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Scotty, I need more power
It started on Saturday night, with a finger-poke and my wife saying
"Bill, the power is out". It ended at about three am today, when I noticed that the streetlight was on and I went and threw the transfer switch back to commercial power. I leaned a lot during the power failure, and I invite comments and discussion to help other hams who are preparing for the coming winter and for public service events. My first response to my wife's report was to tell her that there is a flashlight on top of my tool chest in the cellar, and to roll over and pull the blanket tighter. That was the first of many mistakes I made in the next 57 hours. ;-) We have a large candle on the headboard of our bed, which I placed there last year so as to have light during a power failure. So, when I was told that I was expected to do something about the blackout, and that my tool chest was too far away to reach in the dark, I naturally assumed that the candle would provide adequate lighting. In times past, most American men would have a cigarette lighter or a book of matches in their pants pocket. Times have changed, and I with them, so I don't carry matches as a rule. I therefore went on a groping expedition to try to find some matches to light the candle so that I could find my way to the flashlight and thereafter to a solution for my lack of sleep and my wife's need to arise at 5 am. I have an electric stove, so there was no pilot light burning from which I could light a candle. My hot-water heater has a pilot flame, but it is located next to my tool chest in the basement of my home, and seemed a long way away at that moment. After a few minutes of debate, we compromised: I was able to find a battery-operated alarm clock that I keep for travel, and set it up for the appropriate hour thanks to it's internal push-button lighting. We spent the next several minutes listening to the oddly quiet "Thump" of frosty-sized balls of snow falling off the trees in our back yard, and then I drifted off to sleep while congratulation myself for being energy-efficient and having quilts and covers that would keep me comfortable. I woke with my wife shaking my shoulder and pushing the alarm clock in my face and demanding that I turn it off. I did so. There was a little bit of moonlight, and a little bit of pre-dawn light, and we could just make out a sea of white, adorned with patches of dark that made me think some giant had dropped a jar of toothpicks: the trees that surround my yard had given in to the snow by saying goodbye to pieces of their branches and trunks, some as much as seven inches in diameter. There wasn't any heat, of course: very few American homes have furnaces that don't depend on electricity, no matter what fuel they burn, and mine is no exception. The snowfall had been about five inches. My wife's car was in need of cleaning, and the driveway in need of clearing, and I resigned myself to another visit in the winter wonderland. Five inches isn't much by New England standards, but it was the heaviest, wettest snow that I've ever shoveled. Even at five-something am, it was already slushy, before the sun had even come up, and I knew that if I left it, I'd have a skating rink instead of a driveway. I don't own a snowblower, and the "guy who handles mine" that my neighbor had recommended for plowing had never called me back, so I got out the shovel and went at it, just my fall jacket, and no gloves because I couldn't see where they'd gone in the dark. My wife was off to work at six am, and my driveway and stairs and front walk were cleared by seven. By then, with daylight come, it was obvious that there had been a major storm. I had lost several sections of the Oak trees in my front yard, and there were limbs torn from the Maples in the rear, a couple of them bending the fence railing that surrounds the pool. I shrugged my shoulder, and went to wheel out the generator. It was hidden behind a roll of tar paper and a hammock that someone had just tossed into the shed, behind a ladder that won't fit anywhere else, and next to sever cans of naphtha (a.k.a. "Coleman Fuel") that I had placed in my shed on general principles so that I wouldn't have to worry about fires in my basement. The shed also contains several bottles of gasoline stabilizer, some motor oil, a pint of two-stroke oil for the trimmer and leaf blower and chain saw, and a can of carburetor cleaner that comes in handy when trying to turn over the lawnmower on damp days. Everything needed to keep small gasoline-powered engines in operation. Except gasoline. I had a blue plastic jug filled with kerosene, and about a half-gallon of gas/oil mix that I had used for my leaf blower the week before, but nothing else. The five gallon gas can was bone-dry. I had used it up on the last lawn mowing of the season, and I stood there with my socks getting wet, and remember how I had thought that was a perfect end to the summer, running out of gas at exactly the