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To him, an EM wave, a sound wave, a water wave, and a female member of the
Navy in 1944 are all the same thing.

You do not read my posts.
To me an radio wave, a sound wave, a water wave, are all the same thing.
S*

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On Dec 29, 5:22*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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On Dec 29, 11:09 am, Jeff wrote:



On 28/12/2010 17:47, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Look at the damped waves: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's animation:
*http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is
the physics law.

He was talking about surface waves on water!!!!!

Jeff

similar, he was referring to an article on solitons which were first
observed on water... but which bear no resemblance to EM waves.

Yes. But it bear resemblance to ELECTRIC waves.
S*

Give me the equations for an 'electric wave'.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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To him, an EM wave, a sound wave, a water wave, and a female member of the
Navy in 1944 are all the same thing.

You do not read my posts.
To me an radio wave, a sound wave, a water wave, are all the same thing.
S*

And you are an idiot for thinking that.

They all share SOME properties, but they are three different things.


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On Dec 29, 9:17 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Biot-Savart and Heaviside made the very simple model. So simple that it
was
choosen to teach the math.
Read at 1825:
http://www.fisica.edu.uy/cursos/elec...ial/A_Brief_Hi...

It is unfortunate that you do not know the electrDYNAMICS by Ampere and
Maxwell.
It should be interesting to you.
Maxwell did not write "Maxwell's equations".
S*

Maxwell's equations include Ampere's law,

It has name "Amperes law". It is Biot-Savart law with the displacement
current added by Maxwell.

Faraday's law, and Gauss's
law... so all the dynamics and statics are included. According to my
history the set of 4 equations was first written by Maxwell in 1863,
though in a different form than they are customarily seen today.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations

"Maxwell's equations are named after the Scottish physicist and
mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, since they are all found in a four-part
paper, On Physical Lines of Force, which he published between 1861 and 1862.
The mathematical form of the Lorentz force law also appeared in this paper."

" (As noted above, this terminology is not common: Modern references to the
term "Maxwell's equations" refer to the Heaviside restatements.)"

In Maxwell's paper were 20 equations to describe this model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mo...rtex_Model.jpg

There are the cross section of the magnetic lines of force. They rotate but
nothing is flowing along them. The rotations rotate the plane of light
polarisation inside of the solenoid.

In Heaviside's "restatement" something flow along the lines and they do not
rotate.

Take a glance at: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Phy...Lines_of_Force
Excelent English. Perfect physics.
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Dec 29, 11:09 am, Jeff wrote:
On 28/12/2010 17:47, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Look at the damped waves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damped_wave

They are like the AM.

Next look at Mr. Russell's animation:
http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/.../solitons.html

He wrote: "a.. The speed of the wave depends on the height of the wave."

The speed of the disturbance in media is the amplitude dependent - it is
the physics law.

He was talking about surface waves on water!!!!!

Jeff

similar, he was referring to an article on solitons which were first
observed on water... but which bear no resemblance to EM waves.

Yes. But it bear resemblance to ELECTRIC waves.
S*

This should be good...

Tell us what is an "electric wave" that isn't a part of an "elecromagnetic
wave".


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

It has name "Amperes law". It is Biot-Savart law with the displacement
current added by Maxwell.

Faraday's law, and Gauss's
law... so all the dynamics and statics are included. According to my
history the set of 4 equations was first written by Maxwell in 1863,
though in a different form than they are customarily seen today.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations

"Maxwell's equations are named after the Scottish physicist and
mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, since they are all found in a four-part
paper, On Physical Lines of Force, which he published between 1861 and 1862.
The mathematical form of the Lorentz force law also appeared in this paper."

Oh goody, you can cut and paste from a web page.

Too bad you don't know what any of what you quoted means.

" (As noted above, this terminology is not common: Modern references to the
term "Maxwell's equations" refer to the Heaviside restatements.)"

In Maxwell's paper were 20 equations to describe this model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mo...rtex_Model.jpg

There are the cross section of the magnetic lines of force. They rotate but
nothing is flowing along them. The rotations rotate the plane of light
polarisation inside of the solenoid.

