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Airy R. Bean October 12th 03 12:42 PM

Let us analyse the situation. My original joke fell on stony
ground and apart from the NEGATIVE NERDS who were
apparently present from their headers, only Reg Edwards
responded. I replied to him with a simple polite apology
and withdrawal. That should have been the end of the matter.

You then let rip with a gratuitous tirade with an emotional
style that was out of context and several pages long; the spitefulness
and spleen-venting of your post was all too apparent.

In your, rather childish, outbursts, you referred to several
previous misunderstandings (whether mendacious or not I
cannot determine) and I corrected you. This has brought forth
more silly and infantile jibes from you.

What can be the reason for this apparent emotional disturbance
that you have? There was no interaction between us until I took
a stance against the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB
licence, and ever since then you have perpetuated personal attacks.

You may deceive yourself into thinking that your recent contributions
are about clocks and watches, but their style is a simple continuation
of your silly and childish campaign lasting over several months in which
you persistently originate unnecessary gratuitous remarks. These
remarks alone would suggest that you are a CBer, or an M3/CBer at best.

To produce evidence of the undesirability of the M3/CB licence, one
only has to quote your own outbursts. That you find such outbursts
to be "too easy" says so much about your habitual rudeness.

I am not digging. I am prepared to discuss the technicalities
of timepieces with you, if you so desire, but it will
require an assurance from you that you will behave in a manner
more befitting a father of three children rather than in the
manner of an escapee from the school playground that you have
favoured recently.

You are unlikely to regain your lost face as the result of your
support for the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB licence.

Brian Reay wrote in message
...
"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
Let us not lose sight of the issue here....the M3/CB licence

Funny, I thought it was clocks?
Or was that a:
1. Typo.
2. A joke
3. A mis-posting.
Stop digging
This isn't even fun- it is too easy.





Avid D Waltson October 12th 03 12:42 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in
:

Let us consider each sneer of the turnip-brained M3.....
1. I do not attack M3/CBers. I may defend myself
against the gratuitous insults habitually emitted by such
licensees, but otherwise I speak out against the
gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB license.


Tough - it's here now - so shut up and put up!

Such
degeneration is well illustrated in this NG by those having such
a toy licence sneering at all technical matters without
understanding and without discussion. Consider the
remarks quoted below from M3OSN.....


No - this newsgroup does not require a charter or rule that technical
discussion must take place - so we can type whatever we like.

5. DSP - You sneered (as does a turnip-brained M3/CBer) at my
tentative proposal of "Big K", but were incapable of answering
my challenge to your sneer.


You rarely reply to any followups that correct you or answer your
questions though do you?

6. The time of owning an 830....


What - not a home built radio? And you - the one who pours scorn on
anything that is not home made!


Avid D Waltson October 12th 03 12:42 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in
:

Let us consider each sneer of the turnip-brained M3.....
1. I do not attack M3/CBers. I may defend myself
against the gratuitous insults habitually emitted by such
licensees, but otherwise I speak out against the
gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB license.


Tough - it's here now - so shut up and put up!

Such
degeneration is well illustrated in this NG by those having such
a toy licence sneering at all technical matters without
understanding and without discussion. Consider the
remarks quoted below from M3OSN.....


No - this newsgroup does not require a charter or rule that technical
discussion must take place - so we can type whatever we like.

5. DSP - You sneered (as does a turnip-brained M3/CBer) at my
tentative proposal of "Big K", but were incapable of answering
my challenge to your sneer.


You rarely reply to any followups that correct you or answer your
questions though do you?

6. The time of owning an 830....


What - not a home built radio? And you - the one who pours scorn on
anything that is not home made!


Airy R. Bean October 12th 03 12:55 PM

Was it not the case that the direction of swing was
unaffected by the earth's rotation, and so it's line
of oscillation seemed to swing around in a circle?

Walt Davidson wrote in message
...
When I worked at the Science Museum in the mid 1960s, one of my duties
was to start the Foucault Pendulum at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Its
purpose was to demonstrate and measure the effect of the earth's
rotation on the direction of swing of the pendulum.





Airy R. Bean October 12th 03 12:55 PM

Was it not the case that the direction of swing was
unaffected by the earth's rotation, and so it's line
of oscillation seemed to swing around in a circle?