right moment. My usual gas station was as dark as the rest of the town, a fact I discovered after nearly running into not one, but two separate trees that were lying across the roads in mute testimony to the irreducibility of water and the insistent nature of gravity. From the center of town, it was a game of finding somewhere with both passable streets and operating gas stations; I got back home with my prize around eight-thirty. Now, there are two really important things about connecting generators to your house's wiring: first, you have to cut off the connection to the electric pole, so that you don't electrocute any of the linemen, and second, you have to connect your generator so that it can deliver the power that the pole will not. I had met the first requirement by picking a "transer" switch out of a dumpster next to a construction site during the summer. It is a giant box at least half as big as my own electric panel, and I had mounted it on the same backboard and connected it in series with my utility feed. The second requirement, which involves having a properly connected plug into which the end of the extension cord from the generator would fit, was sitting in a bag of parts next to the Cutler-Hammer cabinet: a "next week" project that had been moving to the bottom of the "Honeydo" list as more pressing matter were added by an unseen hand. In a moment of inspiration, I retrieved the electric cord that my wife had cut through with the shrub trimmer, and opened the panel and stripped the wires and had a 120 volt feed into one of the "generator" connections all ready to go after only three-quarters of an hour juggling the flashlight and the razor knife and the screwdriver. There was, of course, only one cord available. I chose the "left" phase, and connected it to the generator, and added stabilizer to the gasoline, and checked the oil, and fired it up. Now, here's something important to think about: when you size a generator for use during a power failure, it's a good idea to pick one that can power a representative sampling of lights, and your refrigerator, and your furnace, and, if possible, a microwave oven. I had sized my generator by buying it at a yard sale, from a man who had one that was used for small electric tools at job sites before battery-operated hand tools were common. My generator is sized so that it can power the furnace, or the refrigerator, but not at the same time. With 2,500 peak watts and 2,000 continuous watts available, I had known from the start that I would need to make compromises to keep it operating properly, and so I had planned a generator connection box with two separate plugs, one for each side of the electrical box, so that I could plug the extension cord into whichever phase was most in need. As I said, that part of the plan was still in the bag of parts, and the cord I had on hand was now hard-wired to one side of the electrical service. It turned out to be the side with the refrigerator, and also the side with the kitchen lights, but not the bathroom, not the stairwell, and not the overheads that light the spot where I had placed the generator. I decided to see if I could reach the internet using my laptop computer: I was curious how widespread the outage was, but I didn't want to temp fate by turning on the TV, which was, in any case, not connected to the "live" side of my house wiring. My laptop connects to my home LAN via a wireless gateway, and I knew that the UPS I had purchased for my wife's desktop PC would run the gateway without trouble, since it's only a small twelve-volt transformer that's needed. Unfortunately, the UPS was dead, having wound itself down during the night, even though my wife's PC has a special connection to the UPS which forces it into hibernation when the power goes out. The UPS, apparently, was smart enough to tell the PC to go to sleep, but not smart enough to do so itself. No problem, I thought; I'll just hit the "on" button after I unplug my wife's PC, and run the WiFi gateway from the generator. Here's something you need to know about uninterruptible power supplies: they are incredibly finicky about the frequency of the power source that charges their batteries, and even though there is power coming in from a generator, they will only come on for a second or two until the generator surges a little or slows a little, and then the UPS will, if it has any battery capacity, switch to backup mode. That was, as my old dad used to say, not going to work with that sort of operator at the controls, so I shut it down and moved the gateway's power transformer to the "surge protect" outlets that aren't part of the battery backup. The "surge protect" outlets on that UPS are, however, part of the wiring for the on/off switch, and the UPS, which was shutting itself off every few seconds during the minute or so that it would stay on at all, wasn't willing to power even the outlets that weren't connected to the "uninterruptible" portion of its circuitry. The outlet into which the UPS is