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Or maybe she's a figment of his imagination and Robesin would have to
roll out her old RRAP account when he's much too busy creating new
accounts for our geophysicist visitors.


"Geophysicists?" :-)


Why sure, Leonard. Your pal, Col. Mark Morgan has now confessed to
being a geophysicist. From some of his message headers, he is missing
his id.

Must have missed those. shrug Hawaii is the new
rock-and-roll state. Newington, CT, will ignore it as it
does all other things west of the Mississippi River...


There aren't many of your posts in which you don't tell some outright
falsehood. Both CNN and Fox News carried accounts of cellular phone
service being disrupted. I'll bet some of those radio hams end up
handling communication in the aftermath of the earthquake. Texas is
west of the Mississippi. Do you think hams will be a part of the action
in the wake of the flooding there?

For years he has tried to avoid posting anything
anywhere to document his alleged 18-year active USMC
career. He won't even make it available as private
e-mail.


I served in the military only four years, Len. I've posted nothing here
in documenting my active duty service. I've not, nor would I ever make
any such documentation available to you in an e-mail. Look what kind of
things you've written about my active duty military service. Go figure!

That sort of SELECTIVE highlighting with the sin of
omission or related facts is what the ARRL does most of
the time. Naturally, those who attended the "parochial
school" of the Church of St. Hiram will pick up on the
technique.


You haven't attended catechism studies and haven't been confirmed. You
don't pledge, you don't tithe. You may not partake. You're still an
unbaptized heathen in the world of amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

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From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm

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From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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There aren't many of your posts in which you don't tell some outright
falsehood.


"Outright falsehoods?" Illuminate the group with your
godly light and tell me that OPINIONS are "factual." :-)

Both CNN and Fox News carried accounts of cellular phone
service being disrupted. I'll bet some of those radio hams end up
handling communication in the aftermath of the earthquake.


Have CNN or Fox News carried acounts of hams "up handling
communication" in the aftermath of the [Hawaii] earthquake?
How about ABC, CBS, or NBC? Any major newspapers?

The Hawaii 6.7-Richter earthquake is OVER, senior. No
loss of life. Property damage, some. Utility damage,
some. The Governor of Hawaii has been quoted (several
times) as saying "Hawaii is open for business!" :-)

Is amateur radio about business? Sorry, it can't be.
FCC defines USA amateur radio as being done WITHOUT
pecuniary interest. No money for services rendered.
That doesn't sound like any "business" in the normal sense.

Texas is west of the Mississippi.


Fantastic bit of TRIVIA, mister atlas. :-)

Or do we call you Rand or McNally? :-)


I served in the military only four years, Len.


That's four MORE years than some civilian in PA served. :-)


I've posted nothing here
in documenting my active duty service.


Not a word? Oh, THAT is a complete FALSEHOOD! :-)


I've not, nor would I ever make
any such documentation available to you in an e-mail.


How about making it available to law enforcement? :-)


Look what kind of
things you've written about my active duty military service.


Tsk, I've failed to acknowledge your glorious heroism
in "a country at war?" Oh, my. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk...

You need some medal or ribbon to highlight your "active
duty military service?" BUY some. They are easy to
purchase. Somebody with the license call K4YZ has done
that, hasn't he? :-)

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that. Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available. I've got a whole
20-page photo essay posted on what I did.


You haven't attended catechism studies and haven't been confirmed. You
don't pledge, you don't tithe. You may not partake. You're still an
unbaptized heathen in the world of amateur radio.


Sorry, but I Pledge from time to time. Good furniture
polish and dusting treatment.

I don't tithe amateur radio. It is NOT a religion.
It isn't a recognized religion. Except maybe in a
small town in Connecticutt? :-)

Tsk, tsk, I've been a hobbyist in radio and electronics
for 59 years, still doing that. I've been a professional
(as in accepting compensation for work performed) for 54
years, still doing that (but not now in regular office
hours).

I partake all I want, anytime I want. Fascinating thing
this radio-electronics thing. Made it my career choice.

