Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 4:17 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
you obviously don't know the difference between speed and velocity and
how you can accelerate something without changing its speed. in any
case, if there were any kind of aether dragging or acceleration it
would cause shock or bow waves of compression in the aether at some
point that could be detected by variations in the speed of light in
different directions. this applies for earth dragging aether, or mr.
b's sun dragged aether.

It is so confusing, there are so many, let me see, you are the guy who
wants to purchase the bridge I have in brooklyn? Just send me the
check; We will go from there! :-)

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 4:06 AM, K1TTT wrote:

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no, sr is not necessary for propagation. and a dielectric is not
necessary for displacement current. nor is plasma necessary. you are
still very selective in your reading, a simple search shows that
stokes as well as all the other aether theories have been disproved
for nearly 100 years now.

You will go to any complexity, any obfuscation, any devious explanations
of enormous proportions ... it is easy to recognise befuddle confusion,
it looks just like all that BS.

When you get to the real explanation, it is simple, you will know its'
truth by the beauty of its' logic. The creator didn't construct all the
other parts of the universe thus, but when he got to the ether decided
to make it enormously complex ... you should be ashamed, your IQ is
showing ... what is the temperature of this room?

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 7:21 AM, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Sep 10, 7:12 pm, John wrote:
... I doubt if an either bubble can exist in "nothing" ...

That's exactly what I was trying to say. The quantum soup that we call
"empty space" within our bounded universe is not empty. Space within
our universe can never be absolutely empty and always contains at
least dark energy which comprises ~70% of our universe. It is
sometimes called zero-point energy, surrounds us, and allows us to
exist. From Wikipedia: "Zero-point energy is sometimes used as a
synonym for the vacuum energy, an amount of energy associated with the
vacuum of empty space. When the term is used in this way, sometimes it
is referred to as the quantum vacuum zero point energy." Absolute-
nothing, i.e. less than zero-point energy, is the complete absence of
any type of matter and energy. Space cannot exist within absolute-
nothing which is what makes parallel universes possible. Instead of
asserting that space contains dark (zero-point) energy, it would be
more correct to to assert that space is the *result* of the pressure
of dark (zero-point) energy, i.e. the quantum vacuum that we call
"empty space" is *caused* by the existence of zero point energy left
over from the big bang - also responsible for the present expansion of
the universe.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Got cha'. Close enough, I agree, we do agree ... we wear the same hat.
It is actually platinum foil, those fools over there think it is
tinfoil! ROFLOL

However, only logic and reason dictates the above, which you correctly
posted. If you believe in magic, bullets shoot from our antenna(s)
across an empty void ... and sugar plums dance on the heads of pins.

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On Sep 11, 2:58*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/11/2010 4:17 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
you obviously don't know the difference between speed and velocity and
how you can accelerate something without changing its speed. *in any
case, if there were any kind of aether dragging or acceleration it
would cause shock or bow waves of compression in the aether at some
point that could be detected by variations in the speed of light in
different directions. *this applies for earth dragging aether, or mr.
b's sun dragged aether.

It is so confusing, there are so many, let me see, you are the guy who
wants to purchase the bridge I have in brooklyn? *Just send me the
check; *We will go from there! *:-)

Regards,
JS

no, i am the one that uses real science to confuse mr.b and art by
pointing out reality. i already have enough bridges of my own to
maintain on my property.

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 8:31 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
no, i am the one that uses real science to confuse mr.b and art by
pointing out reality. i already have enough bridges of my own to
maintain on my property.

Yes, well gather all your self-important BS around you, along with those
you can impress with your cr*p ... and have at it ... I can safely
dismiss you as a malcontent and chit-stirrer.

Frankly, I will give you this, the benefit of the doubt: I am not sure
you are doing it intentionally, you could actually believe it.
None-the-less, it is still what it is ...

