care. We know you don't. You've proven that time after time, 'tard boy. We care about the only listeners we truly have... local, in the local market area. |
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"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one will be attracted to it under any circumstances if its chief selling point is that it's "almost as good as the alternatives" FM HD is better than any other current distribution system, plus it is free. AM HD is as good as any alternative system, and is free. It is much better than Analog AM. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill and prancer boy for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill and prancer boy for Univision/iBiquity took it up the ass just before he wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. I will bet that you've never pulled your head out of your ass long enough to discover that HD/IBOC = QRM We don't care. We know you don't. You've proven that time after time, 'tard boy. We care about the only listeners we truly have... local, in the local market area. Translation: You only care about what you're getting paid to do. |
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Steve wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one will be attracted to it under any circumstances if its chief selling point is that it's "almost as good as the alternatives" One has to admit that Edweenie has a pretty good gig going he Actually getting paid to post on UseNet. |
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Michael Lawson wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message om... "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one has yet given me an argument why I should replace the radios in my house with new radios to cover the exact same bands that I have now. While the receiver I have covers AM/FM bands, I rarely listen on it. Why? Not because of poor fidelity, but rather because I listen to radio I'm actively doing something: working, gardening, mowing the lawn, eating, washing dishes, driving, etc. When I turn on the receiver, it's because I'm going to watch a movie or something on the television that I want to hear in surround sound. Casual listening is the greatest benefit of radio, not the serious listening that HD AM/FM assumes. Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that HD/IBOC assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions hope to make by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need. As always, follow the $$$ dxAce Michigan USA |
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"Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message om... "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one has yet given me an argument why I should replace the radios in my house with new radios to cover the exact same bands that I have now. You don't have to. All existing radios are backwards compatible. While the receiver I have covers AM/FM bands, I rarely listen on it. Why? Not because of poor fidelity, but rather because I listen to radio I'm actively doing something: working, gardening, mowing the lawn, eating, washing dishes, driving, etc. When I turn on the receiver, it's because I'm going to watch a movie or something on the television that I want to hear in surround sound. Casual listening is the greatest benefit of radio, not the serious listening that HD AM/FM assumes. The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such thing as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other things, like working, driving, etc. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that HD/IBOC assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions hope to make by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need. Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD. In fact, it costs us in new equipment and the iBiquity license we have to pay for from now on. What we get is the additional channel(s) on FM for additional formats, improved AM and FM quality and an opportunity to prolong the life of free, terrestrial radio. |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message om... "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one has yet given me an argument why I should replace the radios in my house with new radios to cover the exact same bands that I have now. While the receiver I have covers AM/FM bands, I rarely listen on it. Why? Not because of poor fidelity, but rather because I listen to radio I'm actively doing something: working, gardening, mowing the lawn, eating, washing dishes, driving, etc. When I turn on the receiver, it's because I'm going to watch a movie or something on the television that I want to hear in surround sound. Casual listening is the greatest benefit of radio, not the serious listening that HD AM/FM assumes. --Mike L. |
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David Eduardo, otherwise known as David Frackelton Gleason, spawn of the Cuyahoga wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that HD/IBOC assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions hope to make by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need. Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD. In fact, it costs us in new equipment and the iBiquity license we have to pay for from now on. No money? Univision owns part of iBiquity, does it not? So therefore Univision will be a beneficiary of those licensing fees and by extension, you, Edweenie, will also be a beneficiary! Shill on, boy... shill on! |
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' well known fake Hispanic since c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that HD/IBOC assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions hope to make by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need. Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD. If you're not going to make any money from HD then why the hell do you spend a good part of your day shilling for it? I'm LMFAO at the fraudulent 'tard boy. You're a ****ing joke, Edweenie! |
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David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one will be attracted to it under any circumstances if its chief selling point is that it's "almost as good as the alternatives" FM HD is better than any other current distribution system, plus it is free. AM HD is as good as any alternative system, and is free. It is much better than Analog AM. "as good as" isn't what you've said previously, but it's also not good enough to cut the mustard. |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message .com... "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message . .. Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though. What will happen to AM if it can't be saved? It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease. What will the death of AM be like? Will we someday turn on our AM radios and hear nothing but noise and static, much as the surviviors did in any one of Roger Corman's post apocoplyse movies? Many talk formats are moving to FM. One in Tallahassee did it this week. Others in DC, Salt Lake City and Phoenix have or are doing it. What we will find is a gradual change to pure niche formats (Like KIRN in LA... all Farsi) and then, probably, its demise as the less competitive signals go silent. This is the death of AM Radio? HALLELUJAH!! THERE IS THE PROMISE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH!!! No nighttime IBOC and fewer interfering signals? Might I somenight be able to DX the Farsi station from LA? It seems so unlikely, but... IN AM RADIO, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!!! Thank you for your prophetic vision of the death of AM radio. Thank you. SAY AMEN, EVERYBODY!!! Frank Dresser |
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David Eduardo wrote: "Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message om... "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one will pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM. Pay? there is no fee. Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved quality. I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently, especially with codec ver. 2.2.5. No one has yet given me an argument why I should replace the radios in my house with new radios to cover the exact same bands that I have now. You don't have to. All existing radios are backwards compatible. While the receiver I have covers AM/FM bands, I rarely listen on it. Why? Not because of poor fidelity, but rather because I listen to radio I'm actively doing something: working, gardening, mowing the lawn, eating, washing dishes, driving, etc. When I turn on the receiver, it's because I'm going to watch a movie or something on the television that I want to hear in surround sound. Casual listening is the greatest benefit of radio, not the serious listening that HD AM/FM assumes. The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such thing as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other things, like working, driving, etc. The people who listen to AM don't put a lot of priority on audio quality. People who do put a big priority on audio quality listen to FM. You'll never lure any portion of the FM audience back to AM. |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:09:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote: The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such thing as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other things, like working, driving, etc. Aside from being quieter, it really doesn't sound any better. |
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Frank Dresser wrote: This is the death of AM Radio? HALLELUJAH!! THERE IS THE PROMISE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH!!! No nighttime IBOC and fewer interfering signals? Might I somenight be able to DX the Farsi station from LA? It seems so unlikely, but... IN AM RADIO, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!!! Thank you for your prophetic vision of the death of AM radio. Thank you. SAY AMEN, EVERYBODY!!! Frank Dresser Here here. If AM is as slow about dying as shortwave, people will be enjoying it far into the future. |
lazy ace
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David ****elton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', the totally whacked boy from Cleveland wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that HD/IBOC assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions hope to make by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need. Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD. In fact, it costs us in new equipment and the iBiquity license we have to pay for from now on. What we get is the additional channel(s) on FM for additional formats, improved AM and FM quality and an opportunity to prolong the life of free, terrestrial radio. Interesting marketing concept! Declare that something is dying and then offer up a fix. Free terrestrial radio is not dying. It is in, in marketing terms, maturation and decline. Very old technology (90 years for AM, 60 years for FM, 45 years for FM stereo) and is slowly losing users. While the impact is not drastic for FM, yet, it is for AM, with essentially very few listeners under age 45 and an average listener age that goes up every year. Almost seem to be a protection racket of sorts. No, it is a product enhancement to make it useful into the future. As always, follow the $$$ HD costs money to radio stations, and any payback is more like insurance, not a profit center. |
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