On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote:


Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear
subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay
dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then
some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as
Joe sez.

Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable"
makes their system sound better.

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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote:


Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear
subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay
dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then
some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as
Joe sez.

Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable"
makes their system sound better.

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Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking.
Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Dave Stadt wrote:

"funkbastler" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:08:57 -0400, -ex- wrote:


Its also very much a vanity thing. The well-eared gang claim to hear
subtle differences (always an improvement) in certain tubes and will pay
dearly for them...if for no other reason than bragging rights. And then
some tubes have a better proven reliability when stretched to abuse - as
Joe sez.

Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable"
makes their system sound better.

Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking.
Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit.

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then immediately said, "Oh, of course. If they can't fix the
OS, you'd be crazy to buy their antivirus as an add-on."
-- Kevin Martin

Mike Andrews wrote:

Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster cable"
makes their system sound better.


Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their thinking.
Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted.


Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit.

The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility,
and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power
cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck

Behold, Chuck Harris scribed on tube chassis:

Mike Andrews wrote:

Sounds like we're dealing with the same folks who think "monster
cable" makes their system sound better.


Those folks also never allow an objective A/B test to cloud their
thinking. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted.


Oxygen-free cable for oxygen-free brains. It seems to fit.

The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility,
and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power
cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck

Ummmmmm, question?

If kept dry, both will last until long after we die. Is this not a moot
point?

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Gregg "t3h g33k"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca
*Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines*

Gregg wrote:
Behold, Chuck Harris scribed on tube chassis:

The Oxygen-free feature of copper wire is about enhanced flexibility,
and improved resistance to breaking. Oxygen free copper wire in power
cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck


Ummmmmm, question?

If kept dry, both will last until long after we die. Is this not a moot
point?


Mostly true, the biggest advantage to oxygen free copper is in applications
where the cord gets daily flexing, think of all the times you have found
a broken spot in the cord on an iron, vacuum cleaner or shaver. With oxygen free
wire, it is supposed to last longer.

-Chuck

Chuck Harris wrote:


Mostly true, the biggest advantage to oxygen free copper is in applications
where the cord gets daily flexing, think of all the times you have found
a broken spot in the cord on an iron, vacuum cleaner or shaver. With
oxygen free
wire, it is supposed to last longer.

-Chuck

Of all the vacuum cleaners and shavers I have ever owned, don't think I
have ever found a broken spot on the cord. If fact, the cord usually
outlast the device.

Oxygen free is just for the audiophools to spend outrageous amounts of
money on for nothing.

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:08:43 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote:


cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck

Chuck,

"...lasts longer." Can you provide more specifics?

Comparison figures, etc.

Thanks and awaiting enlightenment.

HPGrn wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:08:43 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote:



cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck


Chuck,

"...lasts longer." Can you provide more specifics?

Comparison figures, etc.

Thanks and awaiting enlightenment.

I doubt there is any data to support that, it just that the audiophools
fall for the hype hook, line, and sinker while the folks that sell the
stuff to them laugh all the way to the bank.

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
HPGrn wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:08:43 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote:



cords and speaker wires lasts longer.

-Chuck



Chuck,

"...lasts longer." Can you provide more specifics?

Comparison figures, etc.

Thanks and awaiting enlightenment.


I doubt there is any data to support that, it just that the audiophools
fall for the hype hook, line, and sinker while the folks that sell the
stuff to them laugh all the way to the bank.

Buzz, audiophools don't buy the mass marketed IEC standard power cords, such
as are used on your PC, but they are all "oxygen-free" copper wire. This is
a standard feature of modern copper wire manufacture.

-Chuck