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Old April 25th 04, 11:08 PM
Lou
 
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I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck. Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou



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Old April 25th 04, 11:40 PM
Michael Black
 
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"Lou" ) writes:
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck. Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou



But they were never popular. Occasionally, there'd be an article in the hobby
and/or ham magazines about them, but they rarely made it into published
construction articles. Sure, that doesn't reflect whether or not something
is used commercially, but it does suggest that there was something about
them that never caught on.

The question to ask is why you need the four terminal regulators.
What is it that makes you want to use one instead of a three terminal
regulator? The LM317 (and 337 for negative voltages) is a variable
three terminal regulator, and far more common, not just now but
forever. Not enough current (though I didn't think the 4 terminal
regulators were particular better than the average 3 terminal regulator
in that regard)? Then pick a regulator that does have better than
usual current. You could find them years ago, though not so commonly,
and I can't think why they wouldn't be around still. Or use an
external transistor to boost current. Or there is something verys
specific about the four-terminal regulator that you need, but in order
to come up with a workaround, you need to be specific of the need.

If you just need a regulator, virtually anything will fit in there,
and you just wire it properly and ignore the fourth terminal.

Michael VE2BVW


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Old April 25th 04, 11:40 PM
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"Lou" ) writes:
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck. Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou



But they were never popular. Occasionally, there'd be an article in the hobby
and/or ham magazines about them, but they rarely made it into published
construction articles. Sure, that doesn't reflect whether or not something
is used commercially, but it does suggest that there was something about
them that never caught on.

The question to ask is why you need the four terminal regulators.
What is it that makes you want to use one instead of a three terminal
regulator? The LM317 (and 337 for negative voltages) is a variable
three terminal regulator, and far more common, not just now but
forever. Not enough current (though I didn't think the 4 terminal
regulators were particular better than the average 3 terminal regulator
in that regard)? Then pick a regulator that does have better than
usual current. You could find them years ago, though not so commonly,
and I can't think why they wouldn't be around still. Or use an
external transistor to boost current. Or there is something verys
specific about the four-terminal regulator that you need, but in order
to come up with a workaround, you need to be specific of the need.

If you just need a regulator, virtually anything will fit in there,
and you just wire it properly and ignore the fourth terminal.

Michael VE2BVW


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Old April 25th 04, 11:52 PM
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"Lou" wrote in message
...
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


Lou -

I see from the Internet that this is not a new question.

] UA78HCSC and UA78HG
]
] Both of these numbers were found on 2 separate yet supposedly identical
] parts/units. They were 4 pin regulators used in a 5-15VDC 7 AMP Power
] Supply. Now, the HG number came from the manual itself for the power
supply
] I purchased originally. The HCSC was on a spare unit I bought - found on
] E-Bay about a year ago. It may have been replaced and for all I know not
] quite up to par with the HG. I've never run the spare unit through it's
] paces yet. I don't have any listings to confirm or deny this. BUT if
someone
] has these parts and willing to sell them, or know of a source thereof, I'd
] be happy to hear from them. OR something equivalent. As the other
gentleman
] alluded to, I don't want to have to "redesign" these power supplies.

IF this regulator is a TO-3 case, why not use a National LM317 (or 350, 338)
adjustable regulator?
It comes in a TO-220 and TO-3 case style (as well as number of surface
mounts)
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html

Fairchild spec sheet
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/LM/LM317.pdf

LM-317 tutorial
http://casemods.pointofnoreturn.org/...rial-full.html

On-line LM-317 designer
http://www.qsl.net/ok1duo/lm317.htm

Over voltage protection (add-on)
http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...r/car_conv.htm

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...ower/lm317.htm

A higher current design (using 2N3055 pass transistors)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...den/page12.htm

w9gb







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Old April 25th 04, 11:52 PM
G.Beat
 
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"Lou" wrote in message
...
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


Lou -

I see from the Internet that this is not a new question.

] UA78HCSC and UA78HG
]
] Both of these numbers were found on 2 separate yet supposedly identical
] parts/units. They were 4 pin regulators used in a 5-15VDC 7 AMP Power
] Supply. Now, the HG number came from the manual itself for the power
supply
] I purchased originally. The HCSC was on a spare unit I bought - found on
] E-Bay about a year ago. It may have been replaced and for all I know not
] quite up to par with the HG. I've never run the spare unit through it's
] paces yet. I don't have any listings to confirm or deny this. BUT if
someone
] has these parts and willing to sell them, or know of a source thereof, I'd
] be happy to hear from them. OR something equivalent. As the other
gentleman
] alluded to, I don't want to have to "redesign" these power supplies.

IF this regulator is a TO-3 case, why not use a National LM317 (or 350, 338)
adjustable regulator?
It comes in a TO-220 and TO-3 case style (as well as number of surface
mounts)
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html

Fairchild spec sheet
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/LM/LM317.pdf

LM-317 tutorial
http://casemods.pointofnoreturn.org/...rial-full.html

On-line LM-317 designer
http://www.qsl.net/ok1duo/lm317.htm

Over voltage protection (add-on)
http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...r/car_conv.htm

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...ower/lm317.htm

A higher current design (using 2N3055 pass transistors)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...den/page12.htm

w9gb









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Old April 25th 04, 11:57 PM
G.Beat
 
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"Lou" wrote in message
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I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


The LM396 is another possibility, capable of 10 amps - BUT is limited to 15
volts
http://www.assistlab.co.kr/contents/.../lm196_396.pdf

Construction & Theory
http://www.qsl.net/vk5br/PowerSup.htm

gb


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"Lou" wrote in message
...
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


The LM396 is another possibility, capable of 10 amps - BUT is limited to 15
volts
http://www.assistlab.co.kr/contents/.../lm196_396.pdf

Construction & Theory
http://www.qsl.net/vk5br/PowerSup.htm

gb


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Lou
 
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Thanks. I'll look into it.

