From: on Tues, Nov 22 2005 3:18 pm


wrote:
From: on Nov 18, 4:54 pm
wrote:
From: on Fri 18 Nov 2005 04:52
wrote:
From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 16:22
K0HB wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message

My copy of MCO P10120.28G (Individual Clothing Regulations) dated 08 Jul 05
says:

Steve was in the USMC on 08 JUL 05?

According to Google dated 17 November 05, Robeson claimed USMC
service from 1974 to 1992.

I'm so glad that Steve was in compliance with regulations that were 31
years in the future at the time he stood on the yellow footprints.
Steve always was out of step with the rest of society.

He is a "man of many talents!" :-)

At least he hasn't minced around in baby shoes.

His primary talent is lying.

Lying around the house, lying around the barracks, lying around the
newsgroup...

Welp, his agreement to be civil didn't last even 24 hours.

"Civil?" He was trying to be military...

Do you think he lied, or is he just incapable of being civil? Or both?

Absolutely BOTH. A worse part is that he fails at both...

There is a 13 year to 31 year GAP in there.

He got his uniforms issued at the GAP?

Probably at Sergeant Grit or some other Army-Navy surplus store.

"GI Joes."

Kinda small, but prolly bigger than his Johnson...

He has a Johnson? Wonder if it has "E.F." stenciled on it?

Not enough room on it for initials too...

Dudly is a Code Warrior. Others are just Code Worriers.

But they serve in other ways.

"Waiter, there's soup in my fly!" :-)

Use a napkin when eating soup.

Good thought...especiall if bean with bacon...(bacon is ham)

These mighty warriors certainly know how to turn off any
ham wannabes...which may be why Val Germann is still an
unmodified Tech for so long?

Poor Val. Such ambition.

Well, that's how it goes...sometimes reality boots ya in
the ash.

"There is no problem so large nor complex that it cannot be run away
from."

Jimmie not like that one bit. If'n he see what he think is a
promise many years ago, he keep after that person forever.

Jimmie ought to go out to Misery and kick Val's butt for not
learning code!

Maybe Val hears code so poorly sent by the Missouri VE that he cannot
decode it?

GOOD POINT! Carroll left a legacy of deliberate poorly-
sent code? :-)

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 19:52:48 -0800, "an old friend"
wrote in .com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:
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Steve, K4YZ

I'm going nowhere until you address your lies, Dud.

I hope you have a comfy chair you will be here a LONG time

I've been on the internet for over 15 years, and was networking
locally about 12 years before that using a dual 8" floppy DEC and a
Silent 700 with built-in modem pushing 300 baud -- I can wait.

I am sure there are a LOT of floppies in your life, Frankie, your
Marine Corps "career" among them.

Until then, you have yet to even come close to a "point" other
than making stuff up.

Perhaps you should consider a career in writing children's tales?
You've already demonstrated a talent for fiction. Just finding an
appropriate target audience may be a bit challenging for you, though.

Steve, K4YZ

an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in

Those with more guts than you are welcome to call/write/e-mail
HQMC and verify my original statement.

in other word you are too lazy to you own homework

Nope.

I already diod it.

I already know the facts.

I provided the five of you a point-of-refrence with which to
verify my statemets.

and where is your SSnum?

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!

YOU THINK I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO YOU
CAN VERIFY A MARINE CORPS ORDER THAT'S PUBLIC DOMAIN
INFORMATION....?!?!?!?!

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I didn't pay a dime. Nor was it deducted from my pay.

The "chits" accounted for government money spent...Not mine.

Get a grip, Dud -- anyone who's ever been through MCRD knows better.

Then why don't you?

you are the one lacking a grip

Nope.

Your buddy Frankie is LYING to you, Markie, as he is everyone else
he want's to have believe his tales!

Frank Gilliland has already been proven (by his own admission) to
have been a "####bird PFC". In other words he was deadweight while he
WAS in the Corps, and his inability to keep a clean nose for just ONE
tour is proof of that.

I've further busted him on numerous details HE should have known
about.

Perhaps YOUR story is the one worthy of REAL investigation!

why you acusing him of hiding a 3rd Courtmartial?

