"JB" wrote in news:gQ2vk.206$Af3.111@trnddc06:


God's plan won't be usurped, but we can petition Him with prayer over
some points. This leads us to another possible conclusion.

I was listening to a preacher just last night.

According to him, All is preordinated. God knows the outcome of everything
and every single thing that has and will ever happen. All is predestinated.
This has been known from before he created the unuverse

Do your prayers make any difference, they really don't, because God knew
you were going to pray, and he knew his response. You had no choice. You
did what you did because God made you do it that way.

This of course means that God knows the predestination of every person he
created, which means that he knew that he was knowingly condemming a whole
lot of people to an eternity of torture.

Nice guy.

Mike Coslo wrote:
"JB" wrote in news:gQ2vk.206$Af3.111@trnddc06:
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Nice guy.


Wow, just imagine, some guy ( a God) claims to know all about "you."

Ain't much of a claim huh, a complex mind would be much more difficult,
huh? ROFLOL "He" might have to guess then ... ;-)

Regards,
JS

--
It is like a nightmare where the public servants are the people which
the police are supposed to protect us from!

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
36...

Do your prayers make any difference, they really don't, because God knew
you were going to pray, and he knew his response. You had no choice. You
did what you did because God made you do it that way.

This of course means that God knows the predestination of every person he
created, which means that he knew that he was knowingly condemming a whole
lot of people to an eternity of torture.

I picked up on these and other inconsistencies in the early 1970s. I've
been an atheist ever since.

I wish some few atheists weren't such activists about it, though. It gives
us bad PR and turns atheism into a religion.

Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
36...
Do your prayers make any difference, they really don't, because God knew
you were going to pray, and he knew his response. You had no choice. You
did what you did because God made you do it that way.

This of course means that God knows the predestination of every person he
created, which means that he knew that he was knowingly condemming a whole
lot of people to an eternity of torture.

I picked up on these and other inconsistencies in the early 1970s. I've
been an atheist ever since.

I wish some few atheists weren't such activists about it, though. It gives
us bad PR and turns atheism into a religion.

For me, a person is allowed to believe whatever they want, as long as it
doesn't affect me. Unfortunately, too many of them don't get that part
and want to force themselves on everyone.

Oddly enough, the greatest sermon, direct orders from the man himself is
ignored by these folk.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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For me, a person is allowed to believe whatever they want, as long as it
doesn't affect me. Unfortunately, too many of them don't get that part
and want to force themselves on everyone.

Oddly enough, the greatest sermon, direct orders from the man himself is
ignored by these folk.

That would be .... the "Do unto others ... " if I get your drift.

Proselytizing has its place I suppose, but I wish they'd figure out that I'm
not interested and quit ringing my doorbell ... them and AT&T.

Mike Coslo wrote:

I was listening to a preacher just last night.

According to him, All is preordinated. God knows the outcome of everything
and every single thing that has and will ever happen. All is predestinated.
This has been known from before he created the unuverse

Predestinated?? Does that mean that God knows exactly when
you will end your 2-meter mobile QSO, lock up the car and
go inside the supermarket for the milk jug the XYL just told
you to pick up on the way home?

Jim, K7JEB

Jim, K7JEB wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I was listening to a preacher just last night.

According to him, All is preordinated. God knows the outcome of everything
and every single thing that has and will ever happen. All is predestinated.
This has been known from before he created the unuverse

Predestinated?? Does that mean that God knows exactly when
you will end your 2-meter mobile QSO, lock up the car and
go inside the supermarket for the milk jug the XYL just told
you to pick up on the way home?


You got it. He won't tell you when you lock your keys in the car - even
when he already knows you're going to do it!

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:19:28 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:

Jim, K7JEB wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I was listening to a preacher just last night.

According to him, All is preordinated. God knows the outcome of everything
and every single thing that has and will ever happen. All is predestinated.
This has been known from before he created the unuverse

Predestinated?? Does that mean that God knows exactly when
you will end your 2-meter mobile QSO, lock up the car and
go inside the supermarket for the milk jug the XYL just told
you to pick up on the way home?


You got it. He won't tell you when you lock your keys in the car - even
when he already knows you're going to do it!

He won't answer your prayers for the phone number for AAA because he
already wrote it on your membership card he knew you left on the
dresser.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:19:28 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:

Jim, K7JEB wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I was listening to a preacher just last night.

According to him, All is preordinated. God knows the outcome of everything
and every single thing that has and will ever happen. All is predestinated.
This has been known from before he created the unuverse
Predestinated?? Does that mean that God knows exactly when
you will end your 2-meter mobile QSO, lock up the car and
go inside the supermarket for the milk jug the XYL just told
you to pick up on the way home?

You got it. He won't tell you when you lock your keys in the car - even
when he already knows you're going to do it!

He won't answer your prayers for the phone number for AAA because he
already wrote it on your membership card he knew you left on the
dresser.


If he was a person, he wouldn't be on my Christmas card list.


After I wrote that, I realized just how weird the statement was. Oh
well, I'll leave it for people's amusement or irritation.

Suffice it to say, the XYL wouldn't put up with that sort of behavior....


- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Michael Coslo wrote:
You got it. He won't tell you when you lock your keys in the car - even
when he already knows you're going to do it!

Even before He told Pharaoh to let His people go,
He already knew Pharaoh was predestined to say no.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com