John Smith wrote:
Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?

Mine has always been "Flatland". It helps to understand that
we are trapped on this three dimensional surface and have
difficulty comprehending where we would be if we could leave
it behind.
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John Smith wrote:
After the big bang, I am assuming (I know, that's bad) that somewhere, just
by the design of "probability laws", that a pulsar was able to form, rather
quickly (few billion years?)--and began emitting...

If so, why have we NOT heard a bounce from the "shielding" (end of the
universe)?

The edge of the universe is more than 12.5 billion light years
away, beyond our visible horizon. The early inflationary period
caused the expansion of space to outrun the speed of light.
Maybe in another 20 billion years, we will hear the bounce.
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Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that translates
directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of distance... even
thought the echo of the big bang itself may have subsided, I just cannot
believe we can't hear bounces of other signals (signals which cannot be
accounted for)...

Warmest regards,
John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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| John Smith wrote:
| After the big bang, I am assuming (I know, that's bad) that somewhere,
just
| by the design of "probability laws", that a pulsar was able to form,
rather
| quickly (few billion years?)--and began emitting...
|
| If so, why have we NOT heard a bounce from the "shielding" (end of the
| universe)?
|
| The edge of the universe is more than 12.5 billion light years
| away, beyond our visible horizon. The early inflationary period
| caused the expansion of space to outrun the speed of light.
| Maybe in another 20 billion years, we will hear the bounce.
| --
| 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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Cecil:

Are you a follower of Dr. Michio Kaku? I think I remember reading a paper
by him--he seems to have already accepted a multi-dimensional universe.

It would explain why we have not heard the aliens, they are in another
dimension! (Is that kinda like, "On another frequency?" grin)



Regards,
John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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| John Smith wrote:
| Any ideas, or models which you can find to build a "mental model" from?
|
| Mine has always been "Flatland". It helps to understand that
| we are trapped on this three dimensional surface and have
| difficulty comprehending where we would be if we could leave
| it behind.
| --
| 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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John Smith wrote:
Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that translates
directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of distance... even
thought the echo of the big bang itself may have subsided, I just cannot
believe we can't hear bounces of other signals (signals which cannot be
accounted for)...

How is it possible for portions of this universe to be
eight times older than the Big Bang which occurred
about 12.5 billion years ago?
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John Smith wrote:
Are you a follower of Dr. Michio Kaku? I think I remember reading a paper
by him--he seems to have already accepted a multi-dimensional universe.

My history reference on multiple dimensions is, "The Tenth
Dimension", by Jeremy Bernstein. He doesn't mention Dr. Kaku.
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Ahhh, you have me on my use of words...
Let me re-phrase, "Portions of this universe (as heavely bodies) came into
existance over 100 billion years ago..."

Warmest regards,
John

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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| John Smith wrote:
| Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that
translates
| directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of distance... even
| thought the echo of the big bang itself may have subsided, I just cannot
| believe we can't hear bounces of other signals (signals which cannot be
| accounted for)...
|
| How is it possible for portions of this universe to be
| eight times older than the Big Bang which occurred
| about 12.5 billion years ago?
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| 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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Cecil Moore wrote:

John Smith wrote:

Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that
translates directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of
distance... even thought the echo of the big bang itself may have
subsided, I just cannot believe we can't hear bounces of other signals
(signals which cannot be accounted for)...


How is it possible for portions of this universe to be
eight times older than the Big Bang which occurred
about 12.5 billion years ago?

What came (or went) before the Big Bang?

- Mike KB3EIA -

I missed that!!!
Where is the 12.5 billion year age of the universe given, I will recheck,
but the universe is much older...
You sure that is not the age of our galaxy?

Regards,
John

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| Cecil Moore wrote:
|
| John Smith wrote:
|
| Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that
| translates directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of
| distance... even thought the echo of the big bang itself may have
| subsided, I just cannot believe we can't hear bounces of other signals
| (signals which cannot be accounted for)...
|
|
| How is it possible for portions of this universe to be
| eight times older than the Big Bang which occurred
| about 12.5 billion years ago?
|
| What came (or went) before the Big Bang?
|
| - Mike KB3EIA -

Never mind, while I see the "proof", and this page:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/age.html
seems to suggest 10-20 billion years old--that seems wrong to me--but that
is a lot of information to digest, and I don't want to be drug away from
other pursuits at this moment...
But, it looks like I will have to stand corrected for now... sorry if my
error in "time" (hey, it ain't real anyway grin) caused any grief...

Warmest regards,
John
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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| Cecil Moore wrote:
|
| John Smith wrote:
|
| Portions of this universe are over 100 billion years old--that
| translates directly to 100 billion light years... that is a lot of
| distance... even thought the echo of the big bang itself may have
| subsided, I just cannot believe we can't hear bounces of other signals
| (signals which cannot be accounted for)...
|
|
| How is it possible for portions of this universe to be
| eight times older than the Big Bang which occurred
| about 12.5 billion years ago?
|
| What came (or went) before the Big Bang?
|
| - Mike KB3EIA -