WTF did I say that, you moron...?!?!?!?!

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UNQUOTE

At this point you have snipped a lot of relevent stuff to the
following comments:

So Frankie...What about those non-existant MP's...?!?!

Well by golly, you -REALLY CAN- provide proof of something. It wasn't
that hard, was it, Dudly? Or did Han's send you the info in an email?
Either way, you were willing and able to address the issue. Progress!

I've been doing it all along.

nope

Yep.

Did it right there in the paragraph you "snipped", yet followed up
with a comment, Markie.

Frankie insisted that the Marines DON'T have Military
Police...Just "Shore Patrol", yet the USMC has a whole MOS Occupational
Field dedicted to it.

Need some more Kleenex to clean off that bloody nose, punk?

Nope, and you are too dumb to see that you just gave -yourself- a
bloody nose.

Nope. That's "collateral damage" from you, Snivvelling One.

still a bloody now little boy

That's right..Frankie's nose is STILL bloody. Of course I am sure
you LIKE that kind of thing, having publically stated the only thing
you DON'T like is "solid waste".

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 19:52:48 -0800, "an old friend"
wrote in .com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:
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Steve, K4YZ

I'm going nowhere until you address your lies, Dud.

I hope you have a comfy chair you will be here a LONG time

I've been on the internet for over 15 years, and was networking
locally about 12 years before that using a dual 8" floppy DEC and a
Silent 700 with built-in modem pushing 300 baud -- I can wait.

I am sure there are a LOT of floppies in your life, Frankie, your
Marine Corps "career" among them.

more of stveie BS
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K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in

Those with more guts than you are welcome to call/write/e-mail
HQMC and verify my original statement.

in other word you are too lazy to you own homework

Nope.

yes too lazy

I already diod it.

"diod"

I already know the facts.

which might be true but it has nothing to the matters at hand


I provided the five of you a point-of-refrence with which to
verify my statemets.


nope you have provided a point where we could waste our time if we were
that stupid

without a lot more data thatere is no way to verify your cliams

there is for example no way to verify if we were able to verfy your
claims about a Steve J Robeson that the person was you

and where is your SSnum?

cuting
YOU THINK I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO YOU
CAN VERIFY A MARINE CORPS ORDER THAT'S PUBLIC DOMAIN
INFORMATION....?!?!?!?!

you wisely refuse to provide it I agree

but the flip side is your claims can't begin to verfied without ti
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I didn't pay a dime. Nor was it deducted from my pay.

The "chits" accounted for government money spent...Not mine.

Get a grip, Dud -- anyone who's ever been through MCRD knows better.

Then why don't you?

you are the one lacking a grip

Nope.

Your buddy Frankie is LYING to you, Markie, as he is everyone else
he want's to have believe his tales!

likely in some way. everybody lies after all

Frank Gilliland has already been proven (by his own admission) to
have been a "####bird PFC". In other words he was deadweight while he
WAS in the Corps, and his inability to keep a clean nose for just ONE
tour is proof of that.

I know you lack respect for the lower ranks you show that often but
your lack of respect does not impact on reality. it is part of the
mindset that has left the Army with more col's than machinegunners but
nothing wrong with being a private

I've further busted him on numerous details HE should have known
about.

Perhaps YOUR story is the one worthy of REAL investigation!

why you acusing him of hiding a 3rd Courtmartial?

WTF did I say that, you moron...?!?!?!?!

I was asking since you were not being clear


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UNQUOTE

At this point you have snipped a lot of relevent stuff to the
following comments:
nope nothing relavant to me
cut
Nope. That's "collateral damage" from you, Snivvelling One.

still a bloody now little boy

That's right..Frankie's nose is STILL bloody.

you need to learn english before you go about trying to correct it

Of course I am sure
you LIKE that kind of thing, having publically stated the only thing
you DON'T like is "solid waste".

you my be sure but you are stupid in thinking so

Steve, K4YZ

an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in

Those with more guts than you are welcome to call/write/e-mail
HQMC and verify my original statement.

in other word you are too lazy to you own homework

Nope.

yes too lazy

Nope.

YOU are too COWARDLY to follow-up on the references....

