On 26 Jun 2004 04:33:33 GMT, clifto wrote:

AA is too far right for NPR.

Can you document that? FAIR has recently done an analysis of NPR and
came up with figures that clearly dispute your claim. FAIR counts
quite a few more conservatives as guests on NPR than knee-jerk
anti-NPR people are used to complaining about.

I don't recall hearing a single conservative guest on Air America.
That would make Air America much farther left (by their own admission
and promotion) than NPR.

Rich

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On 26 Jun 2004 04:33:33 GMT, clifto wrote:

AA is too far right for NPR.

Can you document that? FAIR has recently done an analysis of NPR and
came up with figures that clearly dispute your claim. FAIR counts
quite a few more conservatives as guests on NPR than knee-jerk
anti-NPR people are used to complaining about.

I don't recall hearing a single conservative guest on Air America.
That would make Air America much farther left (by their own admission
and promotion) than NPR.

I think it was Boortz who said he was on Frankin. He also said never again.

On 28 Jun 2004 16:38:10 GMT, "Paul Jensen"
wrote:

I don't recall hearing a single conservative guest on Air America.
That would make Air America much farther left (by their own admission
and promotion) than NPR.

I think it was Boortz who said he was on Frankin. He also said never again.

Why on God's earth would Franken interview another talk show host,
unless the shows were simulcast and Franken could get exposure on
Boortz's stations? Did Boortz do something of news value that almost
required an interview?

Of course "never again." What did Boortz expect? Probably the same
treatment a liberal would get on a conservative show. Two absolutely
immovable objects ranting at each other. Same ol, same ol.

Rich

"Paul Jensen" wrote in
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I think it was Boortz who said he was on Frankin. He also said never
again.

Franken caught Boortz in a lie about having offered Franken to guest-host
Boortz's show (back before AA existed), and saying that Franken had
refused because Boorts wouldn't allow him to control the phone callers.

Franken called Boortz on the lie while on the phone with him, playing the
tape of Boortz lying, then forcing Boortz to admit that he had lied. I
heard the segment. Boortz came off as a lying, blowhard putz.

Of COURSE Boortz said "never again" after that.

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"Paul Jensen" wrote in
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I think it was Boortz who said he was on Frankin. He also said
never
again.

Franken caught Boortz in a lie about having offered Franken to
guest-host
Boortz's show (back before AA existed), and saying that Franken had
refused because Boorts wouldn't allow him to control the phone
callers.

Franken called Boortz on the lie while on the phone with him,
playing the
tape of Boortz lying, then forcing Boortz to admit that he had lied.
I
heard the segment. Boortz came off as a lying, blowhard putz.


Lying, blowhard putz? Speaking of Michael Moore, did you ever pin
down the alleged "lie" by Fred Barnes that had the humor-challenged
all in a tizzy?

Quoth "T. Early" in news:cbqv44$t64$1
@xuxa.iecc.com:

Lying, blowhard putz? Speaking of Michael Moore, did you ever pin
down the alleged "lie" by Fred Barnes that had the humor-challenged
all in a tizzy?

Last I heard, Barnes never called Franken back.

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Rich Wood wrote in message ...
On 26 Jun 2004 04:33:33 GMT, clifto wrote:

AA is too far right for NPR.

Can you document that? FAIR has recently done an analysis of NPR and
came up with figures that clearly dispute your claim. FAIR counts
quite a few more conservatives as guests on NPR than knee-jerk
anti-NPR people are used to complaining about.

I don't recall hearing a single conservative guest on Air America.
That would make Air America much farther left (by their own admission
and promotion) than NPR.

Rich

RW,

In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.

NPR is the primary propaganda organ for the Liberal Media ELITE [.]

So Say I, My Opinions Stated As Facts ~ RHF

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(RHF) wrote in message ...
In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.

Documentation, please--and don't just copy from NewsMax.

The President is generally always referred to in the first reference
as "President ---" and in the second reference as "Mr. ---." That's
basic AP Stylebook.

I did a search on npr.org and found 3,518 pages that have on them
"President Bush." Granted, some of them may refer to George H.W. Bush
and are likely not transcripts of stories that are audio hyperlinked,
but it seems to me that NPR is following basic stylebook on references
to the President.

And at NPR, as at many other journalistic organizations, the President
is always heard last in a story, no matter what party he belongs to.
That's also pretty much Journalism 101.

NPR is the primary propaganda organ for the Liberal Media ELITE [.]

Then why are the extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR continually
attacking NPR for right-wing bias? Why does Amy Goodman of Pacifica
refer to NPR as part of "corporate media?" Why did I hear a bunch of
hardcore lefties at a forum I once attended *boo* a mention of NPR?

As far as I'm concerned, if the extremist wackos on both sides hate
NPR, they must be doing something right.

"Mark Jeffries" wrote in message
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(RHF) wrote in message
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In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.

Just another troll with a bad memory. NPR, and many other news organisations, will
use all three forms just to avoid being repetitive. Regardless of the person or
party holding the office. Same goes for Representatives and Senators. Shheeessshhh!

Could we PLEASE refrain from keeping these useless, wasteful and off-topic threads
(although this one is less so than most of the crap that's been droning on-and-on for
the last two weeks) from bloating this newsgroup? I, and I'm sure quite a bunch
more, would appreciate it! By now you should know who is and who is not worth
engaging. Use that knowledge to do the best thing, which is to just ignore them. Or
put them in your kill file. They can't talk to themselves (although there may be a
few who don't quite meet that criteria, either)!
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(RHF) wrote in message ...
In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.

Documentation, please--and don't just copy from NewsMax.

The President is generally always referred to in the first reference
as "President ---" and in the second reference as "Mr. ---." That's
basic AP Stylebook.

I did a search on npr.org and found 3,518 pages that have on them
"President Bush." Granted, some of them may refer to George H.W. Bush
and are likely not transcripts of stories that are audio hyperlinked,
but it seems to me that NPR is following basic stylebook on references
to the President.

And at NPR, as at many other journalistic organizations, the President
is always heard last in a story, no matter what party he belongs to.
That's also pretty much Journalism 101.

NPR is the primary propaganda organ for the Liberal Media ELITE [.]

Then why are the extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR continually
attacking NPR for right-wing bias?

MJ,

Because to use your words they are "extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR"

NPR may be Left-Wing and Liberal but it is not Extreme [.]
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Why does Amy Goodman of Pacifica refer to NPR
as part of "corporate media?"

You feel that NewsMax is not creditable but then cite Pacifica ?
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Why did I hear a bunch of hardcore lefties at
a forum I once attended *boo* a mention of NPR?

Because to use your words they are "hardcore lefties"

TIP - Find a Forum were you fit-in and do NOT view the other
members as either 'extreme' or 'hardcore' Lefties or Righties.
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As far as I'm concerned, if the extremist wackos on both sides hate
NPR, they must be doing something right.

So Two Wrongs Do Make a Right ) ~ RHF

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