The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

The regulars might want to reassess responding to the Trolling faction
as it has, in my opinion, suppressed any new responsible people joining
the news group. The number of posts of new people asking where else can
they go for SW radio information and not hearing from them again should
be a clue that the growth in new responsible posters has not increased
but the trolling faction has certainly increased.

Lately the news group has even descended to the pathetic point of
threatening bodily harm over Usenet.

I'm not sure the news group can recover to even the appearance of on
topic discourse as the Trolling faction appears to have reached
critical mass. In other words there is enough Trolling idiots carrying
on amongst themselves that this could be an indefinite state of affairs
in the news group even if all the regular on topic posters were to
ignore them, which they don't.

Statistically the news group has moved from about 1/3 off topic to
about 1/2 and now for the last few weeks about 2/3 of posts are off
topic but that's not all. The usual political ranting has turned more
and more toward disgusting sexual innuendo, racism, threats and really
nasty flaming.

I find it psychologically interesting that people, which otherwise have
an interest in the short wave radio would want the news group to
deteriorate to this level.

I rationally can't expect that NEW people or the thin skinned would
want to post here if the wide majority of posts are flaming,
threatening, foul and off topic. I figure that many of the people
that lurk here for information have also left.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

The regulars might want to reassess responding to the Trolling faction
as it has, in my opinion, suppressed any new responsible people joining
the news group. The number of posts of new people asking where else can
they go for SW radio information and not hearing from them again should
be a clue that the growth in new responsible posters has not increased
but the trolling faction has certainly increased.

Lately the news group has even descended to the pathetic point of
threatening bodily harm over Usenet.

What color is the sky on your world, stupid?

I'm not sure the news group can recover to even the appearance of on
topic discourse as the Trolling faction appears to have reached
critical mass. In other words there is enough Trolling idiots carrying
on amongst themselves that this could be an indefinite state of affairs
in the news group even if all the regular on topic posters were to
ignore them, which they don't.


Then use a killfile and quit whining.

Statistically the news group has moved from about 1/3 off topic to
about 1/2 and now for the last few weeks about 2/3 of posts are off
topic but that's not all. The usual political ranting has turned more
and more toward disgusting sexual innuendo, racism, threats and really
nasty flaming.

I find it psychologically interesting that people, which otherwise have
an interest in the short wave radio would want the news group to
deteriorate to this level.

I rationally can't expect that NEW people or the thin skinned would
want to post here if the wide majority of posts are flaming,
threatening, foul and off topic. I figure that many of the people
that lurk here for information have also left.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

OB Shortwave: It's terrible how SW is going the way of the dinosaur
with stations cutting back or completely eliminating their on-air
broadcasts. Some have moved to the web for the broadcasts, but I miss
the day when you could hear the BBC or many other stations quite
regularly at almost any time of day.

My frequency of visits to this NG is down to a couple of times per week from
daily.

I've been spending the summer nights with the old standbys of RN and BBC-WS,
with Radio Australia in the mornings. We had lots of northern lights last
night and RA wasn't its usual clear signal this a.m. I've never been
completely clear on the relationship. Sometimes it seems to disrupt N-S
signals and leaves E-W untouched. I was picking up home improvement advice
from somewhere east (sounded American) on 570 MW at ~ 1100 UTC , they
started playing music when an ad was expected and the dog wanted out, so
never did pin it down. I've been getting some good MW dx at night,
including KSL Salt Lake City, Vancouver and Seatle, St Louis. I think I
should be able to get Chicago and Minneapolis if I looked for them. I
haven't typically chased MW, but occasionally it's interesting to spin the
dial.

Telamon wrote:

The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

The regulars might want to reassess responding to the Trolling faction
as it has, in my opinion, suppressed any new responsible people joining
the news group. The number of posts of new people asking where else can
they go for SW radio information and not hearing from them again should
be a clue that the growth in new responsible posters has not increased
but the trolling faction has certainly increased.

Lately the news group has even descended to the pathetic point of
threatening bodily harm over Usenet.

I'm not sure the news group can recover to even the appearance of on
topic discourse as the Trolling faction appears to have reached
critical mass. In other words there is enough Trolling idiots carrying
on amongst themselves that this could be an indefinite state of affairs
in the news group even if all the regular on topic posters were to
ignore them, which they don't.

Statistically the news group has moved from about 1/3 off topic to
about 1/2 and now for the last few weeks about 2/3 of posts are off
topic but that's not all. The usual political ranting has turned more
and more toward disgusting sexual innuendo, racism, threats and really
nasty flaming.

I find it psychologically interesting that people, which otherwise have
an interest in the short wave radio would want the news group to
deteriorate to this level.

I rationally can't expect that NEW people or the thin skinned would
want to post here if the wide majority of posts are flaming,
threatening, foul and off topic. I figure that many of the people
that lurk here for information have also left.