I already diod it.

"diod"

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! ! ! ! !

So here's the sco Markie: 3,126,357 Steve 1

I already know the facts.

which might be true but it has nothing to the matters at hand

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

So as far as YOU are concerned, the "facts" don't matter ! ! ! ! !
! !

No big news here.

I provided the five of you a point-of-refrence with which to
verify my statemets.

nope you have provided a point where we could waste our time if we were
that stupid

Well Markie, so far there have been at least two other people
who've been able to corroborate what I've said, and found it to be
true.

So the ONLY reason for YOU not doing the same thing is COWARDICE!

without a lot more data thatere is no way to verify your cliams

What "more data"...?!?!?

Hans just dropped a letter to a relative and the MCO on uniforms
came up.

there is for example no way to verify if we were able to verfy your
claims about a Steve J Robeson that the person was you

There may be a "Steve J Robeson". I am not he.

and where is your SSnum?

cuting

Uncutting:

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

YOU THINK I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO YOU
CAN VERIFY A MARINE CORPS ORDER THAT'S PUBLIC DOMAIN
INFORMATION....?!?!?!?!

you wisely refuse to provide it I agree

but the flip side is your claims can't begin to verfied without ti

Sure they can!

Frankie's BS about the USMC has already been disproven, starting
with uniforms and the existance of a Military Police MOS, and I didn't
even need to THINK about my SSN, let alone reveal it!

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I didn't pay a dime. Nor was it deducted from my pay.

The "chits" accounted for government money spent...Not mine.

Get a grip, Dud -- anyone who's ever been through MCRD knows better.

Then why don't you?

you are the one lacking a grip

Nope.

Your buddy Frankie is LYING to you, Markie, as he is everyone else
he want's to have believe his tales!

likely in some way. everybody lies after all

Only in your cynical mind, Markie, and only because you HOPE
everyone lies...THAT would let your guilt off the hook...Not that you
have any.

Frank Gilliland has already been proven (by his own admission) to
have been a "####bird PFC". In other words he was deadweight while he
WAS in the Corps, and his inability to keep a clean nose for just ONE
tour is proof of that.

I know you lack respect for the lower ranks you show that often but
your lack of respect does not impact on reality. it is part of the
mindset that has left the Army with more col's than machinegunners but
nothing wrong with being a private

No, there's absolutley nothing wrong for "the lower ranks".

I exhibited NOT ONE IOTA of disrespect based upon "rank".

My "disrespect" is for a lying, deceitful, can't carry himself
honorably for ONE enlistment punk.

I've further busted him on numerous details HE should have known
about.

Perhaps YOUR story is the one worthy of REAL investigation!

why you acusing him of hiding a 3rd Courtmartial?

WTF did I say that, you moron...?!?!?!?!

I was asking since you were not being clear

I was absolutley clear, you moronic putz.

cut
UNQUOTE

At this point you have snipped a lot of relevent stuff to the
following comments:

nope nothing relavant to me

Especially when you spell it "relavant".

And yes, you cut "relevent" stuff, especially since your comments
dwelled on it.

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Nope. That's "collateral damage" from you, Snivvelling One.

still a bloody now little boy

That's right..Frankie's nose is STILL bloody.

you need to learn english before you go about trying to correct it

I know enough to know that "english" is caplitalized, you moronic
putz.

And Frankie's nose is STILL bloodied.

Of course I am sure
you LIKE that kind of thing, having publically stated the only thing
you DON'T like is "solid waste".

you my be sure but you are stupid in thinking so

Not at all. They were YOUR words.

Steve, K4YZ

On 23 Nov 2005 03:53:43 -0800, "Major Dud" wrote in
. com:


an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 19 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in

Those with more guts than you are welcome to call/write/e-mail
HQMC and verify my original statement.

in other word you are too lazy to you own homework

Nope.

I already diod it.


.......lazy......homework......hmmmmm......


I already know the facts.

I provided the five of you a point-of-refrence with which to
verify my statemets.


"reference", "statements"


and where is your SSnum?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!

YOU THINK I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO YOU
CAN VERIFY A MARINE CORPS ORDER THAT'S PUBLIC DOMAIN
INFORMATION....?!?!?!?!