Lou


"G.Beat" wrote in message
news:BiXic.33928$w96.2409259@attbi_s54...
"Lou" wrote in message
...
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production

anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this

thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


Lou -

I see from the Internet that this is not a new question.

] UA78HCSC and UA78HG
]
] Both of these numbers were found on 2 separate yet supposedly identical
] parts/units. They were 4 pin regulators used in a 5-15VDC 7 AMP Power
] Supply. Now, the HG number came from the manual itself for the power
supply
] I purchased originally. The HCSC was on a spare unit I bought - found on
] E-Bay about a year ago. It may have been replaced and for all I know not
] quite up to par with the HG. I've never run the spare unit through it's
] paces yet. I don't have any listings to confirm or deny this. BUT if
someone
] has these parts and willing to sell them, or know of a source thereof,

I'd
] be happy to hear from them. OR something equivalent. As the other
gentleman
] alluded to, I don't want to have to "redesign" these power supplies.

IF this regulator is a TO-3 case, why not use a National LM317 (or 350,

338)
adjustable regulator?
It comes in a TO-220 and TO-3 case style (as well as number of surface
mounts)
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html

Fairchild spec sheet
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/LM/LM317.pdf

LM-317 tutorial
http://casemods.pointofnoreturn.org/...rial-full.html

On-line LM-317 designer
http://www.qsl.net/ok1duo/lm317.htm

Over voltage protection (add-on)
http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...r/car_conv.htm

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...ower/lm317.htm

A higher current design (using 2N3055 pass transistors)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...den/page12.htm

w9gb









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Lou
 
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Thanks. I'll look into it.

Lou


"G.Beat" wrote in message
news:BiXic.33928$w96.2409259@attbi_s54...
"Lou" wrote in message
...
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular
number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production

anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.
Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use
any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply
going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this

thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce
something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could
build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou


Lou -

I see from the Internet that this is not a new question.

] UA78HCSC and UA78HG
]
] Both of these numbers were found on 2 separate yet supposedly identical
] parts/units. They were 4 pin regulators used in a 5-15VDC 7 AMP Power
] Supply. Now, the HG number came from the manual itself for the power
supply
] I purchased originally. The HCSC was on a spare unit I bought - found on
] E-Bay about a year ago. It may have been replaced and for all I know not
] quite up to par with the HG. I've never run the spare unit through it's
] paces yet. I don't have any listings to confirm or deny this. BUT if
someone
] has these parts and willing to sell them, or know of a source thereof,

I'd
] be happy to hear from them. OR something equivalent. As the other
gentleman
] alluded to, I don't want to have to "redesign" these power supplies.

IF this regulator is a TO-3 case, why not use a National LM317 (or 350,

338)
adjustable regulator?
It comes in a TO-220 and TO-3 case style (as well as number of surface
mounts)
http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM317.html

Fairchild spec sheet
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/LM/LM317.pdf

LM-317 tutorial
http://casemods.pointofnoreturn.org/...rial-full.html

On-line LM-317 designer
http://www.qsl.net/ok1duo/lm317.htm

Over voltage protection (add-on)
http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...r/car_conv.htm

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/Ci...ower/lm317.htm

A higher current design (using 2N3055 pass transistors)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...den/page12.htm

w9gb









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Old April 26th 04, 01:06 AM
Lou
 
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As I tried to imply, I thought I would take a last shot to try to find the
"exact" match. Seemed to me, someone once suggested that these units were
still selling over in the UK. Failing that, I would have to redesign this
thing to work another way. The ideas submitted are great and well... it's
off to the parts bins to see what I can scare up. My luck, everything but
what I need.

Thanks again for all replies. It is appreciated.

Lou


"Michael Black" wrote in message
...
"Lou" ) writes:
I've been looking for a 4 pin voltage regulator. I have a particular

number
in mind (uA78HG), but so far as I know, they're not in production

anymore.
I've looked in a couple places on line for a 4 pin job, with no luck.

Since
the one I "need" seems to be gone for good, right now I'm willing to use

any
12 vdc - 15 vdc 1 Amp or more voltage regulator to get my power supply

going
to any extent - rather than leaving it collect dust or tearing it apart.

Failing finding a VR of my needs, I guess I'll have to redesign this

thing
to work some other way. I thought a last minute search may produce

something
to make life easier. Any ideas? With all the crap I have here, I could

build
a few power supplies (probably). But never ever - do I have the part "I"
need.

Lou



But they were never popular. Occasionally, there'd be an article in the

hobby
and/or ham magazines about them, but they rarely made it into published
construction articles. Sure, that doesn't reflect whether or not

something
is used commercially, but it does suggest that there was something about
them that never caught on.

The question to ask is why you need the four terminal regulators.
What is it that makes you want to use one instead of a three terminal
regulator? The LM317 (and 337 for negative voltages) is a variable
three terminal regulator, and far more common, not just now but
forever. Not enough current (though I didn't think the 4 terminal
regulators were particular better than the average 3 terminal regulator
in that regard)? Then pick a regulator that does have better than
usual current. You could find them years ago, though not so commonly,
and I can't think why they wouldn't be around still. Or use an
external transistor to boost current. Or there is something verys
specific about the four-terminal regulator that you need, but in order
to come up with a workaround, you need to be specific of the need.

If you just need a regulator, virtually anything will fit in there,
and you just wire it properly and ignore the fourth terminal.

Michael VE2BVW




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