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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:51:51 EDT, Steve Bonine wrote:
I would like to see the flexibility in a piece of equipment that I just shelled out big bucks for to keep me from doing this, That separates the "Compleat Ham" who is in control of the station from the "appliance operator". while at the same time giving me the flexibility to program the segments that apply to my license class or if I take the rig to a different location where the rules are different. An interesting thought. Or maybe this is already a feature of the new rigs. I wouldn't know, not having bought any HF equipment in this century. I acquired an Elecraft K2/100 about 18 months ago. It has been augmented by the K3 now. Both are top-of-the-line HF rigs in kit or modular form (think of a Heathkit on steroids). Neither has the feature that you are describing. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net |
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"Phil Kane" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:51:51 EDT, Steve Bonine wrote: I would like to see the flexibility in a piece of equipment that I just shelled out big bucks for to keep me from doing this, That separates the "Compleat Ham" who is in control of the station from the "appliance operator". while at the same time giving me the flexibility to program the segments that apply to my license class or if I take the rig to a different location where the rules are different. An interesting thought. Or maybe this is already a feature of the new rigs. I wouldn't know, not having bought any HF equipment in this century. You can program many new rigs to auto mode switch based on frequency but they also allow you override that auto mode at any time. Dee, N8UZE |
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" The radio has to be set for "SSB" to use AFSK. The effect on the receiving end is identical to using FSK and so is a perfectly legal way to do RTTY.. If you put this as a "hard point" in the radio, you eliminate using AFSK for RTTY. Something along the lines of the "law of unintended consequences". Dee, N8UZE Indeed, it is also a problem if you use the HF set as the driver for a transverter to a band where the bandplan is entirely different. 73 Jeff |
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On Nov 1, 12:51?pm, Steve Bonine wrote:
wrote: So it makes sense to require us to know the regs rather than expecting our rigs to prevent our mistakes. I agree with this, but it brought a question to my mind. The new generation of HF transceivers -- the ones that have quite a bit of computing ability built in -- do they have the ability to enforce sub-bands? I don't know of any that do, in terms of subbands-by-mode or subbands- by-license-class. But I don't think it would be a big feat of software engineering to have a lookup table that compared the mode selection with the transmit frequency, and allowed transmission only if the selection was in the lookup table. Certainly they *could* have that ability, since they already "know" the band edges and in most cases won't allow you to transmit completely outside a band allocation, but why not support the next step and not allow SSB in the CW band? As N8UZE points out, this would limit flexibility, because all sorts of "soundcard data modes" are often implemented by putting the rig in SSB mode and feeding audio into it. This may become less of a problem as more rigs incorporate data modes internally. (The Elecraft K3 can send and receive RTTY and PSK31 without a computer, monitor, or keyboard). I don't think that most folks who find themselves doing something stupid like using SSB outside of the US sub-bands do so because they don't know the regulations. They get caught up in the excitement of a contest or chasing DX or their mind slips out of gear, and when they realize what they've just done they feel about two inches tall. With all due respect, if someone forgets the regs by being caught up in the excitement, they really don't know them in a practical sense. I would like to see the flexibility in a piece of equipment that I just shelled out big bucks for to keep me from doing this, while at the same time giving me the flexibility to program the segments that apply to my license class or if I take the rig to a different location where the rules are different. The second problem is that, for flexibility, you'd have to include the ability to defeat/disable the feature. Which means it could be left in the off position unintentionally, and provide no protection. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Nov 2, 2:04?pm, Phil Kane wrote:
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:44:34 EDT, wrote: (The Elecraft K3 can send and receive RTTY and PSK31 without a computer, monitor, or keyboard). Couple of other modes, too. See the website - the manual is online now: www.elecraft.com Good trick. I can see using the front-panel display for the monitor but how does one input alphanumeric characters without a keyboard of sorts? You send Morse Code to the rig and it translates/encodes the Morse into the PSK31, RTTY, etc. Paddles are the usual input device. Built in, not an add-on device. The decoder is reputedly very good too, its only limitation being the limited display space. Then again, what do I know? I'm just as lowly K2 "appliance operator" ggg bwaahaahaaa.... 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Nov 2, 2:04?pm, Phil Kane wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:44:34 EDT, wrote: (The Elecraft K3 can send and receive RTTY and PSK31 without a computer, monitor, or keyboard). Couple of other modes, too. See the website - the manual is online now: www.elecraft.com Good trick. I can see using the front-panel display for the monitor but how does one input alphanumeric characters without a keyboard of sorts? You send Morse Code to the rig and it translates/encodes the Morse into the PSK31, RTTY, etc. Paddles are the usual input device. That is pretty darn clever. Does it have any special characters for backing up/corrections? I don't know if you've ever done it or not, but I suspect that it would be really easy to drop into "cw speak", which might be a little strnge for us native psk'ers. In any event, props go out to Elecraft for an innovative solution. - 73 de Mike KB3EIA - |
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On Nov 5, 4:03?pm, Michael Coslo wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:44:34 EDT, wrote: (The Elecraft K3 can send and receive RTTY and PSK31 without a computer, monitor, or keyboard). Couple of other modes, too. See the website - the manual is online now: www.elecraft.com You send Morse Code to the rig and it translates/encodes the Morse into the PSK31, RTTY, etc. Paddles are the usual input device. That is pretty darn clever. Yup. Of course it means you have to know how to send Morse Code in order to do PSK31 or RTTY without a keyboard, but still..... Does it have any special characters for backing up/corrections? Check the manual. It's interesting reading. I don't know if you've ever done it or not, but I suspect that it would be really easy to drop into "cw speak", which might be a little strnge for us native psk'ers. O RLY? In any event, props go out to Elecraft for an innovative solution. They've got a lot of them. Their manuals are worth a read just for the ingenuity that went into the rig designs. I got a chance to use a KX1 on Field Day this year. Amazing little rig. Complete with accessory paddles, it's about the size of a stack of QSL cards. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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