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October 30th 06, 02:15 AM
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What is the ARRL's thought on having good amateurs?
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October 30th 06, 02:55 AM
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What is the ARRL's thought on having good amateurs?
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ink.net... wrote: From: Dee Flint on Sun, Oct 29 2006 8:48 am wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message [snip] I started out in HF radio with the mission of keeping communications channels open and working 24/7. Not my thing to hop all over some small band and making transitory contact with some individual one will probably never "work" again. I put that on par with being a fan of "Wheel of Fortune." :-) In this weekend's CQ Worldwide DX Contest, serious ops likely contacted the same station on a number of bands. They likely worked most of those stations on a number of bands last year and the year before. Don't worry too much about it. You'd have to obtain an amateur radio license before you could participate. That's for sure Dave. I have worked WP2Z a total of 25 times in 5 years and I am only a casual contester. Dee, N8UZE |
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October 30th 06, 04:40 AM
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What is the ARRL's thought on having good amateurs?
Dee Flint wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ink.net... wrote: From: Dee Flint on Sun, Oct 29 2006 8:48 am wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message [snip] I started out in HF radio with the mission of keeping communications channels open and working 24/7. Not my thing to hop all over some small band and making transitory contact with some individual one will probably never "work" again. I put that on par with being a fan of "Wheel of Fortune." :-) In this weekend's CQ Worldwide DX Contest, serious ops likely contacted the same station on a number of bands. They likely worked most of those stations on a number of bands last year and the year before. Don't worry too much about it. You'd have to obtain an amateur radio license before you could participate. That's for sure Dave. I have worked WP2Z a total of 25 times in 5 years and I am only a casual contester. Dee, N8UZE After a while, Dee, you hit Dayton and other hamfests and you meet some of these contest ops. I've been working Mike Wetzel W9RE for thirty years or so in contests. I've known Tim K3LR since he was a teenager. He and WA3FET designed the Bencher Skyhawk tribander in recent years. Back in 1990 when I was 9L1US in Sierra Leone, I worked Don Karvonen K8MFO on ten bands within a 24 hour period (and not in a contest). Don and I were on Market Reef in 1986. Dave K8MN |
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October 30th 06, 05:10 AM
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What is the ARRL's thought on having good amateurs?
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: Dee Flint on Sun, Oct 29 2006 8:48 am wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message No I do not say that all those who learned the code are highly proficient. I am saying that setting someone up with CWGet for a contest is a recipe for failure and a very unenjoyable contest experience. When I first started cw contesting, I had to listen to the station many times through picking out their call letter by letter over a dozen exchanges before throwing in my call. I also sent PSE QRS 5 on many occasions to get the balance of the exchange. But it worked. If they choose to view as merely a hurdle to pass and never try it, that's sad but that's their problem. Never been a problem to me. Heck no, Leonard. You'd have to first obtain an amateur radio license in order to worry about amateur radio contesting. nope I can't see any personal enjoyment in "contesting," using kilodollars worth of equipment just to accumulate the most radio contacts in a short period of time. But, if that's your Thing, go for it. Some folks use hundreds of dollars worth of equipment. Some participate only to work states or countries or grid squares they've never contacted. Some like to give points to those operating seriously in a contesting event. Some just like to see if they can't beat the score of a local friend or to see if they can do better than they did the last year. I started out in HF radio with the mission of keeping communications channels open and working 24/7. Not my thing to hop all over some small band and making transitory contact with some individual one will probably never "work" again. I put that on par with being a fan of "Wheel of Fortune." :-) In this weekend's CQ Worldwide DX Contest, serious ops likely contacted the same station on a number of bands. They likely worked most of those stations on a number of bands last year and the year before. Don't worry too much about it. You'd have to obtain an amateur radio license before you could participate. nope The FCC has nothing on "contesting," doesn't require it of any licensee. Neither do the regs forbid it. Go figure! but since it is not a requirement it needs are a not a proper basis for making rules Then there are the majority of hams who have no-code licenses... While they have numbers, way too many of them are inactive or have low activity levels. You don't hear them so they don't exist?!? When I work VHF/UHF contests, I sometimes check the call signs of the people worked. Most are Extras, some are Generals, and I've only worked ONE Technician. And that's in a voice contest. Why is that? They have full band privileges and full power privileges yet they don't use them. Why? Same deal with the grid square hunters. And so on. Tsk. VHF-UHF is LOS stuff regularly, sometimes "DX" when there are atmospheric inversion layers for ducting or other weird effects. Weird effects? Most of the propagation modes are fairly predictable, Len. Line of sight varies with altitude above average terrain, with height of antennas above ground, with gain of antennas used, with power used and with feedline and preamps used. Enhanced propagation modes exist commonly. I can regularly contact 6m stations within a several hundred mile radius. At 2m and 70cm, I can work stations two hundred or so miles away. With enhanced propagation modes at 2m or 70cm, I've worked Iowa and Nebraska. I've contacted 67 countries on 6m in the past six years. They range from the Marshall Islands to Madagascar. Did it ever occur to you that OTHER people on ham bands are NOT really into 'contesting?" Maybe they LIKE to get to know the other party on a radio circuit? Being a contester does not preclude ragchewing or DXing or traffic handling. if you were reading youd understand that the point made is that the needs of CW Contester do (and should not) drive ARS licensing or maybe you would not be able to understand that point Now, if the FCC ever gets the 2004 "Omnibus" R&O published in the Federal Register, we will see if they bothered to update the old CCITT document to the current ITU document. :-) Yeah. "We" will see. Those of us with amateur radio licenses will operate under the reg changes. You may read them. mighty white of of you In crowded, congested ham bands it would seem mo' bettah to LEARN how to maintain, repair, calibrate their radios. The FCC has lots technical requirements on radios which licensees are REQUIRED to obey. Fix up your well equipped home workshop, Len. Get it all set up for maintenance, repair and calibration. That way, you can go right to it when and if you ever obtain an amateur radio license. Not to worry. The ready-built designer-manufacturers of today's ham radios have done all the ADVANCED work for you. No need to sweat actually LEARNING some beyond-basic knowledge. Just plug it in and go. You can read the operating manual as you go along. Why are *you* worried about it? he isn't you seem to be You keep stressing the NEED to do radiotelegraphy. I don't see it. That has long been evident. as has the fact the FCC and ITU don't see it either The rest of the world isn't stressing any of that "CW" need...they just gave up on morse code. That's incorrect, Leonard. The rest of the world didn't give up the use or the testing. Some countries gave up testing. In the meantime, if you'd like to become a radio amateur with HF access here in the U.S. of A., you'll need to brush up on morse. for while longer yet Computer programming is NOT for everyone. Some haven't got the aptitude for it. Neither is amateur radio, Len, for the same reason. but that reason has NOTHING to with Morse Dave K8MN |
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October 30th 06, 11:12 AM
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Dave Heil wrote: I've contacted 67 countries on 6m in the past six years. They range from the Marshall Islands to Madagascar. Dave K8MN And a whole slew of out-of-banders from France. |
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