On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:38:13 -0600, amdx wrote:

On 2/9/2012 8:44 AM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:12:15 +0000, Pomegranate *******
wrote:

Would you please supply some evidence of your claims?

You don't even know what a 10Gb/s optical port looks like either,
jackass.

You are truly pathetic, and a total loser.

The only response a retard like you knows is "stalk and jab".

Hey Rat,

Hey jerk off!

Please quietly leave my thread!

This is NOT *your* anything, you retarded ****. You have ZERO
ownership of anything here in Usenet, you ****ing total retard.

Thanks, Mikek

**** you, jackoff. Please die and quit wasting oxygen.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:56:35 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Makes you wonder what they paid him for at Time Warner, if he wasn't
smart enough to install a terminator.


I was fine you ****ing retard. Learn to read. My remarks were about
the ****tards all around me, not myself. I actually learned about what
things one does NOT do as a cable installer, and cutting corners on
policy was high on the list.

Makes me wonder why anyone would have ever paid a retarded presumptuous
asswipe like you, if you cannot even read a simple Usenet post.

On 2/9/2012 7:22 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:38:13 -0600, wrote:

On 2/9/2012 8:44 AM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:12:15 +0000, Pomegranate *******
wrote:

Would you please supply some evidence of your claims?

You don't even know what a 10Gb/s optical port looks like either,
jackass.

You are truly pathetic, and a total loser.

The only response a retard like you knows is "stalk and jab".

Hey Rat,

Hey jerk off!

Please quietly leave my thread!

This is NOT *your* anything, you retarded ****. You have ZERO
ownership of anything here in Usenet, you ****ing total retard.


Oh darn, that didn't work. :-)


**** you, jackoff. Please die and quit wasting oxygen.



Have a nice day, I'm sure you deserve it.

Mikek

On 2/8/2012 11:38 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:20:13 -0600, wrote:

On 2/8/2012 9:44 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:52:10 -0800, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two
2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db.
(or 4) and it did make a difference.

Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end
properly terminated?



Cable installers terminating things? You must be ****ing joking.
They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that.

*WAY* above your pay grade.

Sorry I posted mine before I updated inbound posts and saw yours.

Yours is better.

tom
K0TAR

More mental masturbation. You must be a mere ****ing cable installer.

Bwuahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa!

You and the KiethKeithStain are nothing more than mental masturbating
dumb****s. Yer gonna get TARred and feathered, K0 boy.

Nice to have amusing idiots back again.

And I am way above your paygrade. But that is obvious to anyone that
graduated any grade, even first, which you obviously have not.

tom
K0TAR

On 2/8/2012 11:35 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:17:05 -0600, wrote:

On 2/8/2012 8:52 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Just a point. I may not have made it clear. I had the tech put in two
2way splitters and connect me to the first one. Hoping to gain 3db.
(or 4) and it did make a difference.

Where does the other leg of that splitter go to? And is that end
properly terminated?



Cable installers terminating things? You must be bleeping joking.
They would have to have an IQ above 25 for that.


Which would obviously be considerably greater than yours.

tom
K0TAR

Said the *TOTAL* ****ing retard who doesn't know me, or a goddamned
thing about me.

I did more last week to make the world a batter place than a putz like
you ever has or ever will in your entire, pathetic life.

And it was ALL absolutely telecommunications related.

Yeah, yer battin' 1000 there bub. NOT!

I'd bet cash at Vegas that you've never even seen what a 10Gb/s optical
port looks like, much less anything about its operation.

The only thing about "10" you have familiarity with is YOUR IQ.

You must be some cable trash asswipe residential hole popper
"installer" wanna be ****tard.

Yeah, you got the ****tard part right. Fits you to a "T".

Stick that up you TAR, K0 boy! You ****ING RETARD! FOAD!

Interesting how little you bother to learn about the people you swear
at. At least I can put a sentence together.

And I was leading 10M$ engineering projects while you were installing cable.

There is nothing you can spout that would denigrate me.

tom
K0TAR

On 2/8/2012 11:35 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:

K0TAR

Said the *TOTAL* ****ing retard who doesn't know me, or a goddamned
thing about me.

I did more last week to make the world a batter place than a putz like
you ever has or ever will in your entire, pathetic life.

And it was ALL absolutely telecommunications related.

Yeah, yer battin' 1000 there bub. NOT!

I'd bet cash at Vegas that you've never even seen what a 10Gb/s optical
port looks like, much less anything about its operation.

The only thing about "10" you have familiarity with is YOUR IQ.

You must be some cable trash asswipe residential hole popper
"installer" wanna be ****tard.

Yeah, you got the ****tard part right. Fits you to a "T".

Stick that up you TAR, K0 boy! You ****ING RETARD! FOAD!

You seem to be trying to compensate for some serious low self esteem
issues. I'd suggest you get some professional help.

tom
K0TAR

On 2/8/2012 11:35 PM, The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra wrote:

Said the *TOTAL* ****ing retard who doesn't know me, or a goddamned
thing about me.

I did more last week to make the world a batter place than a putz like
you ever has or ever will in your entire, pathetic life.

And it was ALL absolutely telecommunications related.

Yeah, yer battin' 1000 there bub. NOT!

I'd bet cash at Vegas that you've never even seen what a 10Gb/s optical
port looks like, much less anything about its operation.

The only thing about "10" you have familiarity with is YOUR IQ.

You must be some cable trash asswipe residential hole popper
"installer" wanna be ****tard.

Yeah, you got the ****tard part right. Fits you to a "T".

Stick that up you TAR, K0 boy! You ****ING RETARD! FOAD!

I was lead at the first fiber campus install in the US. 1985.

Top that pal.

You got nothin.

tom
K0TAR

On 2/9/2012 9:18 PM, tom wrote:

I was lead at the first fiber campus install in the US. 1985.

And that would be college campus. Don't know about other types.

tom
K0TAR

Joerg wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
amdx wrote:
Hi All,
I'm on a boat, about 170ft from the utility post.
Recently our cable company switched to the wonderful world of
Digital TV. I got the new digital converter and had no picture.
I took the box back and got a second box, still no picture. So now I
suspect a weak signal and confirm that it is the cable length. The cable
company came out and gave me a better cable than I had installed. At
this point I have a picture but it is intermittent. The signal at the
utility post has 3 outputs and had a four way splitter, I suggested the
cable guy put in two 2 way splitters and give me the stronger (first) tap.
That got my signal to work almost all the time. I'd like to get the
signal to work 100% of the time.
Looks like the cable guys screwed up.


In your opinion.

If their company cable box doesn't deliver a useful and reliable signal
I call that screwed up. One pays for a service and expects to either get
it delivered as promised or money back.

... If they are delivering the level called for in
their franchise, they didn't screw up. It has always been up to the
customer to pay for or provide extra equipment for non standard
installs.


Mike's install does not sound non-standard. 170ft cable drop towards
premises which is fairly normal, plus the cable company's set-top box.


Grow up. That is an excessive length drop. A standard drop is under
100 feet. You think you know everything, and that the world has to live
by your rules. You don't, and it doesn't. I'll bet you've never even
seen a CATV franchise, or the dozen of pages of specifications agreed to
by both the CATV company and the local government. The CATV company
isn't a Santa Clause machine, and local governments know why there are
limits to the service provided. If there were't, no one could afford to
build or operate a CATV system. You've never designed a headend, or a
physical plant If they build to supply higher port levels, it has to
start at the headend, and requires closer spaced trunk amplifers. The
system noise goes up from all of the cascaded amplifers, and the
equipment runs hotter, withj a very reduced service life. When you can
design an RF distribution system of more than 500 MHz bandwidth and has
over 10,000 output ports, with the gain stabilized to a couple dBmv 20
miles from the headend and over a range from sub zero F to + 100 F then
you can tell me I'm wrong.

One headend I designed and built was only off by .1 dBmv at the test
port on the first trunk amp which was a half mile from the head end. If
you can do better than that, I'll listen to you and your opinions


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

On 2/9/2012 9:35 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Grow up. That is an excessive length drop. A standard drop is under
100 feet. You think you know everything, and that the world has to live
by your rules. You don't, and it doesn't. I'll bet you've never even
seen a CATV franchise, or the dozen of pages of specifications agreed to
by both the CATV company and the local government. The CATV company
isn't a Santa Clause machine, and local governments know why there are
limits to the service provided. If there were't, no one could afford to
build or operate a CATV system. You've never designed a headend, or a
physical plant If they build to supply higher port levels, it has to
start at the headend, and requires closer spaced trunk amplifers. The
system noise goes up from all of the cascaded amplifers, and the
equipment runs hotter, withj a very reduced service life. When you can
design an RF distribution system of more than 500 MHz bandwidth and has
over 10,000 output ports, with the gain stabilized to a couple dBmv 20
miles from the headend and over a range from sub zero F to + 100 F then
you can tell me I'm wrong.

One headend I designed and built was only off by .1 dBmv at the test
port on the first trunk amp which was a half mile from the head end. If
you can do better than that, I'll listen to you and your opinions



Cool! You seem to know what you are up to.

Can you put rough numbers around what you mentioned? Like what are
providers legally required to deliver at the far end of the drop?

Thanks.

tom
K0TAR