Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.


--
Jim Pennino

On 1/28/2014 9:57 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.



ROFLMAO! Before Arpanet, there was NOTHING. Usenet didn't exist! It
functioned over Arpanet.

Caught you in another lie.


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Jerry Stuckle

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:57 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.



ROFLMAO! Before Arpanet, there was NOTHING. Usenet didn't exist! It
functioned over Arpanet.

Caught you in another lie.

Sorry, wrong answer Mr Expert At Everything.

USENET news was originally distributed via UUCP and dial up modems.

The first USENET connection to the ARPANET was through UC Berkley in 1980.

It wasn't until the late 80's that USENET started to migrate away from
UUCP and modems to NNTP and network links.

FWIW, I was a UUCP leaf node in the early 80's.



--
Jim Pennino

On 1/28/2014 11:32 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:57 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.



ROFLMAO! Before Arpanet, there was NOTHING. Usenet didn't exist! It
functioned over Arpanet.

Caught you in another lie.

Sorry, wrong answer Mr Expert At Everything.

USENET news was originally distributed via UUCP and dial up modems.

The first USENET connection to the ARPANET was through UC Berkley in 1980.

It wasn't until the late 80's that USENET started to migrate away from
UUCP and modems to NNTP and network links.

FWIW, I was a UUCP leaf node in the early 80's.




Wrong answer. Usenet was started under ARPANET in the early to mid
70's. Before that ARPANET was used mainly for email and ftp. The email
evolved into email lists, but something more was needed, which lead to
the forerunners of NNTP servers.

These were very basic; really not much more than an open email reader.
No threading, for instance. But it served its purpose in that it
allowed people to post a message and have it retrieved. Later came some
niceties such as threading.

You may have accessed it via a modem, but those of us who were on
ARPANET had direct access to it.


--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle

==================

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:32 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:57 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.



ROFLMAO! Before Arpanet, there was NOTHING. Usenet didn't exist! It
functioned over Arpanet.

Caught you in another lie.

Sorry, wrong answer Mr Expert At Everything.

USENET news was originally distributed via UUCP and dial up modems.

The first USENET connection to the ARPANET was through UC Berkley in 1980.

It wasn't until the late 80's that USENET started to migrate away from
UUCP and modems to NNTP and network links.

FWIW, I was a UUCP leaf node in the early 80's.




Wrong answer. Usenet was started under ARPANET in the early to mid
70's. Before that ARPANET was used mainly for email and ftp. The email
evolved into email lists, but something more was needed, which lead to
the forerunners of NNTP servers.

You have that exactly backward.

USENET started on dial up modem and as I said the first "network" connection
was through UC Berkley which had both. It took almost a decade for USENET
to transition to primarily network feeds.

These were very basic; really not much more than an open email reader.
No threading, for instance. But it served its purpose in that it
allowed people to post a message and have it retrieved. Later came some
niceties such as threading.

Pure babble.

You may have accessed it via a modem, but those of us who were on
ARPANET had direct access to it.

Yeah, after USENET had been around for years and years.



--
Jim Pennino

On 1/29/2014 11:05 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:32 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:57 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 4:29 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:35 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:55 PM, W5DXP wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:11:13 AM UTC-6, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
You don't need my permission to stop trolling.

If it was a troll, it was for a good cause. Just consider yourself to
have been Elmered in reasonable, ethical behavior. The rest is up to you.


Trolls always think they're in the right.

Pot, kettle, black.




Ah, yes, another well-known troll (in multiple newsgroups) has to have
his say. Have you EVER added ANYTHING positive to a usenet
conversation? In ANY newsgroup?

I didn't think so.

Yes, I positively believe you are an argumentative crumongeon.

And FYI I know for a fact several of the people you have been calling
uneducated and refuse to get off your high horse and have an actual
discussion do have BSEE degrees.



And you never answered my question - because you NEVER have added
anything positive to ANY usenet conversation.

And I have yet to see anyone who has claimed they have a BSEE degree.
Please show me where they said that.

No one said it anywhere in recent posts, but obviously I have been
reading these groups a LOT longer than you have.


How can that be when you've shown you can't read?

FYI, I've probably been reading these newsgroups a LOT longer than you.
I quit a few years ago because of trolls like you.

Please feel free to quit again.

Have you been reading them since the 1970's? They were around even back
then when it was known as arpanet. And back then we didn't have trolls.

Yes, I have been and when I started reading them there was no arpanet.

And back then argumentative crumongeons like you would have had their
UUNET node blacklisted as wasting bandwidth.



ROFLMAO! Before Arpanet, there was NOTHING. Usenet didn't exist! It
functioned over Arpanet.

Caught you in another lie.

Sorry, wrong answer Mr Expert At Everything.

USENET news was originally distributed via UUCP and dial up modems.

The first USENET connection to the ARPANET was through UC Berkley in 1980.

It wasn't until the late 80's that USENET started to migrate away from
UUCP and modems to NNTP and network links.

FWIW, I was a UUCP leaf node in the early 80's.




Wrong answer. Usenet was started under ARPANET in the early to mid
70's. Before that ARPANET was used mainly for email and ftp. The email
evolved into email lists, but something more was needed, which lead to
the forerunners of NNTP servers.

You have that exactly backward.

USENET started on dial up modem and as I said the first "network" connection
was through UC Berkley which had both. It took almost a decade for USENET
to transition to primarily network feeds.

These were very basic; really not much more than an open email reader.
No threading, for instance. But it served its purpose in that it
allowed people to post a message and have it retrieved. Later came some
niceties such as threading.

Pure babble.

You may have accessed it via a modem, but those of us who were on
ARPANET had direct access to it.

Yeah, after USENET had been around for years and years.


You have no idea what you are talking about. Usenet hadn't "been around
for years and years" like you claim. Where's your proof?

But then trolls will claim anything, even without proof.

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Jerry, AI0K

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Usenet hadn't "been around
for years and years" like you claim. Where's your proof?

"Usenet is a worldwide distributed Internet discussion system. It was
developed from the general purpose UUCP dial-up network architecture."

"Usenet is one of the oldest computer network communications systems
still in widespread use."

"It was originally built on the "poor man's ARPANET," employing UUCP as
its transport protocol to offer mail and file transfers, as well as
announcements through the newly developed news software such as A News."

"Usenet was connected to ARPANET through UC Berkeley which had
connections to both Usenet and ARPANET."

"By 1983, the number of UUCP hosts had grown to 550, nearly doubling to
940 in 1984."

"Since the Internet boom of the 1990s, almost all Usenet distribution is
over NNTP."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Or you can find the same thing at:

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag/node256.html
http://www.giganews.com/usenet-history/origins.html

Among other places.

But then trolls will claim anything, even without proof.

Self declared experts at everything hate it when it is pointed out to
them they are wrong.




--
Jim Pennino