"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"Richard Clark" wrote
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:43:27 -0400, "Dr. Barry L. Ornitz"
wrote:

I suspect your problem is one of language
and adolescent stubbornness combined.

Hi Barry,

I suspect you would be wrong on two counts, but that is of no
importance.

frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP*), and also by

* This group is also not the place to bring up conspiracy theories
involving this research program.

Good resources that will add to our composite knowledge. I will
browse them. As for HAARP, that "controversy" has faded considerable
from its first incendiary introduction years ago. I wonder if Stephan
will pick up on its implications.

Now I read only the description (original if possible) of experiments and
observations. Interpretations and explanation I do myself.
Now are many publications because they are obligatory (like homework). The
problem transverse vs longitudinal is now very simple. In nature no pure
transverse waves. Always are the two components. Even water waves are
largely longitudinal.
But we need the explanation for light polarization. So I am here.
S*

EM waves are transverse. The Poynting vector is the cross product of the
electric and magnetic field, by definition that results in a direction of
propagation that is perpendicular to the two fields.

"Dave" wrote
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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"Richard Clark" wrote
...
On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:43:27 -0400, "Dr. Barry L. Ornitz"
wrote:

I suspect your problem is one of language
and adolescent stubbornness combined.

Hi Barry,

I suspect you would be wrong on two counts, but that is of no
importance.

frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP*), and also by

* This group is also not the place to bring up conspiracy theories
involving this research program.

Good resources that will add to our composite knowledge. I will
browse them. As for HAARP, that "controversy" has faded considerable
from its first incendiary introduction years ago. I wonder if Stephan
will pick up on its implications.

Now I read only the description (original if possible) of experiments and
observations. Interpretations and explanation I do myself.
Now are many publications because they are obligatory (like homework).
The problem transverse vs longitudinal is now very simple. In nature no
pure transverse waves. Always are the two components. Even water waves
are largely longitudinal.
But we need the explanation for light polarization. So I am here.
S*

EM waves are transverse. The Poynting vector is the cross product of the
electric and magnetic field, by definition that results in a direction of
propagation that is perpendicular to the two fields.

The Pointing vector and the rest are from the fluid mechnics. There are the
whirls. Whirls had also sense in times when electricity was as
incompressible massles fluid. The moving electrons cause in medium stress
and strains.
The magnetic whirl around a wire is a assmption. The clasical EM is valid
only for such assumption.
S*

Szczepan Bia³ek wrote:
The magnetic whirl around a wire is a assmption. The clasical EM is
valid only for such assumption.

EM waves in free space, "in" a wire, or in a waveguide,
propagate at the speed of light in the medium. Therefore,
the EM energy is photonic since electrons cannot move
that fast. Even the impulse current in a DC circuit
is photonic. The name "standing wave" is an oxymoron.
If its standing, it's not a wave, by definition.

An analogy might be water flowing through a pipe. One
can send information through the pipe much faster than
the water is flowing.
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com