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Do it the way the original radio did it -- dynamotor. You can still find
them in the back room at a lot of military surplus electronics junk stores.

Jim


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Hello Jim,

Do it the way the original radio did it -- dynamotor. You can still find
them in the back room at a lot of military surplus electronics junk stores.


But then be prepared for some major restoration. The bearings of a lot
of these are nearly shot, mostly from sitting in an attic for decades.
It's like old pond pumps. They run fine for a few weeks and then the
racket increases, some weird noises appear, things get hot and they
seize up.

I restored an old Hammond organ. These generate the tones in a similar
manner. A motor (plus a start motor) and over a hundred pickup coils on
the long secondary shaft. 20 hours of hard work got it going again but
we have accepted the fact that some of the bearings are pretty much over
the hill. So it needs 2-3 starts to coax it to run without that mild
screeching in the background. Getting spare parts from a company that
went out of business 30 years ago just isn't going to happen.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:58:18 GMT in sci.electronics.design,
(John Crighton) wrote,
This link tells you how to use the TL494 IC
http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slva001d/slva001d.pdf

So why is the guy from TI showing NTE transistors for the power
switching? Nothing in the TIP line good enough?


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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:59:56 +0000, Joerg wrote:
Hello Jim,

Do it the way the original radio did it -- dynamotor. You can still find
them in the back room at a lot of military surplus electronics junk stores.


But then be prepared for some major restoration. The bearings of a lot
of these are nearly shot, mostly from sitting in an attic for decades.
It's like old pond pumps. They run fine for a few weeks and then the
racket increases, some weird noises appear, things get hot and they
seize up.

I restored an old Hammond organ. These generate the tones in a similar
manner. A motor (plus a start motor) and over a hundred pickup coils on
the long secondary shaft. 20 hours of hard work got it going again but
we have accepted the fact that some of the bearings are pretty much over
the hill. So it needs 2-3 starts to coax it to run without that mild
screeching in the background. Getting spare parts from a company that
went out of business 30 years ago just isn't going to happen.


So, put the cam thingie on some sort of spindle, with some kind of
depth gauge thingie, (maybe a slide pot and a stick), and map the
disks, and just make the same waveform from ROM?

Good Luck!
Rich

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Hello Rich,

I restored an old Hammond organ. These generate the tones in a similar
manner. A motor (plus a start motor) and over a hundred pickup coils on
the long secondary shaft. 20 hours of hard work got it going again but
we have accepted the fact that some of the bearings are pretty much over
the hill. So it needs 2-3 starts to coax it to run without that mild
screeching in the background. Getting spare parts from a company that
went out of business 30 years ago just isn't going to happen.


So, put the cam thingie on some sort of spindle, with some kind of
depth gauge thingie, (maybe a slide pot and a stick), and map the
disks, and just make the same waveform from ROM?


That has been tried many times. Several rather expensive electronic
organs have come out claiming to emulate a Hammond. So far the real
enthusiasts do anything to get their hands on the real thing, knowing
that there will come a day when the last one croaks. IIRC it was Paul
Shaffer (the guy who makes the music at david Letterman's show) who
spent the equivalent of a luxury car to have one restored.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com


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"David Harmon" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:58:18 GMT in sci.electronics.design,
(John Crighton) wrote,
This link tells you how to use the TL494 IC
http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slva001d/slva001d.pdf

So why is the guy from TI showing NTE transistors for the power
switching? Nothing in the TIP line good enough?



Probably good enough for his measly 32 volts. I need to modify that
circuit to work on outputs of 90 volts and 6 volts.


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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:27:31 +0000, Joerg wrote:

Hello Rich,

I restored an old Hammond organ. These generate the tones in a similar
manner. A motor (plus a start motor) and over a hundred pickup coils on
the long secondary shaft. 20 hours of hard work got it going again but
we have accepted the fact that some of the bearings are pretty much over
the hill. So it needs 2-3 starts to coax it to run without that mild
screeching in the background. Getting spare parts from a company that
went out of business 30 years ago just isn't going to happen.


So, put the cam thingie on some sort of spindle, with some kind of
depth gauge thingie, (maybe a slide pot and a stick), and map the
disks, and just make the same waveform from ROM?


That has been tried many times. Several rather expensive electronic
organs have come out claiming to emulate a Hammond. So far the real
enthusiasts do anything to get their hands on the real thing, knowing
that there will come a day when the last one croaks. IIRC it was Paul
Shaffer (the guy who makes the music at david Letterman's show) who
spent the equivalent of a luxury car to have one restored.


Well, tastes vary, but really! Who wants a music box that makes it
sound like you're at a skating rink? ;-P

cheers!
Rich


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Old December 27th 05, 11:53 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.design
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Hello Rich,

Well, tastes vary, but really! Who wants a music box that makes it
sound like you're at a skating rink? ;-P


Ok, I am not much of an expert on instruments or music in general. But a
Hammond organ can fill a living room with a sound that, with the eyes
closed, you'd think you are sitting in a cathedral. And lots of rock
bands wouldn't use anything else. That is why a lot of Hammonds have
been "sawed in halves" so they can be transported to the next gig. You
could even buy split versions built into professional transport cases.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
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Joerg wrote:

Hello Rich,

Well, tastes vary, but really! Who wants a music box that makes it
sound like you're at a skating rink? ;-P


Ok, I am not much of an expert on instruments or music in general. But a
Hammond organ can fill a living room with a sound that, with the eyes
closed, you'd think you are sitting in a cathedral. And lots of rock
bands wouldn't use anything else. That is why a lot of Hammonds have
been "sawed in halves" so they can be transported to the next gig. You
could even buy split versions built into professional transport cases.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com



They have a Hammond B3 at my church, with the Leslie speaker. There
is another model Hammond in storage that needs a lot of work. Someone
had it on their screened in porch and the finish is ruined, but it still
plays.

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prove it.
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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"Rich Grise, but drunk" wrote:

Well, tastes vary, but really! Who wants a music box that makes it
sound like you're at a skating rink? ;-P

cheers!
Rich



People like the old Hammond organs like the B3 because the can't go
out of tune. The mechanical tone generator makes sure of that. They
only sound like a skating rink in, get this, A SKATING RINK!

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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