I have a COMMERCIAL radio operator license, even had a
BUSINESS radio license. I got "baptised" (using your
ugly and insulting term) back in 1953 doing high-power
long-distance HF transmitting. I've since transmitted
legally from the air (at the controls of an aircraft)
and from the sea (from a private boat on HF SSB). I've
worked a station ON the moon...something amateurs have
NEVER done. :-)

Well, yes, I would imagine YOU think of ham radio as
some kind of "religion" where mantra is everything but
the technology is too ethereal for you to understand.
Take heart, your epiphany may come, even without anyone
kicking your phany.

As always to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.



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From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
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From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm


There aren't many of your posts in which you don't tell some outright
falsehood.


"Outright falsehoods?"


Yup. Mistakes, errors, things that aren't true.

Illuminate the group with your
godly light and tell me that OPINIONS are "factual." :-)


Opinions are not sacred, Len. Not even yours. The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.

For example, you may be of the opinion that the moon is made of green
cheese, or that it is 500 miles from Vladivostok to Tokyo. Both are
falsehoods.

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.


Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?

I've got a whole
20-page photo essay posted on what I did.


Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?

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From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

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From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
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From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm



Opinions are not sacred, Len.


Yes they are, Jimmie. Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever. All those against it
tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)

Not even yours. The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.


Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!

So, I state an OPINION that you don't like and it is a
"falsehood." But, because it IS an opinion, PREVENTS it
from being a "falsehood." :-)


Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.


WTF are you babbling about?

Did you put on the Mother Superior habit already, knuckle-
spank ruler at the ready to correct "improper grammar?"


Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.


Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.


PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?


Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.
Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie. You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance. You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.


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From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

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From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
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From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm



BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.


MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really? I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.


Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


....only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?
Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.

Dave K8MN


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From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm



BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.


MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?


Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.


It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.


Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.


Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.


Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.


No bunting. By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up. Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?


Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.

Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.

Dave K8MN


It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?

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wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.
So? Who are *you* to demand proof?
A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.

MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?


Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.


It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.


I never knew that Len was a professional radio. I'll make a note of it.

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.


Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?


I'd say that a good time would be right after Len bares his soul and
admits that he engaged in being an imposter in regard to what it is like
to go through an artillery barrage. I'm guessing that won't happen.

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.


Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.


Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?


I'd say it would.

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.


No bunting.


I see bunting. Len is wrapped in it.

By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up.


I didn't like queues when I was in the military. I sure don't have to
queue for anything now.

Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.


That's a pretty bold supposition on your part. What indicates that
someone "wasn't up to it"?

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?


Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.


I've seen no detailed description on Steve's part. Len's description
was quite detailed, right down to sphincter.

Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.


It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?


Would I?

Dave K8MN

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From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm


Opinions are not sacred, Len.


Tell it to Robesin. If you hold the wrong opinion, you are a" LIAR!"

Yes they are, Jimmie. Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever. All those against it
tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)


LIAR!

Not even yours. The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.


And so it starts...

Actually, it started long, long ago in a DX location far, far away...

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!

So, I state an OPINION that you don't like and it is a
"falsehood." But, because it IS an opinion, PREVENTS it
from being a "falsehood." :-)


Exactly! Any you're a LIAR so don't forget it.

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.


WTF are you babbling about?


So now you're using CW abbreviations...

Did you put on the Mother Superior habit already, knuckle-
spank ruler at the ready to correct "improper grammar?"


I saw Dave make a typo last weekend, but I didn't draw attention to it.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.


Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.


PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


When someone draws attention to themselves with wild claims, it usually
follows that someone else will ask for documentation.

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


Stolen Valor. It gives anyone the right to ask for documentation when
preposterous claims have been made. Robesin

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


That should be a given, but apparently it isn't.

Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?


Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.
Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie. You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance. You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.


Other ways... other ways...

As ever to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.



Jim want's to think that his other ways are a substitute for military
service, kind of like Clinton's "AmericCorps..." Jim was just ahead
of his time in avoiding military service.

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wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm


Opinions are not sacred, Len.


Tell it to Robesin. If you hold the wrong opinion, you are a" LIAR!"

and a child molestor sheep raping pedophile

Yes they are, Jimmie. Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever. All those against it
tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)


LIAR!

