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This explains the "Casimir Effect:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_effect

This indicates that a sound method has been discovered to manipulate it:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...ack-levitation

Now, one can only speculate as to whether this will have possible
effects on the design/implementation of future antennas ... or possibly
lead to the "discovery" of new/"previously unknown" laws/forces which
have been in play and beyond our vision.

Regards,
JS
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This explains the "Casimir Effect:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_effect

This indicates that a sound method has been discovered to manipulate it:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...ack-levitation

Now, one can only speculate as to whether this will have possible
effects on the design/implementation of future antennas ... or possibly
lead to the "discovery" of new/"previously unknown" laws/forces which
have been in play and beyond our vision.

Regards,
JS


John

So you tie an antenna wire to a gecko and get it to run up the nearest tall
object? :-)

Mike G0ULI



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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:08:07 -0700, John Smith I
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This explains the "Casimir Effect:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_effect

This indicates that a sound method has been discovered to manipulate it:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...ack-levitation


Remember Pons and Fleishman?

Now, one can only speculate as to whether this will have possible
effects on the design/implementation of future antennas ... or possibly
lead to the "discovery" of new/"previously unknown" laws/forces which
have been in play and beyond our vision.



Gad, just what we need is more existential fodder for Arthur (except
you leaped to an antenna connection before he could opine "throw away
the text books").

Future nano antennas? At this scale, there is nothing so amusing as
those in, over their heads. It may shock many to discover that
resonance becomes decoupled from scaling at this -um- scale. This
isn't your dad's quarterwave monopole anymore.

Another message from Western Union, the Casimir effect was well known
CENTURIES ago to sailors. It was only myopic scientists who
re-discovered it under their microscope and put a label to it in spite
of this common knowledge.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Richard Clark wrote:
Another message from Western Union, the Casimir effect was well known
CENTURIES ago to sailors. It was only myopic scientists who
re-discovered it under their microscope and put a label to it in spite
of this common knowledge.


Centuries ago it was nearly impossible for sailors to find anyone who
would publish their nanoelectronics research.

:-)
ac6xg

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Richard Clark wrote:

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Another message from Western Union, the Casimir effect was well known
CENTURIES ago to sailors. It was only myopic scientists who
re-discovered it under their microscope and put a label to it in spite
of this common knowledge.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Well, did they claim to have levitated atomic sized particles?

Regards,
JS


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Mike Kaliski wrote:

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So you tie an antenna wire to a gecko and get it to run up the nearest tall
object? :-)

Mike G0ULI


So? Your claim is the Casimir Effect only has domain over atomic sized
particles and "possibly" larger? Interesting, I would take your bet ...
if it affects atomic sized particles, it will be found to affect
smaller; and bigger, I wonder? But, apparently, that/those questions
are being posed ...

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Jim Kelley wrote:

Centuries ago it was nearly impossible for sailors to find anyone who
would publish their nanoelectronics research.

:-)
ac6xg


Jim:

I am busting a gut here, the humor is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
JS


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Mike Kaliski wrote:


So you tie an antenna wire to a gecko and get it to run up the nearest tall
object? :-)

Mike G0ULI


Yanno? Come to think of it, if they really do have a crashed alien
craft or two, and are reverse engineering 'em, you'd just have to expect
something like this to develop somewhere at sometime; wouldn't ya? grin

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JS


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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:48:16 -0700, John Smith I
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Richard Clark wrote:

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Another message from Western Union, the Casimir effect was well known
CENTURIES ago to sailors. It was only myopic scientists who
re-discovered it under their microscope and put a label to it in spite
of this common knowledge.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Well, did they claim to have levitated atomic sized particles?


Talk about the claims of Tritonic minnows.

The Casimir effect is a specious example of a larger effect. Centuries
ago (and even now, if anyone cares to attempt it), when ships are
side-by-side, in close proximity, a difference in energy level
pressing on the ship's hulls is found to draw them together into
collision.

For others: The wave energy in the sea comes in many wavelengths and
is equally distributed upon the surface of a large ship (no appeals to
nanotechnology is required to understand any of this). As a result,
the combined force is washed out, so to speak. The net force of all
energies does not otherwise move nor change the course of a ship.
However, when two ships are running parallel tracks close together,
the space between them limits the frequency of wavelengths between
them. There is thus a smaller range of energies present between the
ships. The balance in energies applied to all sides of either ship is
lost. That loss is found in the parallel faces of the hulls and the
remaining original forces cause the ships to draw together and
collide.

Now, what has this got to do with nanotechnology? NADA.

What has this got to do with antennas? NADA.

What sort of lens would reverse this effect in ships to push them
apart (so called levitation of the Super Man comix)? The reader can
rest well to imagine another shaggy dog proposal.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Nice fairytale; and given all the time at sea, those sailors certainly
would have had the time to dream it up; and, it is easy for one to
imagine as holding water.

However, the rising and falling of the ships would create a "pumping
effect" between the said ships ...

As, the ships rise on the wave, the ships tend to be "pushed" together
by the fact that water on all the outsides of the ships finds it easier
to flow up to, and onto, the ships, leaving a "partial vacuum" in
between the ships due to the fact water "flowing in" between the ships
faces more resistance getting in their.

Now, as the wave subsides, the ships are "held together" by the fact the
water "flowing out" between the ships faces much more resistance than
the water flowing away on the outsides ... the ships eventually end up
touching.

While the Casimir Effect may, or may not, relate to this phenomenon in
some esoteric and abstract way--I rather doubt it! silly grin

QUIT PULLING RICHARD! I FEEL MY ONE LEG, YOU ARE PULLING, GETTING
LONGER ALREADY. :-)

Regards,
JS
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