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I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete
tower base and look at 'em any time I choose.

Dave K8MN


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Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete
tower base and look at 'em any time I choose.

Dave K8MN


Hmm... if you add a brick for every memorable station you worked (DX,
ragchew, etc), you'll eventually have a large patio! ;^)
Bryan WA7PRC


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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:37:27 EDT, Dave Heil
wrote:

I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase.


What's the difference between that and the "John Smith Memorial
Chapel" or the "Bessie Jones Dining Room" at any other institution?
Personally, I don't want to be remembered by the "Phil Kane Toilet
Seat" but doing those brick things are a legit fundraising technique
nowadays, no different from selling dedications and memorial plaques
in the name of donors at many schools and congregations.
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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest

Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net

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Bryan wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete
tower base and look at 'em any time I choose.

Dave K8MN


Hmm... if you add a brick for every memorable station you worked (DX,
ragchew, etc), you'll eventually have a large patio! ;^)
Bryan WA7PRC


You're on to something. If I put the call of each station I worked
during the years I operated from Africa, I could brick the whole acre
and never have to mow again!

Dave K8MN


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I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved with
the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will take a 35
cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred bucks to
place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a chance to enjoy
his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money Honey) came aboard,
the ARRL has been all about raising money through a number of elitist
schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete tower
base and look at 'em any time I choose.

Dave K8MN


Dave:

I am not a fan of many things the ARRL does, but I really don't see the
objection to this scheme. It is not like the ARRL is fooling anyone.

Paul AB0SI




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Phil Kane wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:37:27 EDT, Dave Heil
wrote:

I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase.


What's the difference between that and the "John Smith Memorial
Chapel" or the "Bessie Jones Dining Room" at any other institution?


Very little, though I can pray at John's and eat at Bessie's. The best
I can do with the Diamond Terrace is hike to Newington and walk on the
bricks--or have someone send me a photo.

Personally, I don't want to be remembered by the "Phil Kane Toilet
Seat" but doing those brick things are a legit fundraising technique
nowadays...


Sure, Phil. "Legit" it is. There's a historic railway baggage building
here and the local historical society is selling the same bricks you get
for the Diamond Terrace, only they're fifty bucks each and I can see 'em
anytime I want.

...no different from selling dedications and memorial plaques
in the name of donors at many schools and congregations.


I'm holding out for my name on the Men's Room at the Madonna Inn between
San Francisco and L.A. on the 101.

Dave K8MN

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On Aug 18, 4:37 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.

I have some bricks and I just put up another tower. I think I'll buy a
little sand, use my Dremel tool and engrave the callsigns of silent keys
whom I remember fondly. I can place the bricks around the concrete
tower base and look at 'em any time I choose.


"The Wilmington & Western Railroad, owned and operated by Historic Red
Clay Valley, Incorporated (HRCV), has recently installed a "brick
paver" platform at Greenbank Station. This platform provides our
passengers with solid footing when boarding and alighting from trains,
and it connects Greenbank Station with the Red Clay Valley Visitor's
Center, located in the former Yorklyn Station.

You can purchase an engraved paver to publicly show your support for
the Wilmington & Western. 100 percent of the purchase price goes to
the Railroad, and every cent is tax-deductible. Each engraved paver is
limited to three, 15-space lines, at a cost of $100."

http://www.wwrr.com/home.htm


Dave K8MN


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Dave Heil wrote:
I don't mind the idea that someone will be walking on bricks engraved
with the call of a silent key. I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase. Since Mary Hobart (K1 More Money
Honey) came aboard, the ARRL has been all about raising money through a
number of elitist schemes.



In the money raising game, it becomes difficult to come up with good
ideas to raise that cash. Membership fees are one way. But when extra is
needed, new ideas are needed. Sometimes a group will offer "lifetime"
memberships. These can generate a bit more spending money. Those are a
good deal for someone who became a lifetime member a long time ago,
(what did a lifetime membership cost in 1970?) but that money is long gone.

So the engraved brick thing is one of the ways that ARRL and others use
to keep things interesting. I've seen it on other places such as fishing
piers like the one in Flagler beach Florida, where the pier gets knocked
down by a hurricane every ten years or so. So they have a "buy a plank"
effort. You "buy" one, and your name gets routed into the plank for all
to see. The pier is rebuilt, and everyone is happy. You can even buy a
bench or pier shelter.

The nice thing is that even those who do not buy a plank or other item
are welcome to use the pier.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Phil Kane wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:37:27 EDT, Dave Heil
wrote:

I mind the idea that the League will
take a 35 cent brick, engrave it and charge someone a couple of hundred
bucks to place it someplace where the donor will likely never have a
chance to enjoy his pricey purchase.


What's the difference between that and the "John Smith Memorial
Chapel" or the "Bessie Jones Dining Room" at any other institution?
Personally, I don't want to be remembered by the "Phil Kane Toilet
Seat" but doing those brick things are a legit fundraising technique
nowadays, no different from selling dedications and memorial plaques
in the name of donors at many schools and congregations.



It is a revenue generating technique that is becoming increasingly
popular. We have a restored theater in town that raised funds this way.
There are some sports venues in the area that have donors plaques posted
in their facility - including bronze, silver, and gold donor plaques
obviously based on how much money was donated.

While I can understand that some might consider it a vanity thing, I
also know that without those donors, there probably wouldn't be a
facility or theater for people to use.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message


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: : It is a revenue generating technique that is becoming
: : increasingly popular. We have a restored theater in
: : town that raised funds this way. There are some sports
: : venues in the area that have donors plaques posted in
: : their facility - including bronze, silver, and gold
: : donor plaques obviously based on how much money was
: : donated.
: :
: : While I can understand that some might consider it a
: : vanity thing, I also know that without those donors,
: : there probably wouldn't be a facility or theater for
: : people to use.
: :
: : - 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

I can see where they're going with it, but I agree with Dave - if I were
to donate money in this way, I'd rather like to be able to see it from
time to time.

Here in the UK I live very close to the National Motorcycle Museum where
they have all manner of old British bikes going right back to around 1902.
They invite funding in exactly this way, with the names of people who
donate going up on a wall. I live close enough to visit and see it
whenever I want, but others don't.

73 Ivor G6URP



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