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* David Kaye wrote, On 5/24/2011 8:28 AM:
"John wrote Naturally, Camping blamed God for the failure, [....] He seemed to be blaming himself for his inability to interpret the Bible. If the 1994 pattern holds, this will last a week or so. By then he will have fully developed a convoluted zig-zag around various Bible verses that (according to him) prove him conclusively right. Remember, to Harold Camping, interpreting the Bible is not understanding what is in the text itself, it is digging out by our own hard work what God has hidden from us. That's why many of his teachings, especially in the last year or so, are directly contradictory to the written text. His biblical spelunking has left him blind to the obvious. So, if he doesn't collect a salary from Family Radio, as evidenced by his non-profit filing for 2009, where does he get his personal income, from his retirement as a civil engineer for the city of Oakland? I don't recall that he worked for the city. He owned a construction company, and he owns property all over the Bay Area. He built a fair number of shopping centers around such as Town & Country Village (Sunnyvale), Pelton Center in San Leandro, South Shore in Alameda, and he still owns the land beneath the Alameda post office. (All of these last I heard- things might have changed). In decades past he bankrolled Family Radio through some financial crises. Harold Camping, even now, cannot be accused of financial greed for its own sake. Back when I knew a production guy over there he asked me if I might want to apply for a job. This was when Family was about half the size it is today. I said no because I wasn't a believer. The guy (I forget his name now) told me that I didn't have to be a believer, just be able to do a good job. Harold Camping is, in many ways, very easy to work for. Do your job, don't undermine him, don't contradict him in public. You can screw up mightily and he will let it go if you simply own up to your errors. There are several levels on which he is a very likable old man, and there is a great deal of flexibility in our employment. I have been places and done things that *never* would have happened in the real world. I've been on full salary throughout cancer treatments and multiple surgeries during the last two years. Name another business where that would be true. (Of course, another business might have had real health insurance. *That's* a sore spot!) I should think there are enough commercially viable stations that they could actually set up an endowment for the whole operation. Unfortunately, he and his board either don't understand commercial operation and what it could (have) do(ne), or there has been a rejection of the notion altogether. When we owned channel 64 it *could have been* a cash cow for the organization, but Jesus was coming in 1994 and there wasn't time to do business *as* business. And then he was offered money for the station that would finance the present campaign. As it was, we were never more than a "break even" operation. In the end no commercial operation can be had because everything done throughout the organization is not just *for* Harold Camping, but it is *about* Harold Camping. We couldn't broker religious time on 610 because there would be *other* voices, and, to borrow from Higlander, "There can be only one." Likewise, a secular format would be a complete waste of precious time to disseminate Harold's voice. Do you see why things are the way they are? JT -- |
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"John T" wrote That's why many of his teachings, especially in the last year or so, are directly contradictory to the written text. His biblical spelunking has left him blind to the obvious. My philosophy as I've expressed here from time to time: You cannot argue someone out of a position using logic if they did not use logic to get themselves into it. I don't recall that he worked for the city. He owned a construction company, and he owns property all over the Bay Area. He built a fair number of shopping centers around such as Town & Country Village (Sunnyvale), Pelton Center in San Leandro, South Shore in Alameda [....] Dang it! Those are some of my favorite places as shopping centers go. I had no idea about this side of him. Do you see why things are the way they are? It's a bane, but it's a boon, too. As I've said before, though I abhor most of his teachings, Family Radio is really the *only* religious broadcaster I can think of that doesn't feel slimy. |
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There will be live Open Forum tonight.
David Kaye wrote:
Do you see why things are the way they are? It's a bane, but it's a boon, too. As I've said before, though I abhor most of his teachings, Family Radio is really the *only* religious broadcaster I can think of that doesn't feel slimy. I'd agree, with the exception that Billy Graham's operation also seemed very sincere and honest. I have always been impressed with how Hour of Decision was done. I worked briefly for an AM play-for-pay operation in the eighties and got to know some folks at other similar independents. To call some of those folks "slimy" is a great understatement. But, people are just this way. You throw the moneylenders out of the temple, in a couple thousand years they're just going to be back again... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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