plugged is recessed into the wall, with a child-safe ring around it that I haven't needed in years, but which effectively prevents any "wall wart" transformer from fitting. Plan B: I would move the Ethernet cord that was plugged into the gateway "Internet" port directly to the laptop, obviating the need for a wireless connection. To do so, I got down on hands and knees, and crawled under my wife's desk to get at the gateway. The desk collapsed on top of me. Well, not exactly "collapsed": more like "came apart in slow motion as I watched the seams part where the pressed board was old and feeble". The desk wound up on top of my wife's PC, with the side panel tilted over at a crazy angle and the back bracing digging into my hand, stuck in the carpet inches from the Ethernet cord I had been reaching for. I heaved myself up, and the desk with me, and grabbed the gateway and used it as a wedge to support the desktop on top of the PC so that I could beat a hasty retreat while teaching the teenager next door some brand new words he did not know before. I then proceeded to remove the computer monitor and the printer and the books and the glassware, so that nothing else was showering off the structure every time I looked at it, and to make temporary repairs to the side panel, and to retrieve the Ethernet cord which I had so innocently thought was within my reach a few minutes prior. My laptop informed me that no internet connection was available. I grabbed the flashlight and went to investigate the DSL modem, which is located in my cellar, next to the telephone company demarcation point. The DSL modem was plugged into another UPS, which is the one that powers my server. I had run a web site for my son's Boy Scout Troop a few years back, and the UPS was still there even though the server is only turned on for backups these days. So, another UPS, feeding another gateway and the DSL modem. Which was, of course, as dead as the first one. No problem, though, the cellar outlets have no child-safe rings on them, so I simply moved the ADSL modem's transformer to the wall outlet. Which was, in short order, ascertained to be on the side of my panel which was not connected to the generator. I decided to let my refrigerator continue to cool, and to enjoy a meal at my favorite restaurant, a place that serves marvelous french toast and very good coffee. Except, since it had no power, it was closed. There was a scribbled sign on the door, with a "try back later" message. I got back in my car and made my way to a place two towns over that, according to the two-meter repeater, still had power. It took a thirty-two minute wait before I was seated: so many other suburbanites had found themselves in the same boat as I that the line was, literally, "out the door". I occupied my self with a notebook, drawing sketches of my electrical system and making notes of how I could most efficiently switch the generator between the furnace and the fridge. After a wonderful breakfast, I went back home, and found the generator silent: it was out of gas. I refilled the tank, moved the wire at the end of the extension cord from the "left" to the "right" side of the power bus, and fired it up again. The DSL modem came to life, as did the furnace, but my laptop didn't have the "PPPOE" software required to connect directly to the Internet and there was no spare outlet to plug in the wall-wart for the router which always handled that in the past, so I gave up and decided I would do without the net for a while. Then, suddenly tired after the shoveling and the desk collapse and the French Toast, I went back to bed. I was woken up by my wife, who returned home from work with food that she had bought ready-made at the grocery store. She told me that the first two stores she went to were all sold out of prepared foods, but she had been able to get a pre-cooked chicken and some cole slaw at a third. We ate dinner, basking in the warmth our radiators were giving off after I filled the generator up with gas again. With my belly full, I noticed that the sun was going down, and so, thinking to save wear and tear on the generator, I took down a brass lamp that hangs in our family room, a model which is advertised to work on any liquid fuel, all brass, which we keep on a ceiling hook as a conversation piece and just-in-case light. I knew that it had Naphtha in it: I had gone through the directions page-by-page when I bought it last year, and I had lit it up with no trouble. I remembered reading something about the lighting procedure being different for different fuels, but the instruction manual is on a CD-Rom that came with it, and I couldn't remember where that was. I figured that it would be about the same as a Coleman mantle lantern, and I pumped up the fuel pressure while I thought of how nice the brass looked in the light from my dad's old Bernz-o-matic lantern, which runs on propane fuel. The brass lantern lit right up: up about one foot above the top of the of the glass, and then all over the inside of the