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On Sep 11, 3:36*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/11/2010 8:31 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
no, i am the one that uses real science to confuse mr.b and art by
pointing out reality. *i already have enough bridges of my own to
maintain on my property.

Yes, well gather all your self-important BS around you, along with those
you can impress with your cr*p ... and have at it ... I can safely
dismiss you as a malcontent and chit-stirrer.

Frankly, I will give you this, the benefit of the doubt: *I am not sure
you are doing it intentionally, you could actually believe it.
None-the-less, it is still what it is ...

Regards,
JS

of course i am doing it intentionally, stirring up art and mr.b is
just pure amusement. their science is pure junk, mr.b has been going
backwards in time for a while now dragging up ancient history that has
been well debunked. art just makes up technobabble based on whatever
he thinks he sees jumping off his antenna that day.

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 8:41 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
of course i am doing it intentionally, stirring up art and mr.b is
just pure amusement. their science is pure junk, mr.b has been going
backwards in time for a while now dragging up ancient history that has
been well debunked. art just makes up technobabble based on whatever
he thinks he sees jumping off his antenna that day.

You build your premises on card board with rube goldberg logic and
mechanics ... Einstein had to renege and accept the gravitational ether,
without it his relativity falls apart ... you waste my time and are
given to grandiose delusions ... you can't even recognize the
impossibility of your own argument(s.) But, you want me to take it
seriously ... I find that, a lot, but around people I usually choose to
avoid. Some think homosexual marriage is logical ... I have seen it all.

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On Sep 11, 3:46*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/11/2010 8:41 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
of course i am doing it intentionally, stirring up art and mr.b is
just pure amusement. *their science is pure junk, mr.b has been going
backwards in time for a while now dragging up ancient history that has
been well debunked. *art just makes up technobabble based on whatever
he thinks he sees jumping off his antenna that day.

You build your premises on card board with rube goldberg logic and
mechanics ... Einstein had to renege and accept the gravitational ether,
without it his relativity falls apart ... you waste my time and are
given to grandiose delusions ... you can't even recognize the
impossibility of your own argument(s.) *But, you want me to take it
seriously ... I find that, a lot, but around people I usually choose to
avoid. *Some think homosexual marriage is logical ... I have seen it all.

Regards,
JS

no, you must have me confused with someone else. i quote well
accepted engineering texts and journals. its art and mr.b that put
together rube goldberg theories to fit their latest whim.

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On 9/11/2010 9:11 AM, K1TTT wrote:

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no, you must have me confused with someone else. i quote well
accepted engineering texts and journals. its art and mr.b that put
together rube goldberg theories to fit their latest whim.

Yeah, you are like richard clark, you base beliefs and claim facts
depending on who states them, and proudly so, it is not the context of
the statement, it is who said it, the above is an excellent example, in
your own words. A million men can be wrong, just as easily as one ...
especially using the your method, above ... an echo chamber is not a
place to seek truth.

You probably think 9/11 wasn't an inside job too ...:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...102519299.html

There are your experts, engineers architects ...

Regards,
JS

Recognition of the Aether presence or not
 

On Sep 11, 3:46*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/11/2010 8:41 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
of course i am doing it intentionally, stirring up art and mr.b is
just pure amusement. *their science is pure junk, mr.b has been going
backwards in time for a while now dragging up ancient history that has
been well debunked. *art just makes up technobabble based on whatever
he thinks he sees jumping off his antenna that day.

You build your premises on card board with rube goldberg logic and
mechanics ... Einstein had to renege and accept the gravitational ether,
without it his relativity falls apart ... you waste my time and are
given to grandiose delusions ... you can't even recognize the
impossibility of your own argument(s.) *But, you want me to take it
seriously ... I find that, a lot, but around people I usually choose to
avoid. *Some think homosexual marriage is logical ... I have seen it all.

Regards,
JS

no, you must have me confused with someone else. i quote well
accepted engineering texts and journals. its art and mr.b that put
together rube goldberg theories to fit their latest whim.