On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:08:56 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote:

Besides, how many operators are going to be contesting all month? Most
I would expect will just jump on in their spare time, just as they would
for normal operating.

Are you seriously labelling the morons who indulge in this sort
of nonsense "operators"? Seriously?

73 de Jock.
--
"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET
connected
to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it
is
NOT ham radio.


No doubt similar utterances were made when spark transmitters were phased
out.

Technology moves on, that is the nature of things. No one is forcing you
to
use ILRP or any of the other modes.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898


Oh I don't think so Brian. Spark was a MODE not a different system of
sending the information.

CW is continous wave. I.E. still sending information by the same method.
I.E. over the airwaves now called RADIO.

Do you see the difference yet?

I do. And so does anyone else with a brain.

Look...new technology is fine. Old technology is also fine. But these two
things ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. Radio is Radio. Internet is Internet. Get
it?

Dan/W4NTI

"Stan" wrote in message
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET
connected
to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want, but it
is
NOT ham radio.


No doubt similar utterances were made when spark transmitters were phased
out.

Technology moves on, that is the nature of things. No one is forcing you
to
use ILRP or any of the other modes.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898


Missed the point there Brian, Dan is complaining about what the mode is
called, not the fact that it exists..

73 de Stan, G4EGH.


Thank you Stan. Perhaps my American is not up to the English standards,
eh?

Dan/W4NTI

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"Simon VK3XEM" wrote in message
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Get over it! Go back to your CW if you want, who bothers you or bags you
for using it, I know I certainly don't.


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/


Thanks for bringing this up Mate!.

My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET
connected to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want,
but it is NOT ham radio.


It is an H-T audio chat room, Dan.

- Mike KB3EIA -

As I said....call it whatever they want. But it ain't Ham Radio.

Dan/W4NTI

"nana" wrote in message
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My major problem is folks refering to interconnecting "hams" over the
internet as "ham radio". Ham radio is R A D I O . Not INTERNET
connected to Nodes then to a radio somewhere. Call it whatever you want,
but it is NOT ham radio.

Dan/W4NTI

********. That rules out repeater linking and remote shacks using any form
of landline. I hope you can convince the DXCC committee to reject all
those QSL cards from peole using remote bases.

Brad


No it does not Brad. It's not the technology it's the terminology.

Dan/W4NTI

"Chris Kirby" wrote in message
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nana wrote:

********. That rules out repeater linking and remote shacks using any form
of landline. I hope you can convince the DXCC committee to reject all
those
QSL cards from peole using remote bases.


QSL cards can be exchanged for any sort of radio contact. There are no
rules. Perfectly ok to QSL after an eQSO/Echolnk/IRLP contact. The
problem will arise for DXCC when the card does not make it clear that
the QSO was not 100% radio, and these cards are used to claim awards.

73,
--
Chris

Which opens up another area of consternation. Here it is; If you don't do
it via radio, you don't qualify for a ham RADIO award.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...
Oh I don't think so Brian. Spark was a MODE not a different system of
sending the information.

CW is continous wave. I.E. still sending information by the same method.
I.E. over the airwaves now called RADIO.

Do you see the difference yet?

I do. And so does anyone else with a brain.

Look...new technology is fine. Old technology is also fine. But these
two
things ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. Radio is Radio. Internet is Internet.
Get
it?

What I don't 'get' is why people get so 'up tight' over such things?

If people enjoy VOIP systems fine, if they don't, fine. Ditto Morse, Packet,
Phone, Repeaters, .........

I've yet to see a facet of the hobby that has adversely impacted my
enjoyment- even if is a facet that leaves me cold.

What is this urge to insist everyone does it 'your way'?

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
nk.net...

Missed the point there Brian, Dan is complaining about what the mode is
called, not the fact that it exists..

73 de Stan, G4EGH.


Thank you Stan. Perhaps my American is not up to the English standards,
eh?


Well, in that case why don't you call it something else. Then come back
when someone makes you call it by the name that upsets you.

Untill then, 'mellow out'.

In the scheme of things to worry about this must rate below which shoes I
wear tomorrow.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
nk.net...


Missed the point there Brian, Dan is complaining about what the mode is
called, not the fact that it exists..

73 de Stan, G4EGH.


Thank you Stan. Perhaps my American is not up to the English standards,
eh?

Dan/W4NTI

Your English is fine, Dan. Brian sometimes misses the point, which is
surprising, given the education he apparently received :-)

73 de Stan, G4EGH

Jock. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:08:56 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote:


Besides, how many operators are going to be contesting all month? Most
I would expect will just jump on in their spare time, just as they would
for normal operating.


Are you seriously labelling the morons who indulge in this sort
of nonsense "operators"? Seriously?

73 de Jock.

No, I am actually labeling *YOU* as a moron and **** listing you!


--
The views I present are my own and NOT of any organisation I belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
VoIP http://www.TALKonIP.com.au/