Pure, babbling, word salad gibberish.

The Moleculare Vortex Model refers to magnetic fields, not electromagnetic
fields and there is no light of any polarizatin inside a solenoid.


In Heaviside's "restatement" something flow along the lines and they do not
rotate.

Take a glance at: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Phy...Lines_of_Force
Excelent English. Perfect physics.
S*

What a buffoon.

You haven't a clue what any of your referenced links mean.





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On Dec 29, 6:41*pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
It has name "Amperes law". It is Biot-Savart law with the displacement
current added by Maxwell.

Faraday's law, and Gauss's
law... so all the dynamics and statics are included. *According to my
history the set of 4 equations was first written by Maxwell in 1863,
though in a different form than they are customarily seen today.

See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations

"Maxwell's equations are named after the Scottish physicist and
mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, since they are all found in a four-part
paper, On Physical Lines of Force, which he published between 1861 and 1862.
The mathematical form of the Lorentz force law also appeared in this paper."

Oh goody, you can cut and paste from a web page.

Too bad you don't know what any of what you quoted means.

" (As noted above, this terminology is not common: Modern references to the
term "Maxwell's equations" refer to the Heaviside restatements.)"

In Maxwell's paper *were 20 equations to describe this model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mo...rtex_Model.jpg

There are the cross section of the magnetic lines of force. They rotate but
nothing is flowing along them. The rotations rotate the plane of light
polarisation inside of the solenoid.

Pure, babbling, word salad gibberish.

The Moleculare Vortex Model refers to magnetic fields, not electromagnetic
fields and there is no light of any polarizatin inside a solenoid.

In Heaviside's "restatement" something flow along the lines and they do not
rotate.

Take a glance at:http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Phy...Lines_of_Force
Excelent English. Perfect physics.
S*

What a buffoon.

You haven't a clue what any of your referenced links mean.

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Jim Pennino

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not only that but the reference is an article from a magazine
published years before the completed set of Maxwell's equations were
first published. During those years there were many changes in the
understanding of electricity and magnetism and EM waves... not that
the initial publication of Maxwell's equations completely converted
those who had different viewpoints, obviously aetherists and adherents
to other old and disproved theories still exist despite 150 years of
experiments that have failed to damage Maxwell's equations.

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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:56:30 -0000, wrote:

To him, an EM wave, a sound wave, a water wave, and a female member of the
Navy in 1944 are all the same thing.

You forgot stadium wave.


Please, God, let this Subject: die!

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On Dec 29, 7:04*pm, Allodoxaphobia
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:56:30 -0000, wrote:

To him, an EM wave, a sound wave, a water wave, and a female member of the
Navy in 1944 are all the same thing.

You forgot stadium wave.

Please, God, let this Subject: die!

no, keep it going! its still good for at least a few more laughs
before mr.b gives up again.

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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Dec 29, 6:41 pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

In Heaviside's "restatement" something flow along the lines and they do
not
rotate.

Take a glance at:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_Phy...Lines_of_Force
Excelent English. Perfect physics.
S*

What a buffoon.

You haven't a clue what any of your referenced links mean.

--
Jim Pennino
not only that but the reference is an article from a magazine
published years before the completed set of Maxwell's equations were
first published. During those years there were many changes in the
understanding of electricity and magnetism and EM waves... not that
the initial publication of Maxwell's equations completely converted
those who had different viewpoints, obviously aetherists and adherents
to other old and disproved theories still exist despite 150 years of
experiments that have failed to damage Maxwell's equations.

See at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co...Dawes_1920.png

There is shown the magnetic flux (Heaviside). Tell me which physical law
produce it (the hand rule is not a physical law).

Now see at Maxwell's model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mo...rtex_Model.jpg

There the curent in the solenoid physically rotate the magnetic lines of
force.

So " During those years there were many changes in the understanding of
electricity and magnetism" and the hand rule becomes a physical law.
S*