On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:44:50 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
spake thusly:

"Appliance Operator" is a term to distinguish from those who are able not
only to turn on and operate their equipment, but also understand how it
functions and can reproduce the circuitry therein. An appliance operator
knows little or nothing about how the equipment they use works, only how to
use it (not necessarily in a proper or legal manner).

Does this mean that only a fully qualified journeyman auto technician
really knows how to drive a car properly?

Does an executive chef at a 5 star restaurant need to know Ohms Law in
order to cook properly on an electric stovetop? Does he also need to
be a petro-chemist to operate a gas range?

The notion that only a person who knows the inner workings of a device
can operate it properly is downright insulting and worthy of utter
contempt.

Can you rebuild the transmission in your car in your back yard right
now? If not then you are a bad driver, according to the "appliance
operator" logic being spewed here.
--

(Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)

"What, Me Worry?" A. E. Newman

Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at
my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...





And you are stuck on Lazy-ass appliance operator thinking. Why don't you
head on over to rec.radio.cb, they need help using their appliances and
you'll fit right in.

ALL radio operators are "appliance operators" as you so idiotically
put it. A radio is a radio, no matter who turns the switch on. Does
the range in your kitchen stop being a range if Martha Stewart
operates it?


"Appliance Operator" is a term to distinguish from those who are able not
only to turn on and operate their equipment, but also understand how it
functions and can reproduce the circuitry therein. An appliance operator
knows little or nothing about how the equipment they use works, only how to
use it (not necessarily in a proper or legal manner).
/

Would this include a KB9 station from Michigan?

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...









Hmmm...kind of silent in here... :-)










Geez, Len.

11 meters dead today, you gotta troll hams?

SC

Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...

Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very
important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the
days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits
for him.

His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were
inaccurate.




--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

Dave Oldridge wrote:
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...

Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very
important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the
days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits
for him.

His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were
inaccurate.

Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school
instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA,
half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.).
SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at
airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport
conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and
subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more
rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra
in-between-scheduled-times reports.

One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the
operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG
SHE GOES OUT." :-)

The ground school class at VNY was presented with a
glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must
have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was
already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class.

In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their
own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48
contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with
manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I
think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands.

NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the
FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports.
Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent
by TTY. That was in times before NOAA.

" wrote in
ups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...

Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a
very important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the
Aleutians in the days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper
teletype circuits for him.

His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were
inaccurate.

Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school
instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA,
half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.).
SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at
airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport
conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and
subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more
rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra
in-between-scheduled-times reports.

One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the
operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG
SHE GOES OUT." :-)

The ground school class at VNY was presented with a
glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must
have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was
already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class.

In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their
own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48
contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with
manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I
think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands.

NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the
FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports.
Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent
by TTY. That was in times before NOAA.





Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you
are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll
know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest
in peace over CW.


SC

Dave Oldridge wrote:
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...

Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very
important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the
days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits
for him.

His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were
inaccurate.

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

PADK?

wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Slow Code wrote in news:SPYSg.4010$o71.3724
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

" wrote in
oups.com:

Please, don't all jump in at once with all the unproven
bragging and dozens of local weekly newspaper clippings.

Let's hear it for the mode that saved the Titanic survivors
in 1912...

Don't know about whether it saved any lives or not, but I once took a very
important NOTAM (Notice to Airman) on CW from a guy in the Aleutians in the
days following the 1964 quake and put it on the proper teletype circuits
for him.

His airport's altitude was changing so that charts and other info were
inaccurate.

Dave, that sounds very suspicious considering my ground school
instructor's 1962 display of a then-old Santa Barbara, CA,
half-hour TTY Wx report (then required by Commerce Dept.).
SBA (ID of Santa Barbara), like all other weather stations at
airports, were required to post their local Wx and airport
conditions every half hour. SBA is on the Pacific coast and
subject to rapid variations of weather. If weather changes more
rapidly than that, weather stations were required to post extra
in-between-scheduled-times reports.

KSBD = Norton AFB They had RC-135's, wx recon.

Continuous Weather Watch would post an hourly observation, and
intermediate observations as various parameters crossed their
thresholds, usually an ALSTG local when conditions were stable.

Basic Weather Watch would examine the elements every 20 minutes and
post intermediate observations as various parameters crossed their
thresholds.

One day, after having fog entering and leaving SBA often, the
operator of the TTY sent: "THE FOG SHE COMES IN THE FOG
SHE GOES OUT." :-)

The ground school class at VNY was presented with a
glassine-protected TTY copy of the Wx message that must
have been old at that time (the cheap TTY paper was
already turning yellow). Got a good laugh from the class.

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZY DOGS BACK

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

In 1964 (which is 42 years ago), the weather stations had their
own network over leased telephone lines. At least in the 48
contiguous states. Whether or not Alaska was tied in with
manual telegraphy (radio or wirelines) I can't confirm...nor do I
think it important since I know it was NOT via amateur bands.

TTY

NOTAMs take many shapes but back 40+ years ago, the
FAA handled them and saw to their distribution at airports.
Most were press-printed but some current ones were sent
by TTY. That was in times before NOAA.



NOTAMS travelled the wx TTY circuits in the Air Force and the Army. We
ripped them off and handed them to BASOPS. They posted them in the
flight planning rooms.

Slow Code wrote:

Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you
are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll
know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest
in peace over CW.

SC

Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die?

wrote:
Slow Code wrote:

Lenny, just to help you feel better about morse code, if I ever hear you
are dying and in need of help, I will use CW to get you help. Then you'll
know before you die a ham used morse code to save a life and you can rest
in peace over CW.

SC

Slow, thats IMPOSSIBLE! If you use CW then how can Len die?
indeed I am certain that all that is keeping some of these hams alive
is code thus I am expecting a sudden die off when the R&O come out