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If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:44:50 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
spake thusly: "Appliance Operator" is a term to distinguish from those who are able not only to turn on and operate their equipment, but also understand how it functions and can reproduce the circuitry therein. An appliance operator knows little or nothing about how the equipment they use works, only how to use it (not necessarily in a proper or legal manner). Does this mean that only a fully qualified journeyman auto technician really knows how to drive a car properly? Does an executive chef at a 5 star restaurant need to know Ohms Law in order to cook properly on an electric stovetop? Does he also need to be a petro-chemist to operate a gas range? The notion that only a person who knows the inner workings of a device can operate it properly is downright insulting and worthy of utter contempt. Can you rebuild the transmission in your car in your back yard right now? If not then you are a bad driver, according to the "appliance operator" logic being spewed here. -- (Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94) "What, Me Worry?" A. E. Newman Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim. |
If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... And you are stuck on Lazy-ass appliance operator thinking. Why don't you head on over to rec.radio.cb, they need help using their appliances and you'll fit right in. ALL radio operators are "appliance operators" as you so idiotically put it. A radio is a radio, no matter who turns the switch on. Does the range in your kitchen stop being a range if Martha Stewart operates it? "Appliance Operator" is a term to distinguish from those who are able not only to turn on and operate their equipment, but also understand how it functions and can reproduce the circuitry therein. An appliance operator knows little or nothing about how the equipment they use works, only how to use it (not necessarily in a proper or legal manner). / Would this include a KB9 station from Michigan? |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA, half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.). SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra in-between-scheduled-times reports. One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG SHE GOES OUT." :-) The ground school class at VNY was presented with a glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class. In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48 contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands. NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports. Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent by TTY. That was in times before NOAA. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 PADK? |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote: Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA, half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.). SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra in-between-scheduled-times reports. KSBD = Norton AFB They had RC-135's, wx recon. Continuous Weather Watch would post an hourly observation, and intermediate observations as various parameters crossed their thresholds, usually an ALSTG local when conditions were stable. Basic Weather Watch would examine the elements every 20 minutes and post intermediate observations as various parameters crossed their thresholds. One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG SHE GOES OUT." :-) The ground school class at VNY was presented with a glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class. THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZY DOGS BACK RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48 contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands. TTY NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports. Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent by TTY. That was in times before NOAA. NOTAMS travelled the wx TTY circuits in the Air Force and the Army. We ripped them off and handed them to BASOPS. They posted them in the flight planning rooms. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Slow Code wrote: Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest in peace over CW. SC Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die? |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW"on Ham Bands?
an old friend wrote:
indeed I am certain that all that is keeping some of these hams alive is code thus I am expecting a sudden die off when the R&O come out The R&O may come after global warming has already killed most of us off. Here's what Al Gore had to say quoting from The DrudgeReport: Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore warned: "Cigarette smoking is a significant contributor to global warming!" -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
From: on Fri, Sep 29 2006 9:00 pm
Slow Code wrote: Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest in peace over CW. Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die? Blowcode can, in his small mind's imagination, do all sorts of things. Here's a "plain and simple fact" of possible probables in case of anyone ACTUALLY dying or needing help: 1. By telephone, wired or cell: Dial 911, the universal, manned 24/7 emergency number. In turn, the 911 operator will communicate with the appropriate agency by wire or radio (there are 3 basic radio bands for public safety radio services in the USA, one more coming). There is one cell phone for every three citizens in the USA. Speed as fast as a 911 conversation. 2. By - gasp - Citizens Band Radio Service transceivers in urban areas. CB radio users out-number amateurs by 4 to 5 to one. Considering that some radio amateurs have to work for a living and are not AT their ham radios but highway truckers are both working and with their CBs, the virtual ratio is probably double 5:1. Probability of return to first communication about help is high considering that many CB transceivers have guard receivers always tuned to the emergency channel. Speed of that is variable, may take three times longer than a conversation with a 911 operator. 3. If flying there are two basic ways to indicate help. Overland airways routes will have ATCRBS running and a transponder "77" prefix code will generate a flag on the ATC beacon display. On civil airways, 121.5 MHz is the international universal emergency frequency (243 MHz for military radio). Speed of either is a bit longer than with 911 operator calling but quite fast. 4. On the water, in inland waterways and harbors, there is a VHF FM channel for emergencies but common in-use frequencies would get attention for real calls for help. GMDSS is available on ships over deep water as well as an HF radio voice channel for international maritime distress calls. Since maritmers are noted for adherence to SOLAS (Safety Of Life At Sea), the response would be fast. 5. On land, lacking cell coverage (rare now) but on or near highways, there is high probability that any motorist or trucker would have a CB or possibly a business vehicle with a business radio would be passing (PLMRS vehicular radios are quite common with small and large businesses). Any passing public safety agency vehicle would have a radio transceiver capable of directly contacting appropriate help. Farmers are increasing their use of private radios and might be nearby. FRS and GMRS HTs are also becoming more common for both private and business use. Speed of help calling would be variable depending on location, nearby vehicular traffic. 