Well, it depends on the band along with conditions. Australia and New
Zealand were both weaker than usual on the 15MHz band but New Zealand
was stronger than usual on 11,820. Last night during a G2 event they
were S9+10dB peaking S9+20dB. They are usually S9. I went to bed so I
don't know about Australia later than that but I would expect the same
thing when they changed to 9,580 in the early hours of the morning my
time.


In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:

My frequency of visits to this NG is down to a couple of times per week from
daily.

I've been spending the summer nights with the old standbys of RN and BBC-WS,
with Radio Australia in the mornings. We had lots of northern lights last
night and RA wasn't its usual clear signal this a.m. I've never been
completely clear on the relationship. Sometimes it seems to disrupt N-S
signals and leaves E-W untouched. I was picking up home improvement advice
from somewhere east (sounded American) on 570 MW at ~ 1100 UTC , they
started playing music when an ad was expected and the dog wanted out, so
never did pin it down. I've been getting some good MW dx at night,
including KSL Salt Lake City, Vancouver and Seatle, St Louis. I think I
should be able to get Chicago and Minneapolis if I looked for them. I
haven't typically chased MW, but occasionally it's interesting to spin the
dial.

Telamon wrote:

The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

The regulars might want to reassess responding to the Trolling faction
as it has, in my opinion, suppressed any new responsible people joining
the news group. The number of posts of new people asking where else can
they go for SW radio information and not hearing from them again should
be a clue that the growth in new responsible posters has not increased
but the trolling faction has certainly increased.

Lately the news group has even descended to the pathetic point of
threatening bodily harm over Usenet.

I'm not sure the news group can recover to even the appearance of on
topic discourse as the Trolling faction appears to have reached
critical mass. In other words there is enough Trolling idiots carrying
on amongst themselves that this could be an indefinite state of affairs
in the news group even if all the regular on topic posters were to
ignore them, which they don't.

Statistically the news group has moved from about 1/3 off topic to
about 1/2 and now for the last few weeks about 2/3 of posts are off
topic but that's not all. The usual political ranting has turned more
and more toward disgusting sexual innuendo, racism, threats and really
nasty flaming.

I find it psychologically interesting that people, which otherwise have
an interest in the short wave radio would want the news group to
deteriorate to this level.

I rationally can't expect that NEW people or the thin skinned would
want to post here if the wide majority of posts are flaming,
threatening, foul and off topic. I figure that many of the people
that lurk here for information have also left.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:
Telamon wrote:

The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

My frequency of visits to this NG is down to a couple of times per week from
daily.

I've been spending the summer nights with the old standbys of RN and BBC-WS,
with Radio Australia in the mornings. We had lots of northern lights last
night and RA wasn't its usual clear signal this a.m. I've never been
completely clear on the relationship. Sometimes it seems to disrupt N-S
signals and leaves E-W untouched.

For RA, it seems that the worst signal comes when it's local midnight
at the transmitter. 6020 and 5995 are coming in better here (Seattle),
lately, than 9580/9590. (But the Catholic station in the Philippines
still stomps on 6020 from 12:30-14:00). 5995 was 20 over s9 at 14:00,
declining down to only tolerable at 16:00.


Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
The signal to noise level has been very high the past few weeks but
hopefully it will settle down now that we are almost in the back to
school season.

The regulars might want to reassess responding to the Trolling
faction
as it has, in my opinion, suppressed any new responsible people
joining
the news group. The number of posts of new people asking where else
can
they go for SW radio information and not hearing from them again
should
be a clue that the growth in new responsible posters has not
increased
but the trolling faction has certainly increased.

Lately the news group has even descended to the pathetic point of
threatening bodily harm over Usenet.

I'm not sure the news group can recover to even the appearance of on
topic discourse as the Trolling faction appears to have reached
critical mass. In other words there is enough Trolling idiots
carrying
on amongst themselves that this could be an indefinite state of
affairs
in the news group even if all the regular on topic posters were to
ignore them, which they don't.

Statistically the news group has moved from about 1/3 off topic to
about 1/2 and now for the last few weeks about 2/3 of posts are off
topic but that's not all. The usual political ranting has turned
more
and more toward disgusting sexual innuendo, racism, threats and
really
nasty flaming.

I find it psychologically interesting that people, which otherwise
have
an interest in the short wave radio would want the news group to
deteriorate to this level.

I rationally can't expect that NEW people or the thin skinned would
want to post here if the wide majority of posts are flaming,
threatening, foul and off topic. I figure that many of the people
that lurk here for information have also left.

I'm sure that things'll slow down a bit a month or so
after Katrina. People will probably get tired of the
same old arguments, and move on to other off topic
postings.

--Mike L.