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On 2/8/2012 8:52 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two
2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db.
(or 4) and it did make a difference.

Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end
properly terminated?



Cable installers terminating things? You must be bleeping joking.
They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that.


Which would obviously be considerably greater than yours.

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:44:08 -0500, "
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:52:10 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), Mark wrote:



Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two
2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db.
(or 4) and it did make a difference.

Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end
properly terminated?



Cable installers terminating things? You must be ****ing joking.
They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that.


*WAY* above your pay grade.


I know about "cable trash" cable installers that used to go around to
different cities, working for different cable companies. I know what
corners they cut, and what responsibilities they shirk off. I know the
difference between them and me. It is way below my pay grade and way
above YOURS. Compared to you, I am the FADM, and you don't even rate 4-F.
Take your stupidity back to your left hand, putz!

I post-wired thousands of ports, and that was over 30 years ago, you
****ing retarded twit. I have done 350' runs through the woods when they
were unable to get the hard line trucks into the area. That's what
happens when the Bengals GM has his house all the way back in the corner
of an Indian Hills cul de sac. Mr Brown was a big dude too. There were
deep wear tracks in his carpet where the big ****er roamed. Outside the
tracks, it looked new.

Did lots of pre-wire too. Worked for General Instrument for the first
year I was out here in Ca as well. That was almost twenty years ago,
asswipe. I was performing instruction for them by the time I left.
The gear FEEDS the cable companies, AND the broadcasters.

You lose. As usual... again.
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However, if you happen to have an tuneable notch filter
(which I happen to have),


Are you left handed? :-) (It's a movie joke)
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:17:05 -0600, tom wrote:

On 2/8/2012 8:52 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two
2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db.
(or 4) and it did make a difference.

Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end
properly terminated?



Cable installers terminating things? You must be bleeping joking.
They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that.


Which would obviously be considerably greater than yours.

tom
K0TAR


Said the *TOTAL* ****ing retard who doesn't know me, or a goddamned
thing about me.

I did more last week to make the world a batter place than a putz like
you ever has or ever will in your entire, pathetic life.

And it was ALL absolutely telecommunications related.

Yeah, yer battin' 1000 there bub. NOT!

I'd bet cash at Vegas that you've never even seen what a 10Gb/s optical
port looks like, much less anything about its operation.

The only thing about "10" you have familiarity with is YOUR IQ.

You must be some cable trash asswipe residential hole popper
"installer" wanna be ****tard.

Yeah, you got the ****tard part right. Fits you to a "T".

Stick that up you TAR, K0 boy! You ****ING RETARD! FOAD!


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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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snip

Time to call the cable company and tell them you want your MTV.



No way to know from here, but they may not be able to add another amp.

While I was looking for something else, I lurched into this page:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/cable/ps2217/products_white_paper0900aecd800fc94c.shtml

While its intended audience is Internet modem designers, the noise
discussions are informative with regard to other signals, too.

My point: When you try stringing too many amps in line, the signal-to-noise
ratio (SNR) eventually becomes unacceptable. (Remember the acceptable SNRs
cited for 256 QAM and 64 QAM.)

"Sal"


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"Sal" wrote in message ...
My point: When you try stringing too many amps in line, the
signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) eventually becomes unacceptable. (Remember
the acceptable SNRs cited for 256 QAM and 64 QAM.)

"Sal"


Sorry. I should have said carrier to noise ratio (CNR), not SNR. SNR
applies to post-detection signals. i joined the digital world late in life.

"Sal"



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amdx wrote:
Hi All,
I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post.
Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of
Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture.
I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I
suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable
company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At
this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the
utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the
cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap.
That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the
signal to work 100% of the time.
I don't has access to electricity at the utility post, so an amp is
out. Although I could try an amp at the cable box end. Is that reasonable?
I would run two cables if there was a way to make it increase signal
strength.
Getting anymore from the cable company is not an option.
Any ideas to get a better signal?
Mikek


PS.

When the signal fails it seems channel 41 is ok and above 42 it breaks up.
Curious to know if there is an unusual frequency jump between those two
digital channels.

Well, you could add an amplifier at the splitter where (nominally)
there is no power.
Use the coax center conductor for power; inline capacitors allow
signal to pass and feeding center via small choke allows DC but no signal.
Once upon a time there were little adapters that did this AC/DC thing...
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In message , Jeff Liebermann
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Something is wrong. The nominal signal from the cable drop is suppose
to be 0dBm. If there's a splitter involved, they like to crank it up
to about 10dBm.


Careful! Don't get your dBm mixed up with your dBmV. There's around 48dB
difference! 0dBm is a massive 48dBmV. That would certainly make most
set-top boxes wake up and pay attention!



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