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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:50:12 -0600, "Charlie"
bt it is obvious he is increasingly unhapy with Ham radio, and that
this is likely to only get worse


Markey boy I left you to play elsewhere, I have no intention of slapping
you around again, especially not on a DX forum. So please pick up your
toys and go home....thank you.

Oh and BTW I love Ham Radio. That is why I keep fighting with losers like
you.

Have a good one.

Dan/W4NTI

"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
there) One would, however, think common sense would tell people even if
you do know which DX station is there, you're going to have to be able to
hear him to make a QSO!


Not really....let me explain how that works in today's computer world.

You call and call and call and hope he hears you. Then you check the
internet automatic log to see if your call shows up. In the meantime you
keep calling.

Ah, so *that's* why Cumberland Electric had to increase utility rates --
to pay for the extra plants to power all those fruitless
transmissionsgrin!

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


There it is Doug....finally some one that knows sarcasm when he reads it.

Dan/W4NTI

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:03:18 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote:


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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 03:50:12 -0600, "Charlie"
bt it is obvious he is increasingly unhapy with Ham radio, and that
this is likely to only get worse


Markey boy I left you to play elsewhere,
you never left me dan I was always here
I have no intention of slapping
you around again, especially not on a DX forum.
more of your bad attitude
So please pick up your
toys and go home....thank you.

Oh and BTW I love Ham Radio.
you might try acting like you like it
That is why I keep fighting with losers like
you.
nope you keep fighting becuase you are combative

Have a good one.

Dan/W4NTI



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Derek Wills wrote:

There's another strange 'cluster spotting' phenomenon that I don't
understand at all. Tonight, LZ4UU was on 40 cw sending his or her
call frequently. There were 4 consecutives spots for LZ1UU (not 4)
on exactly the same freq (7001.5) at 0211, 0217, 0219 and 0220 UT
by four (apparently) different people. The station always sent 4,
never 1, while I was listening. How does one explain that?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Easy. Using a telnet program like SpotCollector, if you double click on
a bad call in order to QSY to that call, the bad call gets pre-entered
in the "Outgoing spot" box. Unless you notice the error, the next spot
you make will have the bad call.

The next question is why anyone would re-spot a call that's just been
spotted and for that, I have no answer.

73, Bill W6WRT

Win wrote:
Have I ever called on the DX's frequency?

Yes.

Have I ever missed my call?

Yes.

If you haven't made these, and other mistakes, you probably haven't
been DXing long.

An occasional error is to be expected. I've certainly done all of this.

When it happens over and over and over again, that's not an occasional
error.

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:40:07 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Win wrote:
Have I ever called on the DX's frequency?

Yes.

Have I ever missed my call?

Yes.

If you haven't made these, and other mistakes, you probably haven't
been DXing long.

An occasional error is to be expected. I've certainly done all of this.

When it happens over and over and over again, that's not an occasional
error.

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.

can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?

I would say no so you are presuming to know what the other station 's
problem lack of skill vs local interfence not strong enough to
propogate

and presuming leaving one at risk of much the same as assuming

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wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:40:07 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.

can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?

I would say no so you are presuming to know what the other station 's
problem lack of skill vs local interfence not strong enough to
propogate

and presuming leaving one at risk of much the same as assuming

If you can't hear it, you can't work it. Period.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Paul Lincke ist dem Zille sein Milhaud.

(Harry Rowohlt)

For me, there is no worse feeling than calling on the DX's frequency,
then realizing I did it. It is not fun to know that hundreds, maybe
thousands, of other hams just heard my call, and know that I am an
idiot.

I can't believe anyone would to this on purpose. If they do, they have
thicker skin than I.

Win, w0lz

Win wrote:
For me, there is no worse feeling than calling on the DX's frequency,
then realizing I did it. It is not fun to know that hundreds, maybe
thousands, of other hams just heard my call, and know that I am an
idiot.

I can't believe anyone would to this on purpose. If they do, they have
thicker skin than I.

I'm not sure where this part came from - that was *not* among the
liddish behaviors I observed in this instance.

(I did hear someone calling atop the DX, but he was calling CQ, not
calling the DX station.)

Agreed, I can't see anyone intentionally calling the DX on the DX's own
frequency when they know the DX is listening elsewhere.

(that's an important qualifier. On altogether too many instances, the
DX isn't saying they're listening up! I've been called a lid a couple
of times for calling the DX on their transmit frequency -- the DX was
only saying "TU" - wasn't *saying* they were listening up.

This usually happens with the same DX stations who only ID every five
minutes.

I suppose the DX figured everyone knew they were listening up, because
it said so in the spot.)

There are, however, of course, lids who will transmit something else on
top of the DX. Luckily we don't know who these lids are. Luckily,
because the penalty for arson is considerably greater than that for
intentional QRM.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm

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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:40:07 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Win wrote:
Have I ever called on the DX's frequency?

Yes.

Have I ever missed my call?

Yes.

If you haven't made these, and other mistakes, you probably haven't
been DXing long.

An occasional error is to be expected. I've certainly done all of this.

When it happens over and over and over again, that's not an occasional
error.

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.

can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?


What part of "If you cannot copy the DX, do not call" do you
misunderstand? Why?

I would say no so you are presuming to know what the other station 's
problem lack of skill vs local interfence not strong enough to
propogate

and presuming leaving one at risk of much the same as assuming

Ignorance is it's own revenge.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli