John Smith wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:

...
OK, I think I got it now. The only things no longer allowed a

1) Stealing an amp rather than buying it.

2) Direct sales from a manufacturer or importer to anyone other than
an amateur or a dealer.

The dealer loophole means that 97.315 is a total waste of ink and paper.

73,
Gene
W4SZ


Now, while I think No. 1, "Stealing an amp rather than buying it", is,
quite obviously, illegal, why in the world should one be required to be
an amateur to purchase ANY, SPECIFIC, piece/module/system of electronic
equipment??? There 'ya go, that "want for common sense" crops up once
again!

Could you, EXACTLY, explain the logic in that to me? I am waiting ...
(or, No. 2, above)

Regards,
JS

I have never made any comment about what "should" be the law.

What appears is that 97.315 is now totally useless for any purpose. It
is no longer necessary for any manufacturer or importer to get a
certification for external RF amps as long as they sell such items only
to amateurs (OK) or "dealers". I don't know if the FCC defines the term
"dealer" or if there are any restrictions on what "dealers" may sell.

This section of the law was originally intended to minimize the number
of high powered amps available for CB use. It now appears that the only
requirement for legal sale of such amps is that they pass through a
"dealer". Usage is another question, but how many multi-kW CBers would
worry about that?

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Gene Fuller wrote:

...
I have never made any comment about what "should" be the law.

What appears is that 97.315 is now totally useless for any purpose. It
is no longer necessary for any manufacturer or importer to get a
certification for external RF amps as long as they sell such items only
to amateurs (OK) or "dealers". I don't know if the FCC defines the term
"dealer" or if there are any restrictions on what "dealers" may sell.

This section of the law was originally intended to minimize the number
of high powered amps available for CB use. It now appears that the only
requirement for legal sale of such amps is that they pass through a
"dealer". Usage is another question, but how many multi-kW CBers would
worry about that?

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Gene;

Perhaps I have "had a bad day." Or, perhaps I was "too quick." Or,
perhaps my understanding was lacking, etc. ...

Well, I certainly see no reason that a CB'er exceeding 5w is NOT in
violation of the law.

But to your question, "... how many multi-kW CBers would worry about that?"

My answer:

Every damn one that is breaking that law! Either pay the fines, do the
time, or change that law! (or, "we" change it.)

I stand corrected, I did not have the "beef" with you, it seems, I had
imagined ... I crawl back to my hole ... I stand corrected ... please
accept my apologies.

Warm regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:

Gene;

Perhaps I have "had a bad day." Or, perhaps I was "too quick." Or,
perhaps my understanding was lacking, etc. ...

Well, I certainly see no reason that a CB'er exceeding 5w is NOT in
violation of the law.

But to your question, "... how many multi-kW CBers would worry about
that?"

My answer:

Every damn one that is breaking that law! Either pay the fines, do the
time, or change that law! (or, "we" change it.)

I stand corrected, I did not have the "beef" with you, it seems, I had
imagined ... I crawl back to my hole ... I stand corrected ... please
accept my apologies.

Warm regards,
JS

Uhhh, perhaps with some explanation ... darn that thinking ... although
I used to be an Alter Boy, it didn't take ... :-(

I did drive truck, decades ago ... I have exceeded power levels/freqs
(dates, freqs, power-levels and times withheld to protect "the innocent"
....)

What can I say?; some occupations come with "liabilities" ... ;-)

Regards,
JS

"Gene Fuller" wrote in message
news
John Smith wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:

...
OK, I think I got it now. The only things no longer allowed a

1) Stealing an amp rather than buying it.

2) Direct sales from a manufacturer or importer to anyone other than an
amateur or a dealer.

The dealer loophole means that 97.315 is a total waste of ink and paper.

73,
Gene
W4SZ


Now, while I think No. 1, "Stealing an amp rather than buying it", is,
quite obviously, illegal, why in the world should one be required to be
an amateur to purchase ANY, SPECIFIC, piece/module/system of electronic
equipment??? There 'ya go, that "want for common sense" crops up once
again!

Could you, EXACTLY, explain the logic in that to me? I am waiting ...
(or, No. 2, above)

Regards,
JS

I have never made any comment about what "should" be the law.

What appears is that 97.315 is now totally useless for any purpose. It is
no longer necessary for any manufacturer or importer to get a
certification for external RF amps as long as they sell such items only to
amateurs (OK) or "dealers". I don't know if the FCC defines the term
"dealer" or if there are any restrictions on what "dealers" may sell.

This section of the law was originally intended to minimize the number of
high powered amps available for CB use. It now appears that the only
requirement for legal sale of such amps is that they pass through a
"dealer". Usage is another question, but how many multi-kW CBers would
worry about that?

73,
Gene
W4SZ

rules to limit non-amateur use of transmitters and amps should be other
places anyway so its probably just as well that part 97 doesn't really limit
what a ham can use. we are, after all, the ones who have to pass the
technical exams and follow relatively technical rules. So we should be able
to use whatever we can operate within our allocated frequencies, modes and
powers. As opposed to fixed channel, power limited, appliances that are the
legal radios for other services.