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"Dustin" wrote in message ... Hello, I am going to be making some adaptor harnesses for my HT, they are going to have a PL-259 on one end and a SMA male end on the other, my question is are the center conductor's inside the RG-58 and RG-174 the same diameter because I see all the jumper harness's that are available commercially made of RG-174, but when I see DIY pages they are made of RG-58, and I just want to make sure. I read that RG-58 has alot less loss and is cheaper. Thanks As the impedance is determined by the ratio of the outer conductor to the center conductor (for the same insulation between them) the 174 has to have a smaller center conductor than the 58. RG-58 does have more loss but for less than 5 feet on two meters I doubt that you will notice it. Probably not even on 440 mhz . If using the RG-58 try to find some with a stranded center conductor as much of it seems to be solid wire. |
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Hello, I am going to be making some adaptor harnesses for my HT, they are
going to have a PL-259 on one end and a SMA male end on the other, my question is are the center conductor's inside the RG-58 and RG-174 the same diameter because I see all the jumper harness's that are available commercially made of RG-174, but when I see DIY pages they are made of RG-58, and I just want to make sure. I read that RG-58 has alot less loss and is cheaper. Thanks RG-58 has lower loss than RG-174, because RG-58's center conductor is larger in diameter than RG-174s. You'll need to buy SMA connectors which are specifically designed for RG-58 - this cable won't fit into an SMA connector made for RG-174. Because of its larger diameter, it's also likely to be stiffer than RG-174. This means that it could put more stress on the HT's SMA socket, if the harness is pulled or pushed sideways. The lower loss in RG-58 isn't likely to make a significant amount of difference for a short harness, at least not at 2-meter frequencies. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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Why would you do that? Solid has less loss. If you are worried about it
flexing too much and work-hardening (or breaking) the center conductor, use a strain relief of shrink sleeving at both ends. Jim "Ralph Mowery" shared these priceless pearls of wisdom: - If using the RG-58 try to find some with a stranded -center conductor as much of it seems to be solid wire. - - Jim Weir, VP Eng. RST Eng. WX6RST A&P, CFI, and other good alphabet soup |
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Why would you do that? Solid has less loss. If you are worried about it
flexing too much and work-hardening (or breaking) the center conductor, use a strain relief of shrink sleeving at both ends. To my mind, the stiffer the cable, the more stress it's going to put on the HT's SMA jack. Stiffening the cable via heatshrink tubing is only going to make this worse, by increasing the moment arm. SMA jacks on some HTs (e.g. the VX-5) are rather notorious for working loose, even under the modest stress and strain of a rubber-duck antenna. IMHO, SMA is a fine connector for intra-cabinet connections and fixed-station applications, but it's less than ideal for antenna connections on handhelds. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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"Jim Weir" wrote in message ... Why would you do that? Solid has less loss. If you are worried about it flexing too much and work-hardening (or breaking) the center conductor, use a strain relief of shrink sleeving at both ends. For less than 10 feet there is no noticable differance in the loss of a solid vers stranded center conductor for the same size coax. When used for jumpers that are going to be moved alot such as with a HT then the wire will work harden and break.. Maybe in the middle and not at the very end near the connector. More than likely it will be about 4 to 6 inches from the HT end. |
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:39:58 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: then the wire will work harden and break Copper? |
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Richard Clark wrote: then the wire will work harden and break Copper? That's my experience, and a few minutes of Google-searching the Web comes up with numerous references stating that copper does suffer from work hardening after cold-deformation. The extent depends on the purity of the copper and on what other metals it has been alloyed with. [Lead is apparently one of the few metals not subject to work hardening.] This process can be reversed by annealing, but that's a bit tricky to do if the copper is already part of a coaxial cable :-) -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:33:36 GMT, Richard Clark
wrote: C'mon, now guys, let's worry about what is likely to break, not about everything that might fail. May as well take out an asteroid-collision policy. True. But a couple of weeks ago, March 18th, an asteroid about 100 feet in diameter missed the Earth by 26,500 miles. Better pay up the premiums on that policy. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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