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA
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I didn't pay a dime. Nor was it deducted from my pay.

The "chits" accounted for government money spent...Not mine.

Get a grip, Dud -- anyone who's ever been through MCRD knows better.

Then why don't you?

you are the one lacking a grip

Nope.

Your buddy Frankie is LYING to you, Markie, as he is everyone else
he want's to have believe his tales!

Frank Gilliland has already been proven (by his own admission) to
have been a "####bird PFC".


"****bird"

Yep. Sure did.


In other words he was deadweight while he
WAS in the Corps, and his inability to keep a clean nose for just ONE
tour is proof of that.


Learn to seperate fact from opinion, Dud.


I've further busted him on numerous details HE should have known
about.


.......such as?


Perhaps YOUR story is the one worthy of REAL investigation!

why you acusing him of hiding a 3rd Courtmartial?

WTF did I say that, you moron...?!?!?!?!

cut
UNQUOTE

At this point you have snipped a lot of relevent stuff to the
following comments:


"relevant"


So Frankie...What about those non-existant MP's...?!?!

Well by golly, you -REALLY CAN- provide proof of something. It wasn't
that hard, was it, Dudly? Or did Han's send you the info in an email?
Either way, you were willing and able to address the issue. Progress!

I've been doing it all along.

nope

Yep.

Did it right there in the paragraph you "snipped", yet followed up
with a comment, Markie.

Frankie insisted that the Marines DON'T have Military
Police...Just "Shore Patrol", yet the USMC has a whole MOS Occupational
Field dedicted to it.


"dedicated"

And that's something you're -proud- to admit? Think about it for a
sec, Dud..... do you really think that a ****bird PFC, after going
through two courts-martial and spending time in the brig, doesn't know
that the Marine Corps doesn't have MP's? Gawd you are dumb. I guess I
have to explain it to you on a third-grade level:

I baited you, Dud. I wanted to see if you were willing to prove me
wrong if you had the chance, so I gave you the chance. You took the
bait, hook, line, sinker, and half the dock. IOW, you just proved that
if you -did- have proof of your 'career' in the Corps, you would not
only have posted it, you would be trying to shove it down my throat at
every opportunity -- just like you are doing with the MP/SP issue.

But go right ahead and rejoice in your imaginary victory, Major Dud.


Need some more Kleenex to clean off that bloody nose, punk?

Nope, and you are too dumb to see that you just gave -yourself- a
bloody nose.

Nope. That's "collateral damage" from you, Snivvelling One.

still a bloody now little boy

That's right..Frankie's nose is STILL bloody. Of course I am sure
you LIKE that kind of thing, having publically stated the only thing
you DON'T like is "solid waste".

Steve "wannbe-Marine" Robeson, K4YZ


Let's see if you are still unwilling to address the issues.......


You didn't know that avionics techs (your alleged MOS) are regularly
deployed with the FMF.

You didn't know about the VINSON system. To wit: "I know who Col
Vinson was and I know where Ft Gordon is. Never served with him/for
him/within 100 miles of him." Neither did you know that the VINSON
system replaced almost all outdated crypto systems in the late '70's,
including the old punch-pin monsters (KY-28/38 of the NESTOR system,
which had been almost completely replaced by the VINSON system by the
early '80's).

You didn't know the difference between a 'hitch', a 'cruise', and a
'float'.

You mistakenly assumed the origination of the phrase "One Shot One
Kill" was from the Army Sniper School; wrongfully presumed that it is
a tactic taught to all Marine recruits; then proceeded to demonstrate
your ignorance about basic combat tactics, the use of shotguns, and
the very common 40mm grenade launchers (M-79 & M-203).

You claimed that "the only targets used to train Marine riflemen (and
all recruits) [are] head shots and 'center mast', or chest shots", but
didn't know that the standard round marksmanship-type targets are also
used, and much more often than "dog" targets. In fact, most of rifle
qualification is done with the round targets. But you didn't know that
despite your claim to have "[taken] home an 'Rifle Expert' on each and
every trip to the range".

