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dxAce July 10th 06 01:11 PM

This Really Sucks
 

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


[email protected] July 10th 06 01:47 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


David July 10th 06 02:00 PM

This Really Sucks
 
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:11:04 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Dwardo!


[email protected] July 10th 06 02:28 PM

This Really Sucks
 
wrote:
dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


When the IBOC sidebands extend out into the signal you want to hear,
not really possible to "filter" without getting rid of the signal you
want.

Listening to the sideband with the least interference (e.g. the one
away from the IBOC station) helps some.

Some use of directional antennas (especially ones with deep nulls, e.g.
loops) has been succesful at my QTH.

Tim.


Doug Smith W9WI July 10th 06 03:59 PM

This Really Sucks
 
dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)


I should note similar strong rumors from allegedly reliable sources flew
around the time of the NAB Convention in April - and nothing happened.

I'm sure nighttime IBOC *will* be authorized eventually, but I'll
believe it when I see (hear) it!

(the fact that approval has taken this long leads me to believe there's
a major tug-of-war going on at the FCC, that there are large parts of
the staff that believe it's a REALLY bad idea. I don't *think* anyone
on the Engineering staff will quit over this approval but I won't be
stunned if it happens.)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


Doug Smith W9WI July 10th 06 04:05 PM

This Really Sucks
 
wrote:
- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


Buy a HD radio.

Seriously.

The Boston Acoustics Receptor HD, when tuning *analog* stations, seems
largely immune to IBOC QRM from *digital* stations on adjacent
frequencies. The set uses digital signal processing of analog signals;
I might guess that it uses the opposite digital sideband to cancel out
the one that's interfering with the desired analog station.

In general, my experience has been that the Receptor HD is a pretty
decent analog radio, both AM and FM, if you give it a decent antenna.
(the antennas provided with the radio are crap) Of course, it is pretty
expensive as well!

Of course, the problem for the radio industry is that almost nobody
*has* a Receptor HD - when the interference cranks up, people will buy
XM or Sirius, put in a CD, or turn on the TV long before they'll buy a
HD radio.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


dxAce July 10th 06 04:17 PM

This Really Sucks
 


wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


No, because it apparently affects both sidebands pretty equaly. If one wants to
listen to a weaker adjacent channel from that running IBOC one is going to be in a
world of hurt.

I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] July 10th 06 04:30 PM

lazy ace
 

dxAce wrote:
wrote:


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?

but no you run into a set back and throw up your hands

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 10th 06 04:35 PM

lazy ace
 


" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?


Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.

Now go back in your hole.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 04:49 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.


dxAce July 10th 06 04:54 PM

This Really Sucks
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.


As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 04:56 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.


As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


dxAce July 10th 06 04:59 PM

This Really Sucks
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.


As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!


Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 05:02 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!


Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You really are a hostile little boy.


dxAce July 10th 06 05:08 PM

This Really Sucks
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?


And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You really are a hostile little boy.


And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 05:14 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?

And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You really are a hostile little boy.


And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.


Why don't you focus all that hate/hostility into finding yourself a new
hobby, since SWL and AM DXing are dying !


dxAce July 10th 06 05:17 PM

This Really Sucks
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?

And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You really are a hostile little boy.


And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.


Why don't you focus all that hate/hostility into finding yourself a new
hobby, since SWL and AM DXing are dying !


Why don't you focus on taking your meds and trying to get well?



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 05:21 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?

And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You really are a hostile little boy.

And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.


Why don't you focus all that hate/hostility into finding yourself a new
hobby, since SWL and AM DXing are dying !


Why don't you focus on taking your meds and trying to get well?


You are a ****ing waste of time !


dxAce July 10th 06 05:24 PM

This Really Sucks
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?

And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You really are a hostile little boy.

And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.

Why don't you focus all that hate/hostility into finding yourself a new
hobby, since SWL and AM DXing are dying !


Why don't you focus on taking your meds and trying to get well?


You are a ****ing waste of time !


Well, you certainly are!



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 05:30 PM

This Really Sucks
 

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens. I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio. I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital. Honestly, does iBiquity think they are going
to be able to obsolete the estimated 800 million analog AM/FM radios in
the US. As posted before, stations have turned off IBOC, because of
adjacent-channel interference to their neighbors.

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!

Are you ever going to cut the bull**** ?

And what bull**** might that be, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You really are a hostile little boy.

And you really are a clueless 'tard boy.

Why don't you focus all that hate/hostility into finding yourself a new
hobby, since SWL and AM DXing are dying !

Why don't you focus on taking your meds and trying to get well?


You are a ****ing waste of time !


Well, you certainly are!


Is that the best response you have, rumor monger ?


[email protected] July 10th 06 05:38 PM

lazy ace
 

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.

justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?


Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.

sure does

it all about challange

you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if
they survive you greedy lazy jerk

Now go back in your hole.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 10th 06 05:45 PM

lazy ace
 


" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.
justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?


Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.

sure does

it all about challange

you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if
they survive you greedy lazy jerk


Careling? Isn't that something folks tend to do around Christmas time?

Greedy? Well, yes, I suppose. I'm for getting all I can.

I'm not lazy, I'm retired.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



IBOC_sucks_! July 10th 06 05:55 PM

lazy ace
 

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.
justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?

Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.

sure does

it all about challange

you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if
they survive you greedy lazy jerk


Careling? Isn't that something folks tend to do around Christmas time?

Greedy? Well, yes, I suppose. I'm for getting all I can.

I'm not lazy, I'm retired.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You obvioulsy have little to do, but troll this newsgroup with your
flames and hostility, because you know that DRM will obsolete your
analog SW receivers. Acting like this, at your age - geeze !


David Eduardo July 10th 06 06:00 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote in message
ups.com...

dxAce wrote:
** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!

HD/IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


There will probably be a flood of formal objections, if not lawsuits,
to the FCC from stations being interfered with IBOC; the FCC has a
formal complaint process in place, that if it becomes necessary, the
station causing the interference can be forced to shut down the IBOC
transmission. Instead of posting rumors, wait and see, if this really
happens.


Since skywave is so seldome used, this is all unlikely. What has been
suggested is a lowe HD injection at night, like -24 to -28 db from the
analog, instead of -20 db.

I have checked most of the electronic stores on-line(Circuit
City, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc.), and most of them only carry one HD
radio.


That is because the new receiver design specs were only issued a few months
ago, and the word at CES is that the receivers will be coming in increasing
alternatives and lower prices after the Summer.

I can't imagine there will be any public demand/interest in
IBOC, considering satellite radio, so stations will find out real
quickly, when they have lost 99% of their listener base, if IBOC ever
goes completely digital.


There is no plan to go 100% digital and kill the analog.



David Eduardo July 10th 06 06:00 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!


What radio stations does Glenn manage?



David Eduardo July 10th 06 06:02 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



dxAce July 10th 06 06:02 PM

lazy ace
 


"IBOC_sucks_!" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
wrote:

I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.
justs makes your hobby more chalenging why do you mind that?

Challenging? Has nothing to do with challenging, 'tard boy.
sure does

it all about challange

you want these stations to just you what YOU want without careling if
they survive you greedy lazy jerk


Careling? Isn't that something folks tend to do around Christmas time?

Greedy? Well, yes, I suppose. I'm for getting all I can.

I'm not lazy, I'm retired.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You obvioulsy have little to do, but troll this newsgroup with your
flames and hostility, because you know that DRM will obsolete your
analog SW receivers.


Gee, I've heard talk like that since I first was introduced to shortwave radio in the mid 60's.

Acting like this, at your age - geeze !


My age? Heck, I'm still fairly young, not even 55 yet.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo July 10th 06 06:03 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.



dxAce July 10th 06 06:05 PM

This Really Sucks
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

As far as rumours go, I trust Glenn Hauser's judgement.

Far more than I trust yours!


What radio stations does Glenn manage?


Oh ****, I woke up Edweenie, the fake Hispanic, and paid shill for
Univision/Ibiquity.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 10th 06 06:07 PM

This Really Sucks
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Yeah, saving AM through QRM.

Great plan there, Edweenie!

I love it when you use the *WE* shtick. It sounds so, well it sounds so
egotistical!



dxAce July 10th 06 06:08 PM

This Really Sucks
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.