glass, and, within two or three seconds, all over the table top where the fuel had leaked out. I did keep my wits about me, but just barely: I upended a trash can and used it to cover the whole mess, and got a satisfying "swoof" of the fire going out, at the same time that I realized I had used a plastic trash can and that its sides were suddenly rather warm in my hands. I let the pressure out of the lantern's fuel compartment, and wiped up the remaining fuel, and emptied the tank back into the Naphtha can, and hanged it back up where it had been before. I went down to the cellar and retrieved the kerosene lamps I've had for years, and cleaned the globes and added the kerosene and set them out for use: not nearly as bright as a mantle lantern, but fine for finding your way around the house. I found a three-way converter cord, and plugged in the router down in the cellar, next to the ADSL modem, and got on the net long enough to tell my alternate system administrator to take over my duties, and long enough to find out that the power outage was much bigger than I had expected. The computer also told me that the forecast was for below-freezing temperatures that night, so I used the lanterns to find my way out to the outside spigots, and (with a lot of stumbling and tripping) to disconnect and drain the garden hoses that were coiled up next to them. I turned off the water lines so that the spigots wouldn't have any water in them, and then retreated back inside. We had flashlights for when we needed them, and kerosene lamps going in the bathroom and the kitchen, and a warm home. I filled the generator up yet again, and we called it a night. Monday was pretty much the same: the generator would run for about 80 minutes before it needed more gas, and I was even able to run the coffee-maker, so that I could think clearly enough to realize that I could put a jumper across the two power poles on the "generator" side of my transfer switch, and use the circuit breakers in the electric panel to turn the refrigerator or the furnace on. As a side benefit of having the refrigerator on only some of the time, I found that the ice cream was much easier to scoop, and treated myself to frequent retesting of the effect. I ran the refrigerator more often, though, concerned that I might have been too optimistic about its insulation and the thermal inertia of the food in the freezer. As I said, we had power back by early Tuesday morning. I coiled up the extension cord next to the transfer switch, threw the lever to the other side, and rejoiced in the sound of my furnace and the cellar lights and the UPS and the refrigerator all coming on at once. They say an ounce of experience is worth a pound of theory, so I'm putting this out there, unvarnished, to illustrate some fundamental principles of disaster preparedness which I will be following in the future. 1. Any fool knows you need extra matches around in the winter. 2. Don't put off electrical work that you're going to be wishing you had done earlier if the power goes out. 3. Any widespread outage is going to tax _ALL_ the resources of your community: gas stations, restaurants, and road-clearing. Unless you have your own water, food, fuel, and the capabilities to use them efficiently, your just a guy with some extra stuff lying around. 4. It's no good to buy a small generator and think that it prepares you for the winter. Without a proper setup and regular tests, you wind up with a marginally useful device that needs too much attention and provides sub-standard capabilities. FWIW. YMMV, and I hope it does. 73, Bill, W1AC -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly) |
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Scotty, I need more power
On 11/4/2011 5:33 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
It started on Saturday night, with a finger-poke and my wife saying "Bill, the power is out". [ snip ] 73, Bill, W1AC Damn it Bill, you owe me a keyboard. Been there, done that, had all the same sorts of fun and games in the process. At least YOU were UNDER the desk when it collapsed. I was on top of it. Jeff-1.0 wa6fwi -- "Everything from Crackers to Coffins" |
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On 11/4/2011 10:07 AM, Jeffrey Angus wrote:
On 11/4/2011 5:33 AM, Bill Horne wrote: It started on Saturday night, with a finger-poke and my wife saying "Bill, the power is out". Damn it Bill, you owe me a keyboard. Trust me: my wife poking my shoulder at ten pm is no laughing matter. _SHE_ wanted _ME_ to stumble down to the basement and play blind man's bluff until I came across the flashlight I had left there. The nerve of that woman! My bedroom is still too cold: must be something wrong with the heat. Been there, done that, had all the same sorts of fun and games in the process. At least YOU were UNDER the desk when it collapsed. I was on top of it. I not sure that having my face shoved up against the sharp edges on the back of my wife's computer was any less memorable, but then again, I was able to calm myself for at least 250 milliseconds by recalling that the machine was off. There seems to be a conspiracy among all the electronic devices in my home: the more important they are in an emergency, the farther back into the corner they will have receded. They insulate themselves with dust balls, conceal themselves in darkness, protect their cords with child-save latches that only a child could figure out, and roll over so that their switches, controls, and indicators are facing the wrong direction. They should call it "Disaster Avoidance", not "Disaster Preparedness": the trick is to avoid the other disasters that occurred when I tried to deal with the original. 73, Bill W1AC -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly) |