You didn't know that only the results of an Article 15 proceeding are
recorded, not the entire proceedings; and you don't even know what
page in the SRB they are recorded.

You didn't know that Marines are often prohibited from taking any
off-duty employment, nor did you know that such a decision is usually
made by the CO, not HQMC.

You didn't know that outside communications can be prohibited during a
base lock-down or unit activation.

You defined a 'chit' as "A Naval term for a 'permission
slip'", when in fact it means -any- piece of paper with something
written on it.

You didn't know that a dishonorable discharge can only be given as a
result of a conviction in a General court-martial, and is usually
given after a few years at Leavenworth and a reduction to Private.

You didn't know that the Corps doesn't use cutting scores for
promotions.

You misquoted your SIX alleged promotion certificates (a misquote that
I later found on google verbatim).

You didn't understand that "years and months in specialty" (box 11 on
the DD-214) is not the same as time in service, yet claimed that you
have -several- DD-214's.

You claimed that time on the delayed entry program was considered to
be time in reserve status but never was.

You stated that "My DD-214 says 'Honorable'...", yet after 1979 there
is no box on the form to designate character of service. The DD-214 is
only a "release or discharge from active duty", not a final discharge
certificate. Only that latter will denote the character of service.

You claimed to have served from 03 September, 1974 to 29 May, 1992.
That's only 17 years and 9 months. Yet you also claim to be retired,
which can only happen if you served 20 years. You also claimed to have
been discharged for medical reasons, having your discharge later
upgraded (a claim which you have both denied and acknowledged). You
didn't know that medical discharges cannot be upgraded, nor that time
not served cannot be arbitrarily added to the end of an enlistment in
order to obtain retirement benefits.

And once again: With all your careers, activities and obligations,
where do you find the time to post as much as you do on Usenet?


Well?







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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:16:17 -0800, Frank Gilliland
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And that's something you're -proud- to admit? Think about it for a
sec, Dud..... do you really think that a ****bird PFC, after going
through two courts-martial and spending time in the brig, doesn't know
that the Marine Corps doesn't have MP's? Gawd you are dumb.


Since Major Dud can't hold himself to the same standards that he
imposes upon everyone else, I suppose that I will need to set the
example. The preceding paragraph is hereby corrected as follows:


And that's something you're -proud- to admit? Think about it for a
sec, Dud..... do you really think that a ****bird PFC, after going
through two courts-martial and spending time in the brig, doesn't know
that the Marine Corps has MP's? Gawd you are dumb.


Address the issues, Dud.








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Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 23 Nov 2005 03:53:43 wrote in

Huge Snip

And once again: With all your careers, activities and obligations,
where do you find the time to post as much as you do on Usenet?


Well?

Frankie, PERHAPS if you had learned early in your life how to
prioritize your activities and your daily obligations-vs-preferences,
you MIGHT have found time to be the Marine you now fancy yourself as
having been.

Instead, you wound up as an also-ran trying to salve his bruised
ego at the expense of someone who DID learn how to do those things.

I pity you, really...

I managed to be able to do the things I want.

You never managed to do the things you need to.

Steve, K4YZ

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:16:17 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
:

snip
And that's something you're -proud- to admit? Think about it for a
sec, Dud..... do you really think that a ####bird PFC, after going
through two courts-martial and spending time in the brig, doesn't know
that the Marine Corps doesn't have MP's? Gawd you are dumb.

Since Major Dud can't hold himself to the same standards that he
imposes upon everyone else, I suppose that I will need to set the
example. The preceding paragraph is hereby corrected as follows:

And that's something you're -proud- to admit? Think about it for a
sec, Dud..... do you really think that a ####bird PFC, after going
through two courts-martial and spending time in the brig, doesn't know
that the Marine Corps has MP's? Gawd you are dumb.

Address the issues, Dud.

I understand "the issues" just fine, Frankie.

You made the stupid comments and I bloodied your nose with them.

You've tripped yourself up SEVERAL times now trying to salve your
ego and "make fun" of me, only to get it fed back to you.

You were useless when you were in the Corps, you're even less than
useless now.

The ONLY thing you've gotten right so far was categorizing
yourself as a ####bird.

Steve, K4YZ