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What's an iPod?

Barry wrote in
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What's an iPod?

My youngest son once asked me, "Dad, why was the world black and white when
you were a kid? (referring to old family photos.)

One of those priceless gems that makes you smile years later.

elaich wrote:
Barry wrote in
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What's an iPod?

My youngest son once asked me, "Dad, why was the world black and white when
you were a kid? (referring to old family photos.)

One of those priceless gems that makes you smile years later.

Your youngest son needs remedial ed.

I am sleepy, fixin to cut the light and git my beauty sleep.Move over
doggy,,, you wand a cookie?
WOO WOO WOOF!
cuhulin

On Jul 1, 3:57*pm, Barry wrote:
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What's an iPod?

I read the article also. Most people look at the cassette as
equivalent withthe 8-track tape. But I bet these same people would
be shocked to find out that some of the better cassette decks had way
better specs than a Ipod. I have seen some of the Naks with freq.
response to 27 khz and my Denon, which was a mid-level deck, has freq.
response to 23 or 24 which I know is more than you can squeeze from
digital at even the highest bit rate. I'm just sayin'..........

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On Jul 1, 3:57*pm, Barry wrote:
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What's an iPod?

I read the article also. Most people look at the cassette as
equivalent withthe 8-track tape. But I bet these same people would
be shocked to find out that some of the better cassette decks had way
better specs than a Ipod. I have seen some of the Naks with freq.
response to 27 khz and my Denon, which was a mid-level deck, has freq.
response to 23 or 24 which I know is more than you can squeeze from
digital at even the highest bit rate. I'm just sayin'..........


I sold hifi stuff from about 72 until 79 or so, and the midrange decks
that I bought very cheaply from Panasonic/Teac/Akai/Sony/Onkyo would all
do at least 17K absolutely minimum, and many would go over 20 or even
22K. Most of them could record an LP well enough that it was very
difficult to tell the difference between the copy and the original. Some
actually had a slight bass boost, kind of a bonus back then, as records
had the bass cut most of the time.

I paid less than $200 for almost any of those decks, and if they were on
closeout, it was closer to $100. I still have a Technics deck I bought
in 1979 for a whopping $119+ shipping, and it works perfectly. I
recently bought another Technics deck, the same model as the first one I
bought at 14 years old. I got it from a guy on Ebay, and it looks and
sounds like it just came out of the box. Mine lasted over 27 years
before the take up reel motor died. I tried and tried to find one, and
finally scrapped it, only to find a perfectly working, but cosmetically
challenged one at Goodwill a couple months later. The one I have now is
slightly different, as it turned out there were four slightly different
versions of the same model. Panasonic/Technics did a lot of that with
cassette decks for some reason. A friend of mine's brother has the same
deck, with slightly different fonts on the labels, and the Technics logo
is smaller, too. My original one had sliding level pots, it's the only
one I've seen like it, except in pics, but every other one I have seen
in person has regular rotary pots for the level. The panel layout shows
that the sliders were the original design as there is a lot of wasted
room all around them.

I never could take 8-track sound for very long, the wow drove me up the
wall. Not to mention the track changing in the middle of songs.
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BDK..
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Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

LukeP wrote:
On Jul 1, 3:57 pm, Barry wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/01/BU2618GKE...

What's an iPod?

I read the article also. Most people look at the cassette as
equivalent withthe 8-track tape. But I bet these same people would
be shocked to find out that some of the better cassette decks had way
better specs than a Ipod. I have seen some of the Naks with freq.
response to 27 khz and my Denon, which was a mid-level deck, has freq.
response to 23 or 24 which I know is more than you can squeeze from
digital at even the highest bit rate. I'm just sayin'..........

Sad. You can't hear much above 10 K; why do you care about 24?

You can buy a credible MP3 player for $20 that'll run circles around
your POS Nakamichi.

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LukeP wrote:
On Jul 1, 3:57 pm, Barry wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/01/BU2618GKE...

What's an iPod?

I read the article also. Most people look at the cassette as
equivalent withthe 8-track tape. But I bet these same people would
be shocked to find out that some of the better cassette decks had way
better specs than a Ipod. I have seen some of the Naks with freq.
response to 27 khz and my Denon, which was a mid-level deck, has freq.
response to 23 or 24 which I know is more than you can squeeze from
digital at even the highest bit rate. I'm just sayin'..........

Sad. You can't hear much above 10 K; why do you care about 24?

Speak for yourself. I can still hear over 20K with my right, and over
17K with my left.

You can buy a credible MP3 player for $20 that'll run circles around
your POS Nakamichi.

Except the Nak sounds way, way better. Even high bitrate MP3's sound
pretty bad, if you can still hear. They do sound a lot better than
satellite radio though.

--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

On Jul 2, 7:44*am, dave wrote:


Sad. *You can't hear much above 10 K; *why do you care about 24?

You can buy a credible MP3 player for $20 that'll run circles around
your POS Nakamichi.

LOL! LMFAO! HEIL HITLER Professor DaviD! ROTFLMAO!

"dave" wrote in message
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Sad. You can't hear much above 10 K; why do you care about 24?

You can buy a credible MP3 player for $20 that'll run circles around your
POS Nakamichi.

1) One cares about whether one can get 24KHz reproduction out of a tape
machine (or any other reproducer) beause the flat response curve at the high
end actually affects the sound at lower frequencies (the characteristics of
musical instruments are that many carry large numbers of harmonics, which,
even if you cannot hear the harmonic itself, would change the intrinsic
sound were they not there at all)

2) There is NO mp3 player that can as accurately reproduce a complex audio
waveform as well as a high end cassette machine. I don't care how many
samples you take of a complex waveform with an ADC/DAC system, the resultant
playback waveform will never represent the original analog waveform as well
as a high end analog device. Even a simple 1000 Hz sine wave will not come
out as a pure sine wave after digital conversion, it will be a series of
stepped square waves. You may not be able to tell the difference with your
ear, as long as there are enough of those little steps, but that's not the
point. The point is, it will not "run circles around" a high end analog
device.