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On Aug 18, 4:37 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete
tower base and look at 'em any time I choose.


"The Wilmington & Western Railroad, owned and operated by Historic Red
Clay Valley, Incorporated (HRCV), has recently installed a "brick
paver" platform at Greenbank Station. This platform provides our
passengers with solid footing when boarding and alighting from trains,
and it connects Greenbank Station with the Red Clay Valley Visitor's
Center, located in the former Yorklyn Station.

You can purchase an engraved paver to publicly show your support for
the Wilmington & Western. 100 percent of the purchase price goes to
the Railroad, and every cent is tax-deductible. Each engraved paver is
limited to three, 15-space lines, at a cost of $100."

http://www.wwrr.com/home.htm


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Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.



In the money raising game, it becomes difficult to come up with good
ideas to raise that cash. Membership fees are one way. But when extra is
needed, new ideas are needed. Sometimes a group will offer "lifetime"
memberships. These can generate a bit more spending money. Those are a
good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time ago,
(what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long gone.

So the engraved brick thing is one of the ways that ARRL and others use
to keep things interesting. I've seen it on other places such as fishing
piers like the one in Flagler beach Florida, where the pier gets knocked
down by a hurricane every ten years or so. So they have a "buy a plank"
effort. You "buy" one, and your name gets routed into the plank for all
to see. The pier is rebuilt, and everyone is happy. You can even buy a
bench or pier shelter.

The nice thing is that even those who do not buy a plank or other item
are welcome to use the pier.

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Michael Coslo writes:



In the money raising game, it becomes difficult to come up with good
ideas to raise that cash. Membership fees are one way. But when extra is
needed, new ideas are needed. Sometimes a group will offer "lifetime"
memberships. These can generate a bit more spending money. Those are a
good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time ago,
(what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long gone.


I think it was $170.00 that I paid in 1971...
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David Lesher wrote:
Michael Coslo writes:



In the money raising game, it becomes difficult to come up with good
ideas to raise that cash. Membership fees are one way. But when extra is
needed, new ideas are needed. Sometimes a group will offer "lifetime"
memberships. These can generate a bit more spending money. Those are a
good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time ago,
(what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long gone.


I think it was $170.00 that I paid in 1971...



There ya go! Assuming that you joined at this time that year, your
membership has cost $4.72 per year, and can only get smaller! Not a bad
deal at all. My thoughts are that while that money was probably pretty
handy for them in 1971, it was just one time money, and then a sort of
deficit thereafter.


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On Aug 22, 1:44 pm, Michael Coslo wrote:
David Lesher wrote:
Michael Coslo writes:


In the money raising game, it becomes difficult to come up with good
ideas to raise that cash. Membership fees are one way. But when extra is
needed, new ideas are needed. Sometimes a group will offer "lifetime"
memberships. These can generate a bit more spending money. Those are a
good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time ago,
(what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long gone.


I think it was $170.00 that I paid in 1971...


There ya go! Assuming that you joined at this time that year, your
membership has cost $4.72 per year, and can only get smaller! Not a bad
deal at all. My thoughts are that while that money was probably pretty
handy for them in 1971, it was just one time money, and then a sort of
deficit thereafter.


Those monies have been invested over the years and have become a
helluva wad.

- 73 de mike KB3EIA -


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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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Those are a good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time
ago, (what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long
gone.


The money isn't "long gone". Conventional practice for nonprofits is to invest
'life member' funds in a trust and withdraw based on an actuarial model.

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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved with the
call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will take a 35 cent
brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred bucks to place it
someplace where the donor will likely never have a chance to enjoy his pricey
purchase.


Give a 5-dollar bill to a Legionaire, and they'll present you with a 3-cent
paper poppy. It's a "token" of your donation, just like the 35-cent brick.

The Man in the Maze
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Iitoi wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved with the
call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will take a 35 cent
brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred bucks to place it
someplace where the donor will likely never have a chance to enjoy his pricey
purchase.


Give a 5-dollar bill to a Legionaire, and they'll present you with a 3-cent
paper poppy. It's a "token" of your donation, just like the 35-cent brick.


Actually, the Legionaire will just say thanks. A VFW member will give
you a poppy--even for a dime or a quarter.

Dave K8MN

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