Walt Davidson wrote in message
...
When I worked at the Science Museum in the mid 1960s, one of my duties
was to start the Foucault Pendulum at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Its
purpose was to demonstrate and measure the effect of the earth's
rotation on the direction of swing of the pendulum.





Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI October 12th 03 01:03 PM

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...

Blimey, I think I'll stick to sundials, I can understand them, I suggest
Airy does the same.


Actually, sun dials are an interesting topic in their own right. There is

a
"sundial society"- not sure of the correct name but a local SK was a

member
and made sundials to plans he got from them.

73

Brian

I found an interesting article on the web about sundials, and one particular
manufacturer who claimed that, provided you followed their installation
instructions precisely, their sundial could be read to an accuracy of one
minute!
ISTR they calculated the rotation and tilt from your latitude / longitude.
No Summer Time correction, of course, and not much use at night, unless you
use a torch!
--
;)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.



Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI October 12th 03 01:03 PM

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" wrote in message
...

Blimey, I think I'll stick to sundials, I can understand them, I suggest
Airy does the same.


Actually, sun dials are an interesting topic in their own right. There is

a
"sundial society"- not sure of the correct name but a local SK was a

member
and made sundials to plans he got from them.

73

Brian

I found an interesting article on the web about sundials, and one particular
manufacturer who claimed that, provided you followed their installation
instructions precisely, their sundial could be read to an accuracy of one
minute!
ISTR they calculated the rotation and tilt from your latitude / longitude.
No Summer Time correction, of course, and not much use at night, unless you
use a torch!
--
;)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.



Brian Reay October 12th 03 01:03 PM

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:03:10 +0100, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

tourbillion: a mechanism to prevent changes in local gravity (due to
movement) from changing the period of oscillation. Not generally required

in
a stationary clock and, even in watches, usually avoided by setting an
average rate in six positions.


When I worked at the Science Museum in the mid 1960s, one of my duties
was to start the Foucault Pendulum at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Its
purpose was to demonstrate and measure the effect of the earth's
rotation on the direction of swing of the pendulum.


It is funny how these things 'come around'.

I learned about "tourbillions" and the like as a hobby / pastime while
studying for my first degree and due to an interest in 'nice' watches (Rolex
et al) I never expected it to be useful in the 'real world'. However,
similar issues came along when working on gyro based navigation systems-
finding ways to compensate for "g terms" and "g^2 terms" in gyro drift
models, using maths and calibration procedures ( some systems rotate the
gyros on a tourbillion like mechanism but these defeat one of the objects
of a 'strapdown' system).

I never expected to use it again and along comes Gareth with his spade ;-)

73

Brian






Brian Reay October 12th 03 01:03 PM

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:03:10 +0100, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

tourbillion: a mechanism to prevent changes in local gravity (due to
movement) from changing the period of oscillation. Not generally required

in
a stationary clock and, even in watches, usually avoided by setting an
average rate in six positions.


When I worked at the Science Museum in the mid 1960s, one of my duties
was to start the Foucault Pendulum at 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Its
purpose was to demonstrate and measure the effect of the earth's
rotation on the direction of swing of the pendulum.


It is funny how these things 'come around'.

I learned about "tourbillions" and the like as a hobby / pastime while
studying for my first degree and due to an interest in 'nice' watches (Rolex
et al) I never expected it to be useful in the 'real world'. However,
similar issues came along when working on gyro based navigation systems-
finding ways to compensate for "g terms" and "g^2 terms" in gyro drift
models, using maths and calibration procedures ( some systems rotate the
gyros on a tourbillion like mechanism but these defeat one of the objects
of a 'strapdown' system).

I never expected to use it again and along comes Gareth with his spade ;-)

73

Brian






Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI October 12th 03 01:16 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote yet another load of crap in message
...
crap snipped
6. The time of owning an 830 did not coincide with the phase in
my life when I experienced a severe loss of self confidence. I explained

more crap snipped
A 'severe loss of self confidence' could also be described as an inferiority
complex. In your case Airy, you do not have an inferiority complex, you
simply ARE inferior.
(_!_)




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