Yep, you know everything, oh fake one!



David July 10th 06 06:16 PM

This Really Sucks
 
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:33 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.

You are an idiot. I don't know a real broadcaster on the planet who
reacts with indifference when told his signal is getting trashed and
that he has lost a listener.



Frank Dresser July 10th 06 06:34 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
wrote:
- Agree.. ANY way of filtering this out ?


Buy a HD radio.

Seriously.

The Boston Acoustics Receptor HD, when tuning *analog* stations, seems
largely immune to IBOC QRM from *digital* stations on adjacent
frequencies. The set uses digital signal processing of analog signals;
I might guess that it uses the opposite digital sideband to cancel out
the one that's interfering with the desired analog station.

In general, my experience has been that the Receptor HD is a pretty
decent analog radio, both AM and FM, if you give it a decent antenna.
(the antennas provided with the radio are crap) Of course, it is pretty
expensive as well!

Of course, the problem for the radio industry is that almost nobody
*has* a Receptor HD - when the interference cranks up, people will buy
XM or Sirius, put in a CD, or turn on the TV long before they'll buy a
HD radio.



I doubt many people will buy IBOC radios for the presumed audio advantages.
The market for high fidelity AM has always been small and FM can sound
excellent as it is. However, there probably will be some public interest in
the secondary FM channels. And ibiquity's licensing arrangement demands
that any AM - FM radio must have IBOC decoders for both bands. There won't
be any standard AM - IBOC FM radios, at least according to the current plan.

So, in the future, there's a good chance there will be a significant number
of IBOC radios out there. I pretty much expect the AM broadcasters to
enthusisastically jump into IBOC AM, just like as jumped into AM stereo.

AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy the
radios. AM stereo came and went.

It would be ironic if the only way to avoid the IBOC sidebands is to buy
some damned ibiquity licensed radio.

Frank Dresser








Frank Dresser July 10th 06 06:41 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?

Frank Dresser



dxAce July 10th 06 06:46 PM

This Really Sucks
 


Frank Dresser wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?


Edweenie and his minions think it will just go *poof*, it's gone.

Edweenie is mistaken.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo July 10th 06 07:40 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

** U S A. Strong rumor from allegedly reliable sources is that the FCC
will be
making an across-the-board authorization for nighttime IBOC on MW
within
the
next two weeks. Better enjoy your nighttime MW listening and DXing
while
you
can. More and more ``clear`` channel stations have been testing it in
the
daytime, and once they all start running it at night, large portions of
the AM
band will be devoted to noise (Glenn Hauser, July 9, DX LISTENING
DIGEST)

Thanks to 'Eduardo' and all the other beancounting dip****s out there!


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.


Yeah, saving AM through QRM.

Great plan there, Edweenie!

I love it when you use the *WE* shtick. It sounds so, well it sounds so
egotistical!


iBiquity is backed by every major broadcast company, right down to companies
like UnoRadio Group in Puerto Rico. That is the "we" I refer to... the
broadcast industry and its leaders.



David Eduardo July 10th 06 07:40 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.


Yep, you know everything, oh fake one!


Your closes 790 would the Bay City / Saginaw, and I guarantee you that they
have no interest in the Grand Rapids market.



David Eduardo July 10th 06 07:41 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:33 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I currently have that problem here with a station I used to listen to
regularly on
790 that is now totally obliterated by the daytime IBOC from 780.

No can listen no more.


I know the station itself could care less.

You are an idiot. I don't know a real broadcaster on the planet who
reacts with indifference when told his signal is getting trashed and
that he has lost a listener.


If they are out of the metro (MSA), we don't care. There is no money in out
of market audience.



David Eduardo July 10th 06 07:43 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


AM stereo never caught on. The buying public never much cared to buy the
radios. AM stereo came and went.


It was, due to Leonard Kahn, 5 years too late. When original introduced, it
would have made a difference as AM still had a majority of listening. By the
time a system was authorized, AM had "died" as a music medium.



David Eduardo July 10th 06 07:43 PM

This Really Sucks
 

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..


Yep. We are going to try to save AM. It may not be possible, though.



What will happen to AM if it can't be saved?


It will slowly die as the existing listeners age and ad revenues decrease.




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