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They use them in guitar amps for the way they transition into distortion,
tone The RCA with the black plates do sound totally different, they are going after specific tubes made by spacific factorys , spacific years They ID them by plates, getters, tops, logos. A set of domestic GE 6CA7's or RCA 6V6's is a hard find in 2006. All the Eastern block and Chinese (fancy silkscreen reliable Groove Tubes) just sound lousy or short You cant run them in a classic Marshall JTM 45 and play Led Zepplin.........even if you turn down to 11. Some of these rock and roll and Bass guitar amps like a 70's Ampeg SVT are very hard on tubes, who needs a failure in the middle of a show or have lug a spare 90 pound beast around. Check out the prices on Telefunken 12AX7's, GE 6550's and British KT-88's.......OUCH ! -Joe "funkbastler" wrote in message ... Somebody please clue me in about what's going on. A pair of 6CA7's just went for $203. Earlier today, a pair of 6SN7's went for over $300 (I missed out on checking the final price). I get the impression that people are collecting these, and the color of the base, or the shape of the getter, or *whatever* is very important (to them) in determining the value. Can anyone really tell the difference in the way 6SN7's by RCA/Sylvania/Dumont/etc sound in a preamp? Does a brown base impart better tonal qualities than a black base, or is it the other way around? Tell me what's driving these ridiculous prices.... I may be sitting on a gold mine here and not know it. -- -fb- |
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![]() Joe wrote: They use them in guitar amps for the way they transition into distortion, tone The RCA with the black plates do sound totally different, they are going after specific tubes made by spacific factorys , spacific years They ID them by plates, getters, tops, logos. A set of domestic GE 6CA7's or RCA 6V6's is a hard find in 2006. All the Eastern block and Chinese (fancy silkscreen reliable Groove Tubes) just sound lousy or short You cant run them in a classic Marshall JTM 45 and play Led Zepplin.........even if you turn down to 11. Some of these rock and roll and Bass guitar amps like a 70's Ampeg SVT are very hard on tubes, who needs a failure in the middle of a show or have lug a spare 90 pound beast around. Check out the prices on Telefunken 12AX7's, GE 6550's and British KT-88's.......OUCH ! -Joe "funkbastler" wrote in message ... Somebody please clue me in about what's going on. A pair of 6CA7's just went for $203. Earlier today, a pair of 6SN7's went for over $300 (I missed out on checking the final price). I get the impression that people are collecting these, and the color of the base, or the shape of the getter, or *whatever* is very important (to them) in determining the value. Can anyone really tell the difference in the way 6SN7's by RCA/Sylvania/Dumont/etc sound in a preamp? Does a brown base impart better tonal qualities than a black base, or is it the other way around? Tell me what's driving these ridiculous prices.... I may be sitting on a gold mine here and not know it. -- -fb- Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as Joe sez. I can't hear these differences so to me any 6SN7 will always be just another old TV set tube and anything more than $2/pair is excessive. If you fancy yourself to be a seller in that market be prepared to have on hand a $500 tube tester sitting somewhere to validate your claims and a tonne of otherwise-useless BS writing skills. Do some research and find out which ones sell and go for it. That research and effort is what the deep-pocketed audio buyer is ultimately paying for. \ -ex |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote:
Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as Joe sez. Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. -- -fb- |
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![]() "funkbastler" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote: Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as Joe sez. Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. -- -fb- Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted. |
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Dave Stadt wrote:
"funkbastler" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote: Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as Joe sez. Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted. Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit. -- My S.O. asked me why there wasn't a Microsoft-brand antivirus, then immediately said, "Oh, of course. If they can't fix the OS, you'd be crazy to buy their antivirus as an add-on." -- Kevin Martin |
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Mike Andrews wrote:
Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted. Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit. The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility, and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power cords and speaker wires lasts longer. -Chuck |
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Behold, Chuck Harris scribed on tube chassis:
Mike Andrews wrote: Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted. Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit. The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility, and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power cords and speaker wires lasts longer. -Chuck Ummmmmm, question? If kept dry, both will last until long after we die. Is this not a moot point? -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:08:43 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote: cords and speaker wires lasts longer. -Chuck Chuck, "...lasts longer." Can you provide more specifics? Comparison figures, etc. Thanks and awaiting enlightenment. |
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:08:43 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote: The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility, and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power cords and speaker wires lasts longer. Ever seen the stuff used on arc welders? Big bundles of very fine strands, with a soft rubber (or rubber-like material) jacket. Lasts a long, long time, doesn't break with flexing, and it's not low- oxygen. -- -fb- |
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I have never met an audiophile who wasnt an idiot, these guys are driving up
the prices for the guys who really need NOS tubes to make a living that pays crap to begin with. *&^%$# Yuppies ! -Joe "funkbastler" wrote in message ... Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable" makes their system sound better. -- -fb- |
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