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"Regular programming" is totally irrelevant to the question of the
"first experimental AM broadcast station."

It is when the question is about the first regular broadcast station,
not about one off experiments.



Technically, KDKA was the first of several already-extant stations to receive
a 'limited commercial' license.


OK, but the original claim wasn't "first limited commercial license;"
it was "first experimental AM broadcast station."

No, it was about the first 'proper' broadcast station. ie not one-off
demonstrations or experiments. ie one with a published and regular
schedule, and a general audience waiting to listen.

Jeff

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So first define "broadcasting".

Mine is a station with a license with a target of the general public and
a regular schedule.

But note the start of the quote "begin quotes
The question of the 'first' publicly-targeted licensed radio station in
the **U.S.**"

The Dutch beat the US to it!! with regular scheluled programmes from
PCGG starting in November 1919 a year KDKA.

Jeff

Which still makes the year 1919.




Yes, but not KDKA (in 1920)!


Jeff

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Jim Higgins wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:35:20 +0000, Jeff wrote:


"Regular programming" is totally irrelevant to the question of the
"first experimental AM broadcast station."

It is when the question is about the first regular broadcast station,
not about one off experiments.



Technically, KDKA was the first of several already-extant stations to receive
a 'limited commercial' license.


OK, but the original claim wasn't "first limited commercial license;"
it was "first experimental AM broadcast station."

No, it was about the first 'proper' broadcast station. ie not one-off
demonstrations or experiments. ie one with a published and regular
schedule, and a general audience waiting to listen.


The word "proper" was not a part of it. But then we can't see that
now because you've deleted the original wording.

Go out and ask 10 or 20 normal people what "broadcast radio" means.

Yes, the arguement is becoming one of semantics, but to most people "broadcast
radio" means radio transmissions for the general public on a regular,
scheduled basis.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Dec 28, 3:52*pm, wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:35:20 +0000, Jeff wrote:

"Regular programming" is totally irrelevant to the question of the
"first experimental AM broadcast station."

It is when the question is about the first regular broadcast station,
not about one off experiments.

Technically, KDKA was the first of several already-extant stations to receive
a 'limited commercial' license.

OK, but the original claim wasn't "first limited commercial license;"
it was "first experimental AM broadcast station."

No, it was about the first 'proper' broadcast station. ie not one-off
demonstrations or experiments. ie one with a published and regular
schedule, and a general audience waiting to listen.

The word "proper" was not a part of it. *But then we can't see that
now because you've deleted the original wording.

Go out and ask 10 or 20 normal people what "broadcast radio" means.

Yes, the arguement is becoming one of semantics, but to most people "broadcast
radio" means radio transmissions for the general public on a regular,
scheduled basis.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal
people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

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K1TTT wrote:
On Dec 28, 3:52Â*pm, wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:35:20 +0000, Jeff wrote:

"Regular programming" is totally irrelevant to the question of the
"first experimental AM broadcast station."

It is when the question is about the first regular broadcast station,
not about one off experiments.

Technically, KDKA was the first of several already-extant stations to receive
a 'limited commercial' license.

OK, but the original claim wasn't "first limited commercial license;"
it was "first experimental AM broadcast station."

No, it was about the first 'proper' broadcast station. ie not one-off
demonstrations or experiments. ie one with a published and regular
schedule, and a general audience waiting to listen.

The word "proper" was not a part of it. Â*But then we can't see that
now because you've deleted the original wording.

Go out and ask 10 or 20 normal people what "broadcast radio" means.

Yes, the arguement is becoming one of semantics, but to most people "broadcast
radio" means radio transmissions for the general public on a regular,
scheduled basis.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal
people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

I believe you are laboring under the false impression that mr.B is able to
think.



--
Jim Pennino

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"K1TTT" wrote
...

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal
people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

Here you a

Look at the damped waves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's animation:
http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is the
physics law.

So I do not think. I am sure.
I only want you find out proper evidences. It should be interesting to you.
S*

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On Dec 28, 5:47*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal

people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

Here you a

Look at the damped waves:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's animation:http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is the
physics law.

So I do not think. I am sure.
I only want you find out proper evidences. It should be interesting to you.
S*

electromagnetic waves are not solitons. speed of an em wave is not
amplitude dependent, that is a physics law.

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Dec 28, 5:47 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
"K1TTT"
...

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal

people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

Here you a

Look at the damped waves:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's
animation:http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is
the
physics law.

So I do not think. I am sure.
I only want you find out proper evidences. It should be interesting to
you.
S*

electromagnetic waves are not solitons. speed of an em wave is not
amplitude dependent, that is a physics law.

Yes. But EM waves are Heaviside's paper waves. In rality are Tesla's waves.
Do not be lazy and look for evidences.
S*

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On Dec 28, 5:46*pm, wrote:
K1TTT wrote:
On Dec 28, 3:52*pm, wrote:
Jim Higgins wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:35:20 +0000, Jeff wrote:

"Regular programming" is totally irrelevant to the question of the
"first experimental AM broadcast station."

It is when the question is about the first regular broadcast station,
not about one off experiments.

Technically, KDKA was the first of several already-extant stations to receive
a 'limited commercial' license.

OK, but the original claim wasn't "first limited commercial license;"
it was "first experimental AM broadcast station."

No, it was about the first 'proper' broadcast station. ie not one-off
demonstrations or experiments. ie one with a published and regular
schedule, and a general audience waiting to listen.

The word "proper" was not a part of it. *But then we can't see that
now because you've deleted the original wording.

Go out and ask 10 or 20 normal people what "broadcast radio" means.

Yes, the arguement is becoming one of semantics, but to most people "broadcast
radio" means radio transmissions for the general public on a regular,
scheduled basis.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal
people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

I believe you are laboring under the false impression that mr.B is able to
think.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

i don't care if he can think, as long as he is mildly amusing.

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On Dec 28, 6:08*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Dec 28, 5:47 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



"K1TTT"
...

be sure NOT to ask in here, since we are obviously not normal

people.... i'm more interested in how mr.B thinks sidebands are
distance dependent than what broadcast radio is.

Here you a

Look at the damped waves:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's
animation:http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave.."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is
the
physics law.

So I do not think. I am sure.
I only want you find out proper evidences. It should be interesting to
you.
S*
electromagnetic waves are not solitons. *speed of an em wave is not

amplitude dependent, that is a physics law.

Yes. But EM waves are Heaviside's paper waves. In rality are Tesla's waves.
Do not be lazy and look for evidences.
S*

There is no 'evidences' for that. Maxwell's equations describe EM
waves perfectly well, have been verified by experiments for over 100
years, and work fine for me.