6. Lacking any of the above, one might look for a non-TV or non-CB antenna on a house...high probability of that belonging to a radio amateur. [such a search could take many hours, though] If the date and time corresponded to a ham contest time, the ham might not respond quickly. Even if the ham responded and began calling, there is no assurance that anyone would hear or pay attention to some emergency plea; that would violate the normal conversation that goes on in ham bands and cause much on-air disputes, further clogging calls for help. Speed of help calling is variable, anything from several minutes to many hours. Not that it matters since the victim already died after trying to get through all the ragchewing, self-styled radio police, and general cat-calling by other amateurs. 7. Blow Code is of NO help since he is not verified as a valid (or invalid) licensed radio amateur. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote: From: on Fri, Sep 29 2006 9:00 pm 6. Lacking any of the above, one might look for a non-TV or non-CB antenna on a house...high probability of that belonging to a radio amateur. [such a search could take many hours, though] If the date and time corresponded to a ham contest time, the ham might not respond quickly. Even if the ham responded and began calling, there is no assurance that anyone would hear or pay attention to some emergency plea; that would violate the normal conversation that goes on in ham bands and cause much on-air disputes, further clogging calls for help. Speed of help calling is variable, anything from several minutes to many hours. Not that it matters since the victim already died after trying to get through all the ragchewing, self-styled radio police, and general cat-calling by other amateurs. or you if you had to you could send ing sos or oso the later seems likely to get you aid the fastest from the CW they will df you fast to come and castise you for it and likely then well at least rennder first aid as they take you to task for daring to misspell sos |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote: From: on Fri, Sep 29 2006 9:00 pm Slow Code wrote: Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest in peace over CW. Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die? Blowcode can, in his small mind's imagination, do all sorts of things. Here's a "plain and simple fact" of possible probables in case of anyone ACTUALLY dying or needing help: 1. By telephone, wired or cell: Dial 911, the universal, manned 24/7 emergency number. In turn, the 911 operator will communicate with the appropriate agency by wire or radio (there are 3 basic radio bands for public safety radio services in the USA, one more coming). There is one cell phone for every three citizens in the USA. Speed as fast as a 911 conversation. Correction... that's "9 -dash- 1 -dash- 1." Robesin says so. 2. By - gasp - Citizens Band Radio Service transceivers in urban areas. CB radio users out-number amateurs by 4 to 5 to one. Considering that some radio amateurs have to work for a living and are not AT their ham radios but highway truckers are both working and with their CBs, the virtual ratio is probably double 5:1. Probability of return to first communication about help is high considering that many CB transceivers have guard receivers always tuned to the emergency channel. Speed of that is variable, may take three times longer than a conversation with a 911 operator. 3. If flying there are two basic ways to indicate help. Overland airways routes will have ATCRBS running and a transponder "77" prefix code will generate a flag on the ATC beacon display. On civil airways, 121.5 MHz is the international universal emergency frequency (243 MHz for military radio). Speed of either is a bit longer than with 911 operator calling but quite fast. 4. On the water, in inland waterways and harbors, there is a VHF FM channel for emergencies but common in-use frequencies would get attention for real calls for help. GMDSS is available on ships over deep water as well as an HF radio voice channel for international maritime distress calls. Since maritmers are noted for adherence to SOLAS (Safety Of Life At Sea), the response would be fast. 5. On land, lacking cell coverage (rare now) but on or near highways, there is high probability that any motorist or trucker would have a CB or possibly a business vehicle with a business radio would be passing (PLMRS vehicular radios are quite common with small and large businesses). Any passing public safety agency vehicle would have a radio transceiver capable of directly contacting appropriate help. Farmers are increasing their use of private radios and might be nearby. FRS and GMRS HTs are also becoming more common for both private and business use. Speed of help calling would be variable depending on location, nearby vehicular traffic. 6. Lacking any of the above, one might look for a non-TV or non-CB antenna on a house...high probability of that belonging to a radio amateur. [such a search could take many hours, though] If the date and time corresponded to a ham contest time, the ham might not respond quickly. Even if the ham responded and began calling, there is no assurance that anyone would hear or pay attention to some emergency plea; that would violate the normal conversation that goes on in ham bands and cause much on-air disputes, further clogging calls for help. Speed of help calling is variable, anything from several minutes to many hours. Not that it matters since the victim already died after trying to get through all the ragchewing, self-styled radio police, and general cat-calling by other amateurs. 7. Blow Code is of NO help since he is not verified as a valid (or invalid) licensed radio amateur. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote in
: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:46:41 GMT, Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 : " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. on Hand bam? http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ Yep...on 80m. It was the only communications he had at the time. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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ups.com: Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA, half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.). SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra in-between-scheduled-times reports. One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG SHE GOES OUT." :-) The ground school class at VNY was presented with a glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class. This was NOT weather. This was seismic. The runway was rising in spurts sometimes as much as 3 feet in an hour. And, in that era all the comms were microwave and had been knocked out by the big quake. 80m was all he had. In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48 contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands. At that time Alaska was tied into the networks by microwave. When the quake shifted towers, we lost it all. NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports. Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent by TTY. That was in times before NOAA. Yes, I know. I was working at Kimberly Aeradio in BC at the time of the quake. It was violent enough to leave a small mark on my barograph, even at that distance. The guys in Edmonton lost all circuits to Alaska and in short order we knew that we had a HUGE communications emergency on our hands (not to mention a real disaster). At least I was in a position to put the information on the proper teletype circuits addressed to the proper authorities. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Slow Code wrote: wrote in ups.com: Slow Code wrote: Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest in peace over CW. SC Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die? Lenny's life was saved. The shock he got at being told he'd been saved by CW resulted in him having a heart attack, and that killed him. SC Count me dead, too. I never would have believed it. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Slow Code wrote: Lenny's life was saved. The shock he got at being told he'd been saved by CW resulted in him having a heart attack, and that killed him. Contrary to Blow Code's fantasies, "the reports of my demise have been exaggerated." [more or less a quote of Samuel Clemens] I've never had a heart attack, have never died. Now quit imaginging things that haven't happened. If you keep on, the new moderating team may make you sit in the corner. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Dave Oldridge wrote: wrote in : On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:46:41 GMT, Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 : " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. on Hand bam? http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ Yep...on 80m. It was the only communications he had at the time. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 I've been thinking about this. I've taken classes in land surveying and used to shoot levels at the COE. Other than the earth shaking, how did he determine what the correct elevation was? |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
Dave Oldridge wrote: " wrote in ups.com: Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA, half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.). SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra in-between-scheduled-times reports. One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG SHE GOES OUT." :-) The ground school class at VNY was presented with a glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class. This was NOT weather. This was seismic. Other geologic events are passed via WX circuits besides earthquakes. For example, ash plumes as detected by wx satellie observations. NOTAMS are in the WX circuits. The runway was rising in spurts sometimes as much as 3 feet in an hour. And, in that era all the comms were microwave and had been knocked out by the big quake. 80m was all he had. Fair enough. In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48 contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands. At that time Alaska was tied into the networks by microwave. When the quake shifted towers, we lost it all. NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports. Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent by TTY. That was in times before NOAA. Yes, I know. I was working at Kimberly Aeradio in BC at the time of the quake. It was violent enough to leave a small mark on my barograph, even at that distance. The guys in Edmonton lost all circuits to Alaska and in short order we knew that we had a HUGE communications emergency on our hands (not to mention a real disaster). At least I was in a position to put the information on the proper teletype circuits addressed to the proper authorities. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Fri, Sep 29 2006 9:00 pm Correction... that's "9 -dash- 1 -dash- 1." Robesin says so. then it MUST be worng BB you should know that by now It's come full circle. ;^) Har! :-) The robeswine spawned the worm ouroborous! :-) What is that? It is the mythical long worm that keeps eating his own tail. :-) May not be spelled exactly right...I don't speak Wormish. If Klein wants to post about seeing-eye cats and bees in the "Code Reader Recommendation" thread, I can describe worms. :-) |
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Dave Oldridge wrote: wrote in oups.com: Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 PADK? I don't remember now. Those were interesting days. And that kind of emergency, while it can still happen, would be mitigated today by the fact of satellite telephones, GPS and so forth that don't depend on local power or microwave comms. Indeed, cell phones would probably have held up in most areas if the towers were halfway decently designed and powered.... BLASPHEMY!!! CW on 80M still rules during EMCOMMS! ;^) It was all the microwave dishes on towers that moved a tad that made it a real communications emergency. Gyro/Gimbal mounted dishes? If I were to have to deal with one like that today, I'd probably vote for using some digital mode, such as PSK31 or Olivia to move the traffic. But all we had back then was 850 shift RTTY and not very much of that. It was another two years before I got mine going (170 shift by then already!). -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 I think RTTY is cool, but I won't force a RTTY practical exam on anyone. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Fri, Sep 29 2006 9:00 pm Correction... that's "9 -dash- 1 -dash- 1." Robesin says so. then it MUST be worng BB you should know that by now It's come full circle. ;^) Har! :-) The robeswine spawned the worm ouroborous! :-) What is that? It is the mythical long worm that keeps eating his own tail. :-) May not be spelled exactly right...I don't speak Wormish. If Klein wants to post about seeing-eye cats and bees in the "Code Reader Recommendation" thread, I can describe worms. :-) I never expected to find a worm in the bottom of a tequila bottle. I expected to find Robeswine there. |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
wrote in news:1159749149.386279.201030
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com: Dave Oldridge wrote: wrote in : On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:46:41 GMT, Dave Oldridge wrote: Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724 : " wrote in oups.com: Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings. Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors in 1912... Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits for him. His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were inaccurate. on Hand bam? http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ Yep...on 80m. It was the only communications he had at the time. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 I've been thinking about this. I've taken classes in land surveying and used to shoot levels at the COE. Other than the earth shaking, how did he determine what the correct elevation was? He didn't say....but at three feet per hour with the ocean nearby it wouldn't be that hard to tell. And that was the point of his notice. He COULDN'T determine it. But he knew the published value was wrong, which also meant that all he could give arriving aircraft was a guess. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
So, Which reader has actually saved a life or lives using "CW" on Ham Bands?
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