For me, there is no worse feeling than calling on the DX's frequency,
then realizing I did it. It is not fun to know that hundreds, maybe
thousands, of other hams just heard my call, and know that I am an
idiot.

I can't believe anyone would to this on purpose. If they do, they have
thicker skin than I.

Win, w0lz

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:40:07 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Win wrote:
Have I ever called on the DX's frequency?

Yes.

Have I ever missed my call?

Yes.

If you haven't made these, and other mistakes, you probably haven't
been DXing long.

An occasional error is to be expected. I've certainly done all of this.

When it happens over and over and over again, that's not an occasional
error.

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.

can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?


What part of "If you cannot copy the DX, do not call" do you
misunderstand? Why?

I would say no so you are presuming to know what the other station 's
problem lack of skill vs local interfence not strong enough to
propogate

and presuming leaving one at risk of much the same as assuming

Ignorance is it's own revenge.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:29:27 GMT, "Hank Oredson"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:40:07 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Win wrote:
Have I ever called on the DX's frequency?

Yes.

Have I ever missed my call?

Yes.

If you haven't made these, and other mistakes, you probably haven't
been DXing long.

An occasional error is to be expected. I've certainly done all of this.

When it happens over and over and over again, that's not an occasional
error.

When the DX comes back to a given caller *several times* - and there's
no QRM on the DX's transmit frequency to make it difficult to copy - and
the same caller is one of the continuous callers who's been sending his
call over and over again for the last five minutes regardless of who the
DX came back to - there's a pattern. That's not an honest error; that's
being a lid.

can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?


What part of "If you cannot copy the DX, do not call" do you
misunderstand? Why?

none at all

i have simply pointed out that you nor anyone can what the other
calling station can hear

why is that so hard for you understand

I would say no so you are presuming to know what the other station 's
problem lack of skill vs local interfence not strong enough to
propogate

and presuming leaving one at risk of much the same as assuming

Ignorance is it's own revenge.

indeed

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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:49:25 -0500, wrote:


can you realy know that the other station is hearing some interference
you are not?

If the other station was hearing interference, you still wouldn't hear
him, because he/she is on a clear frequency.

Stacey, AA7YA

This scenerio has been replayed for the last hundred years
Has nothing to do with extra heavies, extra lights, and newbies
Has to do with human nature - and that has changed little for the past 2000
years

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
OK, there hasn't been much posted here lately that's actually about DX, so
here goes...

Just worked 6O0N on 20 meters CW. The QSO would have happened much faster
if not for some of the stations listed below:

6O0N: KN5??
Callers: K7LB KC6AWX KA5TQF

6O0N: VE7??
Callers: W6VM AB9H KA5TQF

6O0N: KC6AWX 5NN
Callers: several, but NOT KC6AWX!

6O0N: W9WI 5NN
Caller: K7LB
(I *did* complete the QSO successfully)

6O0N: KA5TQF 5NN
Callers: VE7AHA VE2FVD AA6W (but NOT KA5TQF!)

6O0N: WB??
Caller: AA6W

There are, of course, some patterns here. You can also rest assured the
stations mentioned weren't the only lids calling DX they apparently can't
copy. (I was listening in 500Hz bandwidth on the second receiver so only
heard about 1/4 of the pileup at any given time)

Yes, when the 6O came back to KC6AWX, and later when he came back to
KA5TQF, they didn't hear him... they were calling a DX station they
couldn't hear... I suppose that's probably not a surprise to the real
DXers on this forum... At least to TQF's credit, he did copy the 6O on
the third try...

Add to that the European station who decided to call CQ dead on top of the
6O without bothering to ask whether the frequency was in use... (but much
to my pleasant surprise, nobody but the 6O told him to QSY...)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

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