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Old July 23rd 12, 06:20 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On Monday, July 23, 2012 2:37:23 AM UTC-5, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The Giants discovered in XIX century that light is the oscillatory flow
of

electrons.


But that has since been proved not to be a fact, i.e. their theory has been
disproved. Just as Issac Newton's discoveries were a little off, so were
the "Giants" about which you speak. In RF conductors, electrons do
oscillate but they are much too slow to "flow".


They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.

I can crawl on my knees faster than electrons flow in a wire and that has
been proved by actual measurements. The RF fields/waves that are flowing
around a conductor at the speed of light are photons like the ones you are
using to read this screen, just at a different frequency. When you realize
what is the nature of the thing that is incident upon your retina, you
will understand EM radiation.


In textbooks are Heaviside's and Pointing's EM. Are They Giants?

But there are plenty of theories. Which one is the best?


The one that agrees with the latest experimental measurements. Einstein's
theory that gravity curves space was just a theory until proved valid by
actual experimental measurements. The CERN Large Hadron Collider is
providing actual experimental measurements as we speak. If the measurements
disagree with the Standard Model, we will have to change the Standard
Model.


Hertz did the experimental measurements of waves from the dipole
(polarisation, refraction etc.)
Do you know something about the Marconi antenna?

To have knowledge means know the facts not theories.


We will probably never know all the "facts" - the best we can do is become
less ignorant. All of our models of reality exist in human minds filtered
through human senses none of which are perfect. For instance, entangled
particles seem to violate the spirit of the speed of light limit, yet they
have been proved to exist by experiments. And how is it possible for a huge
carbon Buckyball to pass through two slots at the same time and interfere
with itself on the other side? Seems to me that the particle is creating a
wavefront in the structure of space.


The best models are the ones that best match the latest experimental
evidence. Some of yours do not match the latest experimental evidence at
all, i.e. seems that you are deliberately choosing to remain ignorant (or
just pulling our legs).


The papers of Giants are now available. Try to compare the papers by
Heaviside-Pointing and Dirac.
Dirac was an engineer so he was tought on Heaviside-Pointing's EM. Dirac
never even mentioned EM.

Ia trying to pull you from the textbooks (where all is simplified) to the
paper of Giants.
S*


 
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