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"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE |
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"Dee Flint" wrote:
So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. As is usually the case, Mark's stories are veiled in 1/2 truths designed to attempt to paint himself as the "victim" of some massive conspiracy at the hands of code-tested amateur radio operators. The lengths to which he'll go to concoct these stories is truly amazing sometimes, and perhaps what is even more amazing is other participants in this forum (Brian and Lennie) actually stick up for him, simply due to their like-minded hatred of all things morse code in the ARS. 73 kh6hz |
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE While all of this makes perfect sense to you and me, and is indeed the order of the testing hierarchy, methinks Mark will STILL somehow view himself to be the set-upon "victim". It may even further irritate Mark to learn that I am a VE, so thanks, Dee, for setting the record straight. |
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On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? |
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On Mar 9, 7:45 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote: So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. As is usually the case, Mark's stories are veiled in 1/2 truths designed to attempt to paint himself as the "victim" of some massive conspiracy at the hands of code-tested amateur radio operators. The lengths to which he'll go to concoct these stories is truly amazing sometimes, and perhaps what is even more amazing is other participants in this forum (Brian and Lennie) actually stick up for him, simply due to their like-minded hatred of all things morse code in the ARS. 73 kh6hz I just have a dislike for for you, Mike. Thanks for asking. |
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wrote: On Mar 7, 6:10?pm, John Smith I wrote: wrote: ? ?... ? LET THE TURKEYS EAT CROW LENNIE!!! ?BIG wide grin JS, "crow" is too good for them. Indeed. Perhaps Seven Hostile Actions Robesin could take a lesson from the book, "King Rat." Good grief, everyone is making out like that amateur license test is a *TEST*. It can be quite difficult for anyone without a background in electronics and trig. It isn't like a whole truckload of college exams I've taken. Correct, and it was all meaningless without the code exam... Hi! It was 120 questions, multiple-choice, done in three parts...on a Sunday afternoon in an old fire house now housing part of the Los Angeles Auxilliary Communications Service, managed by the LAFD. It was all of a mile and a half from my house, across from a food market (Ralphs - no apostrophe) where I've shopped for 43 years. Too bad it wasn't snowing or I would have taken off my shoes like them olde-tymers did. It is slightly downhill (by about 30 feet) to it, but it IS uphill coming back. The Old Tymers have stories about those who didn't make it back. "Bridge Over The River Kwai" kind of stuff.... It wouldn't be so bad if there weren't all these sunsabishes waiting in the bushes to say I'm a "newbie, tyro, beginner, etc., etc. in radio." Jay-suss. They can't get a grip, can they? There's one who has nothing to grip, constantly envying all others with accusations of "Putz." Nah...business will return shortly to the usual in here... like in a few minutes... 73, Len Tick, tick, tick, ah, I meant dit, dit, dit... |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She was validating those of KH6HZ. Read her post again. She was making a learned statement of fact. That KH6HZ did a little research and pointed out some of the issues with the numbers and classifications of Hams in Mark's immediate area could have been researched by anybody, even you. Steve merely voiced the findings and added to them. In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's that Mark wrongfully accused of being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test session. Dee has a great amount of credibility. Mark has none. Dee has never misled or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has. |
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"Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She was validating those of KH6HZ. I believe you have the attributions incorrect. Steve is the one who did the research and posted the information on the number of licensed hams in the area, not I. 73 KH6HZ |
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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She replied to Robesin. She was validating those of KH6HZ. She replied to Robesin. She if free to reply to Deigan if it were Deignan she wishe dto reply to. Read her post again. Yep. She was making a learned statement of fact. That KH6HZ did a little research and pointed out some of the issues with the numbers and classifications of Hams in Mark's immediate area could have been researched by anybody, even you. Why would I? Is there another mailing going out to Mark's ham neighbors? Steve merely voiced the findings and added to them. Robesin adds nothing to the discussion except sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. that Mark wrongfully accused of being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test session. So who was this VE? What did he/she tell you about the discussion he had with Mark? Dee has a great amount of credibility. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." Mark has none. Dee has never misled or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has. So has Robesin and Deignan. How many amateurs are in their "Hoods?" (Good luck on getting a valid address for Deignan.) |
