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They are often overlooked and ignored - even scoffed at by some in these
"modern times" of cell phones, etc. ---
but then along comes mother nature - to remind one and all who's boss -
and guess who the heroes are?

http://www.kptv.com/weatheralert/14776224/detail.html

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Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:


but then along comes mother nature - to remind one and all who's boss -
and guess who the heroes are?


Not roast beef on rye? :-)

http://www.kptv.com/weatheralert/14776224/detail.html

Kudos to all involved!


But hams need antennas to make it happen. And we need news stories like
these to show to home owner association and towns as to why we should be
allowed to have antennas.
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On Dec 6, 3:12 pm, robert casey wrote:
Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:

but then along comes mother nature - to remind one and all who's boss -
and guess who the heroes are?


Not roast beef on rye? :-)



http://www.kptv.com/weatheralert/14776224/detail.html


Kudos to all involved!


But hams need antennas to make it happen. And we need news stories like
these to show to home owner association and towns as to why we should be
allowed to have antennas.


I sit as chair on our Township Board of Historical and Architectural
Review. We make deliberate and specific exceptions for Ham antenna vs.
satellite dishes and similar. So, your hopes are not altogether in
vain. All we ask is that the antenna be installed with as little
impact on the significant structure as possible. Not "NO" impact, not
"Invisible", just minimum practical impact. In my years on the board,
it has come up twice - in both cases, the exception was granted and
then further granted by Zoning and Planning (height and setback
restrictions). The two are still up today.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:


but then along comes mother nature - to remind one and all who's boss -
and guess who the heroes are?


Not roast beef on rye? :-)

http://www.kptv.com/weatheralert/14776224/detail.html

Kudos to all involved!


But hams need antennas to make it happen. And we need news stories like
these to show to home owner association and towns as to why we should be
allowed to have antennas.


Indeed tis true but isn't it ironic that nearly everyone had antennas on the
roof top for TV and FM back 30+ years ago! No one complained.

And today in Silicon Valley ($800,000+ homes), many homes still have
antennas up on the roof even though they are on cable or dish TV. No one
complains, and few HOA's.

Lamont Lamenting

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"The Shadow" wrote in message
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:


but then along comes mother nature - to remind one and all who's boss -
and guess who the heroes are?


Not roast beef on rye? :-)

http://www.kptv.com/weatheralert/14776224/detail.html

Kudos to all involved!


But hams need antennas to make it happen. And we need news stories like
these to show to home owner association and towns as to why we should be
allowed to have antennas.


Indeed tis true but isn't it ironic that nearly everyone had antennas on
the roof top for TV and FM back 30+ years ago! No one complained.

And today in Silicon Valley ($800,000+ homes), many homes still have
antennas up on the roof even though they are on cable or dish TV. No one
complains, and few HOA's.

Lamont Lamenting


You're right - NO ONE complained of antennas before - why now?

I am on council here - and an issue came up regarding Antennas and towers.
Being a "ham" myself - was able to thwart any issues there. When "Zoning"
came in - I questioned "their" rules on Towers and Antennas. Theirs are
limited to "Commercial" towers - with regard to fencing, posting of signage,
etc.

Some people in some areas are just too damned particular.

Lou




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radiosrfun wrote:

You're right - NO ONE complained of antennas before - why now?

I am on council here - and an issue came up regarding Antennas and towers.
Being a "ham" myself - was able to thwart any issues there. When "Zoning"
came in - I questioned "their" rules on Towers and Antennas. Theirs are
limited to "Commercial" towers - with regard to fencing, posting of signage,
etc.

Some people in some areas are just too damned particular.

Lou


By Federal law, TV and radio receiving antennas, dishes, and so forth,
for household (non-commercial) use, are exempt from local restrictions
(including any and all HOA covenants). I don't know if this exemption
extends to ham radio antennas or not, but I would think that a pretty
good case could be made.

Bill
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Bill Jeffrey wrote:

By Federal law, TV and radio receiving antennas, dishes, and so forth,
for household (non-commercial) use, are exempt from local restrictions
(including any and all HOA covenants). I don't know if this exemption
extends to ham radio antennas or not, but I would think that a pretty
good case could be made.

Bill


I'd sure like to see some references on that one!

I have lived in several communities that specifically forbade outside
antennas of any kind.... including TV.

For instance whenever I have lived in a townhouse, I owned the inside
of the house up to the common walls, but the community owned everything
outside of the house. It would be hard to imagine how I would be
allowed, by Federal exemption, to deface someone else's property so that
I may put up an antenna.

-Chuck
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The local NPR station (KUOW) ran a story this morning about how ham radio
operators provided the only means of communication in the hardest-hit areas
of western Washington.

Landline phones were dead, cell phones were dead, and even the police &
emergency network was dead except for something like handheld two-way
radios. Hams relayed messages up and down the coast about places to shelter,
availability of supplies, medical emergencies, and so on.

They interviewed a law enforcement guy who happens to be a ham.

In this age of the Internet, ham radio might seem like a quaint throwback to
old times, practiced by a shrinking crew of oddballs.

It's reassuring to know that ham radio is alive and well, and still
performing its public service function as a last-resort network in
emergencies.

Regards,

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

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