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Scotty, I need more power
In article , Bill Horne wrote: snipped fopr brevity It started on Saturday night, with a finger-poke and my wife saying "Bill, the power is out". It ended at about three am today, when I noticed that the streetlight was on and I went and threw the transfer switch back to commercial power. I leaned a lot during the power failure, and I invite comments and discussion to help other hams who are preparing for the coming winter and for public service events. 1. Any fool knows you need extra matches around in the winter. 2. Don't put off electrical work that you're going to be wishing you had done earlier if the power goes out. 3. Any widespread outage is going to tax _ALL_ the resources of your community: gas stations, restaurants, and road-clearing. Unless you have your own water, food, fuel, and the capabilities to use them efficiently, your just a guy with some extra stuff lying around. 4. It's no good to buy a small generator and think that it prepares you for the winter. Without a proper setup and regular tests, you wind up with a marginally useful device that needs too much attention and provides sub-standard capabilities. FWIW. YMMV, and I hope it does. 73, Bill, W1AC Read your stuff, and it is a GREAT Story, of the Unprepared, trying to fix things..... I would suggest that you get some good Surivial tips over on www.survivalmonkey.com, and some Generator Installation information, over at www.smokstak.com..... there are lots of folks over there that have "Been there, Done that" and have fixes for all those issues, from practical Experience.ome even in your area. Just Say'en.... YMMV..... Bruce in alaska AL7AQ -- Bruce in Alaska add path before the @ for email |
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On 11/4/2011 6:33 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
4. It's no good to buy a small generator and think that it prepares you for the winter. Without a proper setup and regular tests, you wind up with a marginally useful device that needs too much attention and provides sub-standard capabilities. I agree... To make sure a generator will run when you need it to run you need to run it at least once a month under 1/2 load for at least 30 minutes, You need a good supply of STABLIZED gas and small engines often do not like alcohol in the gas so just siphoning the car.. not a good idea. Plus.. To do it right you should have a proper GENERATOR TRANSFER panel/switch(es) put in the house. How I did it: Onan Emerald Gold 5.5KW generator (120 volt only) in the motorhome. Holds 70 gallons, burns just over 1 an hour at FULL load. 30 amp Twist lock in the MH basement (along with a pair of TT-30 Pigtails) fed by dedicated 30 amp breakers in the distribution box Transfer switches in basement (not all the lights, more on that in a bit) and an "inlet" on the back of the house. Plug in the cord, crank her up (install Gen-Turi first) and start flipping switches. Now, that not all lights. I left a couple of lights that I do not often use on the main box and did not route the circuit through the transfer switches. That way when power fails I turn those lights ON. When they actually come on... I know it's time to shut down Mr. onan. -- Nothing adds Excitement like something that is none of your business. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4597 - Release Date: 11/04/11 |
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On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 06:33 -0400, Bill Horne wrote:
