Going to Netherlands, France, Italy, Germany in early summer. Anyone with
recent travel experience? I wld take a portable SW like an ATS606 and wld
like to take a pair of FRS radios also. If anyone has had any trouble
taking radios with them by plane I'd like to hear about it. Thanks.

If you want a good, cheap portable, get the Kaito KA1101 or a DE1101. I
reccomend GPRS radios instead of FRS, the range is better and there's
less dropout because it's digital instead of FM.

http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

wrote:


http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

I'm not American and not travelling to or from there, but the list probably
applies anywhere. It isn't so much the travel as I wonder about the
countries in Europe and particularly if FRS is okay there.

In article , uncle arnie wrote:
wrote:


http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

I'm not American and not travelling to or from there, but the list probably
applies anywhere. It isn't so much the travel as I wonder about the
countries in Europe and particularly if FRS is okay there.

No. FRS radios are NOT allowed in Europe, etc. There is a equivalent
446 service here.

Geoff.

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atomicthumbs wrote:

If you want a good, cheap portable, get the Kaito KA1101 or a DE1101. I
reccomend GPRS radios instead of FRS, the range is better and there's
less dropout because it's digital instead of FM.

But I already have FRS and aren't wanting to buy another set of radios.

uncle arnie schrieb:

atomicthumbs wrote:



If you want a good, cheap portable, get the Kaito KA1101 or a DE1101. I
reccomend GPRS radios instead of FRS, the range is better and there's
less dropout because it's digital instead of FM.



But I already have FRS and aren't wanting to buy another set of radios.


Then do yourself a favour and *don't(!)* take the FRS-radios with you.
The FRS-freqs are in use by other services in europe and you will risk
to get in big trouble using the FRS-radios in europe. At least the
radios will be confiscated if you get cought and you will have a look
from inside a police-station for some hours and maybe have to pay a
additional fine....
PMR-radios have a TX-output of 500mW providing a range of about 500-
1000mtrs (1500-3000ft) in urban areas and up to 5 km (3 mls) or even
more from exponated locations.
These PMR-radios are cheap. Cost about 25 -50 EUROs a pair. They mostly
run on 3 or 4 AAA-cells or rechargable Batteries.

Volker Tonn wrote:



uncle arnie schrieb:

atomicthumbs wrote:



If you want a good, cheap portable, get the Kaito KA1101 or a DE1101. I
reccomend GPRS radios instead of FRS, the range is better and there's
less dropout because it's digital instead of FM.



But I already have FRS and aren't wanting to buy another set of radios.


Then do yourself a favour and *don't(!)* take the FRS-radios with you.
The FRS-freqs are in use by other services in europe and you will risk
to get in big trouble using the FRS-radios in europe. At least the
radios will be confiscated if you get cought and you will have a look
from inside a police-station for some hours and maybe have to pay a
additional fine....
PMR-radios have a TX-output of 500mW providing a range of about 500-
1000mtrs (1500-3000ft) in urban areas and up to 5 km (3 mls) or even
more from exponated locations.
These PMR-radios are cheap. Cost about 25 -50 EUROs a pair. They mostly
run on 3 or 4 AAA-cells or rechargable Batteries.

Yes, I have the info now, we have diff frqs in N Amer. I did talk to a guy
who used them between two cars driving through Norway, and I'm guessing
they didn't interfere with anyone so no trouble. We'll check into PMR when
we get there. Cell phone looks prohibitively expensive to take the local
cell phone over (it will work over there). I can roam through Canada and
most of the USA as if local with no additional charges but not over there.

This will allow me to avoid women's clothing stores etc.

uncle arnie schrieb:

[FRS / PMR]

Yes, I have the info now, we have diff frqs in N Amer. I did talk to a guy
who used them between two cars driving through Norway, and I'm guessing
they didn't interfere with anyone so no trouble.

Noi risk - No fun ;-)

We'll check into PMR when we get there.

Good idea, especially when you want to use them other than to talk
between 2 cars whilst driving.

Cell phone looks prohibitively expensive to take the local
cell phone over (it will work over there). I can roam through Canada and
most of the USA as if local with no additional charges but not over there.

Using a lokal prepaid card might do the trick. And in case of emergancy
you can call for help.
Also phoneing on prepaid cards isn't really cheap. Using the same
provider it is about 30 (EURO-)Cent per minute with 60/1. First minute
is allways charged fully.... :-(

This will allow me to avoid women's clothing stores etc.

This will justify any amount of charge :-)))

uncle arnie wrote in
:

If you wish to spend time in Jail, take your FRS radios to Europe,
otherwise, leave them alone and do some research to find the Eurpoean
equivalent (which you probably won't be able to use here, if here is
America).

PMR-446 radios: http://www.two-way-radio.org.uk/frs-and-pmr446-walkie-
talkie-radios.htm


When in Europe, don't even mention that you know any Americans.

Dr. Artaud


"U.S. FRS radios cannot under any circumstances be used in Africa,
Europe, Asia, Mexico, Australia, Canada, or anywhere else. Why? Because
the frequencies the United States FRS uses have no equivalent service on
the same radio frequencies in other countries. The license free radio
services in other countries do not use our FRS frequencies."

http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsed092999.html



Going to Netherlands, France, Italy, Germany in early summer. Anyone
with recent travel experience? I wld take a portable SW like an
ATS606 and wld like to take a pair of FRS radios also. If anyone has
had any trouble taking radios with them by plane I'd like to hear
about it. Thanks.