Not even yours. The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.


And so it starts...

Actually, it started long, long ago in a DX location far, far away...

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!

So, I state an OPINION that you don't like and it is a
"falsehood." But, because it IS an opinion, PREVENTS it
from being a "falsehood." :-)


Exactly! Any you're a LIAR so don't forget it.

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.


WTF are you babbling about?


So now you're using CW abbreviations...

Did you put on the Mother Superior habit already, knuckle-
spank ruler at the ready to correct "improper grammar?"


I saw Dave make a typo last weekend, but I didn't draw attention to it.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.

Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.


PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


When someone draws attention to themselves with wild claims, it usually
follows that someone else will ask for documentation.


and when he fails to produce

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.

So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


Stolen Valor. It gives anyone the right to ask for documentation when
preposterous claims have been made. Robesin


and another military Veteran here, one that posted proof that meets
steve stanard but was rejuected by steve

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


That should be a given, but apparently it isn't.


indeed

Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?


Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.
Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie. You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance. You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.


Other ways... other ways...

As ever to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.



Jim want's to think that his other ways are a substitute for military
service, kind of like Clinton's "AmericCorps..." Jim was just ahead
of his time in avoiding military service.

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[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]


Len:

Who are "Jimmie" and "Davie"? There is someone who posts here as
"Jimmie D" - do you mean him?

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
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From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm


Opinions are not sacred, Len.


Yes they are, Jimmie.


Who is "Jimmie", Len?

The fact remains that opinions are not sacred. I know that you want
*your* opinions treated as absolutely sacrosanct, and that anyone who
challenges your statements has broken a taboo (to you, anyway).

Post your opinions here and they will be challenged, Len. That's the
way it works.

Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever.


What are "amateur extra morsemen", Len?

Some people think a Morse Code test is a good idea. Others do not.
Neither opinion is sacred.

All those against it tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)


That's a falsehood, Len.

Not even yours.


I know that you want *your* opinions treated as absolutely sacrosanct,
and that anyone who challenges your statements has broken a taboo (to
you, anyway). But they are not sacred.

The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.


Typo alert: The above should read:

The mere fact that someone holds an opinion does *not* prevent it from
being a falsehood.

IOW, an opinion can be false. You can hold the opinion that the moon of
made of green cheese, but in fact it is not, and that opinion is false.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!


(nonsensical diatribe over a typo snipped).

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.


WTF are you babbling about?


You state your opinions as if they are unquestionable facts. But they
are just opinions, and are often unsupported by facts.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.


Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.


PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


That's another falsehood, Len.

You call K4YZ an imposter because he has not provided you with the
proof you seek and dares to disagree with you. It's pretty clear that
if he agreed with you on some things, you would tout him as a hero.

You've been asked to provide more details about your experience with a
particular artillery barrage you described. But you have not done so.
Does that make you an imposter, Len?
Or just someone who chooses not to provide proof - same as K4YZ?

Yet Hans Brakob


K0HB

has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.


So? Who are *you* to demand proof?


A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.


Who is "Jimmie", Len? How do you know for sure whether this "Jimmie"
person was in the military or not?

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.


How do you know for sure who is and is not a veteran? Is Mark Morgan a
veteran? Or is he an imposter? (Please note that I am not calling
anyone an imposter - I'm just asking how Len can be so sure).

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.


Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?


Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.


Are you still stuck with dialup, Len?

Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.


I don't have trouble with technological words, Len.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie.


Who is this "Jimmie" person, Len? Why do you keep addressing him/her?

You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance.


How do you know for sure?

You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.


Why not?

You seem to be saying that if a person has not been in the military,
they cannot judge anything about the military. Yet many of our
country's lawmakers do just that.

You have never been a radio amateur, yet you pronounce all sorts of
judgements on amateur radio.

As ever to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.

Which phrase is that, Len? Don't you have the guts to spell it out?

btw, Len, you've made it easy to tell when you know you have lost the
argument.

Whenever you start wrapping yourself in the bunting of having served in
the military, rather than actually debating the issue at hand, it's a
sure and clear sign that you know you've lost the argument. Just a
variation of the behavior in your profile.



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