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Old October 23rd 05, 05:26 AM
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Mike Coslo wrote:



I think the idea is that person 1 transmits to the end of his block,
then person 2 transmits to the end of their block. And so on and so on.
Be just like the olde days when the "relay" meant something in ARRL.
They will need every one of those "millions" of FRS radio owners.


When a kid did you ever play the party game 'pass it on'? You know where
you whisper something in someone's ear, they then pass it on to the next
person, then the next, then the next, ect. By the time it gets to the
last person it isn't anything like the orginal message. You don't need
that when you are trying to get critical information to a destination.
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Old October 23rd 05, 05:28 AM
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you falsely stated that my post was unrelated



Maybe he meant to say *you* are unrelated.
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Old October 23rd 05, 05:33 AM
 
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:22:14 -0700, Cmdr Buzz Corey
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wrote:

Cell phone does indeed show signs of being usable as a true emergency
network


How? The entire cell network was down in NO. The only way to get cell
coverage there was out on some remote point a few people managed to get
to and make a few calls.


not accrdoing to MSNBC while the netwaork was not working for voice it
was working for text according to MSNBC

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Old October 23rd 05, 05:37 AM
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an_old_friend wrote:


the cell phone kept carry text message though out Katrina and the after
math recharging cell phone batteries became a challange but the are
ways of course


There was no cell coverage in NO after Katrina hit. Text message uses
the same cell towers as voice, if those systems are down, you don't text
message either. In situations were the signal is spotty or week, text
messages may get through when voice will not because the text messages
are sent in short packets.


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Old October 23rd 05, 06:13 AM
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LOL!! You need to save this, April 1st is still 5 1/2 months away!


"TOM" wrote in message
...
To continue the thread...

'ARRL Publishing Empire LLC' looses again and Ham radio operator couch
potatoes watch TV...

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/10/prweb293047.htm

[snip]
HARTFORD, CT (PRWEB) Oct 6, 2005 - In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina,
it's become clear that a major contributing factor to the tragic loss of
life was the near total breakdown of communication systems. Once
electricity, telephone, and cell phone services failed, people were unable
to let rescuers know of their dire situations -- and died as a result.

What could be a simple, instant, and virtually zero-cost solution?

"Establish a National SOS Radio Network (www.NationalSOS.com)," says Eric
Knight, CEO of UP Aerospace, Inc. (www.upaerospace.com). "There are
millions
of 'Family Radio Service' or 'FRS' radios already in use by the public for
camping, boating, and hiking, and there are 675,000 licensed ham radio
operators in America -- people renown and prepared for emergency
communications. The output frequencies of FRS radios are easily received
by
the radio gear ham radio operators use daily. That's the magic link in
this
emergency communication strategy."

Knight went on to say, "The best part of a National SOS Radio Network is
that it wouldn't require new laws or any new legislation whatsoever. It
could go into effect, today. Once the ham radio community is made aware to
listen for the public's emergency broadcasts on an FRS frequency, the
national network will be up and running. It's as simple as that."
[snip]

So... it will be the FRS that will respond to the needs of a national
frequency for emergency communications and not the amateur
community---lets
see you blame that on the loss of telegraphy.

TOM




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Old October 23rd 05, 01:24 PM
 
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M. wrote:
LOL!! You need to save this, April 1st is still 5 1/2 months away!


Everybody's talking about pop music!


"TOM" wrote in message
...
To continue the thread...

'ARRL Publishing Empire LLC' looses again and Ham radio operator couch
potatoes watch TV...

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/10/prweb293047.htm

[snip]
HARTFORD, CT (PRWEB) Oct 6, 2005 - In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina,
it's become clear that a major contributing factor to the tragic loss of
life was the near total breakdown of communication systems. Once
electricity, telephone, and cell phone services failed, people were unable
to let rescuers know of their dire situations -- and died as a result.

What could be a simple, instant, and virtually zero-cost solution?

"Establish a National SOS Radio Network (www.NationalSOS.com)," says Eric
Knight, CEO of UP Aerospace, Inc. (www.upaerospace.com). "There are
millions
of 'Family Radio Service' or 'FRS' radios already in use by the public for
camping, boating, and hiking, and there are 675,000 licensed ham radio
operators in America -- people renown and prepared for emergency
communications. The output frequencies of FRS radios are easily received
by
the radio gear ham radio operators use daily. That's the magic link in
this
emergency communication strategy."

Knight went on to say, "The best part of a National SOS Radio Network is
that it wouldn't require new laws or any new legislation whatsoever. It
could go into effect, today. Once the ham radio community is made aware to
listen for the public's emergency broadcasts on an FRS frequency, the
national network will be up and running. It's as simple as that."
[snip]

So... it will be the FRS that will respond to the needs of a national
frequency for emergency communications and not the amateur
community---lets
see you blame that on the loss of telegraphy.

TOM



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Mike Coslo wrote:

You toss the "liar" pejorative around when someone voices an opinion,
and you tell people to shut up when they express an opinion.


Sucks when people do that, doesn't it?

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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Everybody is a LIAR and everybody is WRONG. My name is Markie.


Hi Steve. Been mentoring Mark?

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Old October 23rd 05, 01:41 PM
 
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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

I think the idea is that person 1 transmits to the end of his block,
then person 2 transmits to the end of their block. And so on and so on.
Be just like the olde days when the "relay" meant something in ARRL.
They will need every one of those "millions" of FRS radio owners.


When a kid did you ever play the party game 'pass it on'? You know where
you whisper something in someone's ear, they then pass it on to the next
person, then the next, then the next, ect. By the time it gets to the
last person it isn't anything like the orginal message. You don't need
that when you are trying to get critical information to a destination.


So the "Relay" in ARRL is a useless construct?

Wunnerful in theory, useless in practice?

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