It started on Saturday night, with a finger-poke and my wife saying "Bill, the power is out". It ended at about three am today, when I noticed that the streetlight was on and I went and threw the transfer switch back to commercial power. I leaned a lot during the power failure, and I invite comments and discussion to help other hams who are preparing for the coming winter and for public service events. [snip] They say an ounce of experience is worth a pound of theory, so I'm putting this out there, unvarnished, to illustrate some fundamental principles of disaster preparedness which I will be following in the future. Here's an update on what I've done since the storm, and also a request for help. I'll get to the "help" part in a moment. 1. Any fool knows you need extra matches around in the winter. I now have a book of matches next to every candle in the house. I also have a well-maintained flashlight in the drawer next to my bed. 2. Don't put off electrical work that you're going to be wishing you had done earlier if the power goes out. I've decided that the arrangement I had just wasn't workable: there's no reason to switch "everything" over to a generator that will only power a couple of things. So, I'm rewiring my home to have a generator feed available to only a few devices: A. Furnace B. Refrigerator C. Seven low-wattage compact-flurescent lamps, one in each room we usually use. D. The Internet connection: an ADSL Modem and the routers. With this arrangement, I anticipate that my current generator can support both the refrigerator and the furnace, as well as a few lights. 3. Any widespread outage is going to tax _ALL_ the resources of your community: gas stations, restaurants, and road-clearing. Unless you have your own water, food, fuel, and the capabilities to use them efficiently, your just a guy with some extra stuff lying around. I've moved my Coleman camping stove, some Coleman lanterns, and my kerosene lanterns underneath the stairs to my cellar, in a space that wasn't being used. The fuel for them is now in a small storage box on my back porch, so that I can get to it even if the path to my shed is blocked by snow. I'm keeping a five-gallon can of stabilized gas on hand, and I'm going to swap it into my car once a month and refill it. We have plenty of canned food, some dry food such as pasta, and some packets of things like cocoa, plus a couple of gallons of "spring" water just for good measure. Without power or the chance to get to a store, we'd still be well fed for about a week. 4. It's no good to buy a small generator and think that it prepares you for the winter. Without a proper setup and regular tests, you wind up with a marginally useful device that needs too much attention and provides sub-standard capabilities. As much as I hate to eat my words, I'm going to have to "make do" with the generator I have for a while. I can't complain too much, since I bought it for a great price and I knew that it wasn't a "whole house" machine at the start. My XYL has shown very little interest in upgrading to a larger model, so I've painted myself into a corner by demonstrating that the 2KW unit can work, even if only barely. I'll have to wait awhile before I can upgrade, and I'm gathering info in the meantime. However, there are larger issues, and here's where I'd appreciate help from the other readers. This applies to field day, to EmCom in general, and (of course) to being prepared for storms at home, and so I'm going to ask some questions about preparedness in the hopes that all can benefit. 1. What information source(s) are there for generator ratings, fuel consumption, durability, workmanship, and cost-per-watt? This may seem like the most obvious stuff, and it should be available anywhere, but the retailers' web sites don't have it, and I don't want to buy a set that isn't rated for "continuous duty". Are there any neutral parties who will offer an opinion? Are the specifications of units available to the government available to civilians? 2. How much do the various fuels cost to use, in real dollars? I've heard several people advise me to get a generator that runs on natural gas, but I've also seen claims that natural gas is a lot more expensive to use than gasoline or diesel fuel. Counting factors such as "derating", is natural gas competitive with diesel or gasoline? 3. What would it cost to fit a larger fuel tank? The 2KW Coleman unit I have only runs about 80 minutes before it needs refueling, and that's just too little time to allow for work and sleep. I'd like to have at least eight hours between refuelings. 4. What about noise? I need some information about ways that I can reduce the noise from my 2KW unit enough that I can run it at the same time I'm trying to sleep. 5. Last, the subject of keeping food on hand when the roads are blocked. How do I, as an individual, judge the companies that sell "emergency" food? I don't want to seem cynical, but all I could find is word-of-mouth opinions about the various firms that are in the business, and I'd like to have some more objective information available before I spend hundreds of dollars for freeze-dried or other long-term-storage food supplies. Thanks for your help. Bill, W1AC -- (Filter QRM to write to me directly) |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:57:22 EST, Bill Horne
wrote: I'd like to have some more objective information available before I spend hundreds of dollars for freeze-dried or other long-term-storage food supplies. Times of stress are not a good time to eat strange new food. Stock up on what you usually eat. Whenever you see a particularly good buy on something, buy as much of it as you think you'll use before it spoils. Restock a staple when you open the last package, not when you empty the last package. Keep various items at various stages of restocking. (It's all right to run clear out of chicken when there's plenty of fish and pork.) The only emergency foods in my house are two cans of evaporated milk -- which reminds me that it's time to take them to Our Father's House and buy two more. (I normally have an emergency before their six months is up.) -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net |
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On 11/10/2011 1:57 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
1. What information source(s) are there for generator Avoid just about everything you see in places like Home Depot or Harbor Freight. What you want is a generator that is quiet, dependable and runs for more that an hour. Pricey, but I bought a Honda EXS4500 back in 1989. It's in a full soundproofed cabinet so it doesn't sound like a moto- cross race in your back yard. It runs for about 4 hours on a tank of gas and has required no maintenance expect checking the oil and replacing the battery a couple of times. 2. How much do the various fuels cost to use, in real dollars? The "cost" of natural gas isn't the BTU cost, it's whether or not it will be available when the power outage is widespread. Both propane, gasoline and diesel require electrical service to run the pumps. And tanks that need to be refilled. 3. What would it cost to fit a larger fuel tank? Marine fuel tanks. Self contained with all the proper safety bits and pieces. MUCH better than a Jerry Can with a hose stuck in it. 4. What about noise? The biggest problem is the exhaust. If you can get a larger muffler in addition to the one that it comes with, that's a step in the right direction. The next problem is mechanical noise. Most open frame generators sound like a blender full of rocks. Learn masonry. Build a little house for your generator with additional partitions (separate) for fuel and other supplies. You can camouflage it to look like a back yard BBQ ;-) 5. Last, the subject of keeping food on hand when the roads are blocked. First and foremost is fresh water. Got to keep plenty of that on hand. Also, you should consider a plastic 55 gal drum full of "non-drinking" water for such niceties as flushing toilets. Military MRE's are rated for 10 year storage. This means they're good for probably 20 or so. Freeze dried, back filled with dry nitrogen then vacuum packed. On the other hand, just stock up on canned goods. Also check the typical expiration date on some "pre-cooked" meals in sealed bags (Not frozen food). I used to buy some excellent complete dinners in a bag from a Canadian source at REI Co-Op for camping. Not cheap, but an absolute no brainer to prepare. Jeff-1.0 wa6fwi -- "Everything from Crackers to Coffins" |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:12:31 EST, Jeffrey Angus
wrote: Both propane, gasoline and diesel require electrical service to run the pumps. And tanks that need to be refilled. And good luck getting a permit for any decent-sized tank for those fuels in any residential area. I'm talking about 96-hour capacity, not a five-gallon Jerry can. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net |
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Scotty, I need more power
On 11/11/2011 15:04, Phil Kane wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:12:31 EST, Jeffrey wrote: Both propane, gasoline and diesel require electrical service to run the pumps. And tanks that need to be refilled. And good luck getting a permit for any decent-sized tank for those fuels in any residential area. I'm talking about 96-hour capacity, not a five-gallon Jerry can. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net Phil Perhaps there is that much difficulty getting such permits were you are but it is not uncommon in Maryland for people to have five hundred gallon propane tanks when they heat with the stuff. Underground fuel oil tanks are not uncommon either, although new ones are expensive to install. Above ground concrete encased tanks are the storage of choice for commercial sites now because less monitoring for leakage is required. Those are also fairly pricey though. What you cannot get a permit for is above ground storage in shipping containers such as five gallon plastic cans or fifty five gallon drums. If you need to store fuel in the same containers that will be used to dispense and transport them then the containers must be stored in a flammable liquids cabinet. Those are also quite pricey. So the cheapest one to store lawfully would appear to be propane. My firehouse heated the apparatus bay with propane and used it to fuel an eighty kilowatt generator/ A five day outage used two thirds of the propane tanks one thousand gallon capacity. If that duel fueled unit had had a natural gas connection we would have had a smaller tank for the propane which would have been used only as a backup fuel supply. -- Tom Horne |
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