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"KH6HZ" wrote in message ... "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She was validating those of KH6HZ. I believe you have the attributions incorrect. Steve is the one who did the research and posted the information on the number of licensed hams in the area, not I. 73 KH6HZ My apologies. I should have paid closer attention. Still, this hardly alters the facts as Dee presented them. Mark is NOT the victim as he so often presents himself to be. If there be any victims, it is the falsely accused VE's that Mark alluded to. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She replied to Robesin. Oh. So that makes her, what? An accomplice? For being factual? She was validating those of KH6HZ. She replied to Robesin. She if free to reply to Deigan if it were Deignan she wishe dto reply to. As is her right. Now, if she were to crap on each and every post with inane comments...well, we BOTH know who does that. She was making a learned statement of fact. That KH6HZ did a little research and pointed out some of the issues with the numbers and classifications of Hams in Mark's immediate area could have been researched by anybody, even you. Why would I? Is there another mailing going out to Mark's ham neighbors? Steve merely voiced the findings and added to them. Robesin adds nothing to the discussion except sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. But..but...it is OK for Mark to outright state that Steve's wife should have aborted their daughter? And prove to us that Mark's alleged wife is of one gender or another. We have no proof that she is even his wife. In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. How many of them are accredited VE examiners? Can you show me that? that Mark wrongfully accused of being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test session. So who was this VE? What did he/she tell you about the discussion he had with Mark? I'd like to know that myself. We have only Mark's "word", and Mark has been known to twist the facts to suit his eternal victim status. Dee has a great amount of credibility. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." Dee is well educated. That apparently rankles you and Mark. Mark has none. Dee has never misled or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has. So has Robesin and Deignan. How many amateurs are in their "Hoods?" (Good luck on getting a valid address for Deignan.) Why would I want same? Better yet, why would YOU want same? |
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"Mandy" anon@anon wrote:
My apologies. I should have paid closer attention. Still, this hardly alters the facts as Dee presented them. Mark is NOT the victim as he so often presents himself to be. If there be any victims, it is the falsely accused VE's that Mark alluded to. No biggie. You are correct, however. As is usually the case, Mark likes to fill his posts with 1/2 truths in a lame attempt to blame morse code somehow for his continuing woes as a victim of life. 73 kh6hz |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? He made an error that needed correcting (i.e. what tests Generals could give). Otherwise some readers might have ended up acting on this incorrect information and been disappointed. Dee, N8UZE |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE |
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE In retrospect, using the "cheerleader" descriptor thus presented, I could easily make a similar case that his no-code bias is glaringly obvious. Tit for tat, eh? Thanks again, Dee. |
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? He made an error that needed correcting (i.e. what tests Generals could give). Otherwise some readers might have ended up acting on this incorrect information and been disappointed. Dee, N8UZE Mark? In err? Oh, say it ain't so! Mark (no pun intended) my words...Mark will soon dispute you. He won't let a few facts stand in his way. |
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On Mar 9, 10:12�pm, wrote:
On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years * *Several points, Morkie... * *First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. *According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. *You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. * *Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. *That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. *Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. *Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. *To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. *The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. *If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. *No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? Mr. Cheese: What's wrong with N8UZE's response? And who is "Robesin"? Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks. She replied to Robesin. She was validating those of KH6HZ. She replied to Robesin. *She if free to reply to Deigan if it were Deignan she wishe dto reply to. Read her post again. Yep. She was making a learned statement of fact. That KH6HZ did a little research and pointed out some of the issues with the numbers and classifications of Hams in Mark's immediate area could have been researched by anybody, even you. Why would I? To ascertain the facts. Even if every single amateur in Mark's area were an accredited VE, there don't appear to bet enough who hold the FCC-required class of license to hold a VE session for him. *Is there another mailing going out to Mark's ham neighbors? Steve merely voiced the findings and added to them. Robesin adds nothing to the discussion except sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? *That IS news to me. Then you need to read the appropriate FCC rules about the class of license required of a VE for a particular license class. You obviously aren't up to speed on certain aspects of Part 97. that Mark wrongfully accused of being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test session. So who was this VE? *What did he/she tell you about the discussion he had with Mark? Dee has a great amount of credibility. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. *That's known as "bias." Mr. Cheese, you have just performed a textbook example of the classic "ad hominem" attack. N8UZE's opinion of Morse Code testing and/or ARRL has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual FCC rules about VE testing, yet you claim "bias" of some sort. Mark has none. Dee has never misled or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has. So has Robesin and Deignan. *How many amateurs are in their "Hoods?" *(Good luck on getting a valid address for Deignan.) Another example from you. Try sticking to the fact that there simply aren't enough amateurs who hold the required licenses within 20 miles of Mark in order to hold a VE session for General or Extra. That's one of the downsides for choosing to live in an area with low population density. --- It seems to me that an important point about VE testing has been missed in thise discussion - that of VEs being, well, "Volunteers". VEs aren't paid, unless you count the refreshments and maybe some expenses. They have to do a lot of paperwork and legwork to set up, run and document a VE session, all on their own time. Their amateur radio reputations and licenses are on the line every time they do so. Yet some unnamed VEs are being attacked and accused of bias simply because they didn't put on a special VE session for one amateur who chooses to live in a low-population-density area. Mark wanted VEs from outside his area to come to him, rather than he going to them, and blamed it all on them being "procode". As if there's something wrong with being in favor of Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself. There was no requirement that any VEs put on special sessions because of the rules changes. They did so anyway, as a favor, not a requirement. I am reminded of someone who accused certain VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over the license testing of a young amateur, even though the accuser did not know of any real fraud, was not present at the VE session, and in fact had no evidence and did not know any of the people involved at all. How about a little respect and thanks for the VEs? They certainly deserve it. AFAIK, "Mr. Cheese" is not a VE. Nor am I, or anyone posting to this thread except N8UZE. So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help with the licensing process. And all who have done so for more than 20 years, since the FCC abdicated the responsibility of testing for amateur radio licenses. Without those Volunteer Examiners, there would be no possibility of the so-called "Revolution". And I'll put my first name and call on this post. Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 9, 10:31 pm, "Mandy" anon@anon wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: Steve merely voiced the findings and added to them. Robesin adds nothing to the discussion except sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. But..but...it is OK for Mark to outright state that Steve's wife should have aborted their daughter? Doesn't a woman have the right to choose? And prove to us that Mark's alleged wife is of one gender or another. We have no proof that she is even his wife. What has this to do with amateur radio policy? It's none of your business. None of Robesin's business either. In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. How many of them are accredited VE examiners? Can you show me that? Can you? You're the one claiming that Mark lied. that Mark wrongfully accused of being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test session. So who was this VE? What did he/she tell you about the discussion he had with Mark? I'd like to know that myself. We have only Mark's "word", and Mark has been known to twist the facts to suit his eternal victim status. No, we have Robesin making accusations. I'd like to know which VE he talked to and got this information. Dee has a great amount of credibility. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." Dee is well educated. That apparently rankles you and Mark. Well educated people can be biased. No collitches even specialize in it. Mark has none. Dee has never misled or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has. So has Robesin and Deignan. How many amateurs are in their "Hoods?" (Good luck on getting a valid address for Deignan.) Why would I want same? Better yet, why would YOU want same? I could care less how many amateurs have to suffer with those two on their local repeaters. |
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On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE Fair enough. I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. That is all. |
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On Mar 10, 12:38 am, "Mandy" anon@anon wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE In retrospect, using the "cheerleader" descriptor thus presented, I could easily make a similar case that his no-code bias is glaringly obvious. Tit for tat, eh? Thanks again, Dee. No-Code is the law of the land. Is that bias? "Well you came and you gave without takin' But I sent you away, oh Mandy Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shakin' And I need you today, oh Mandy" Barry Manilow |
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On Mar 10, 7:40 am, wrote:
On Mar 9, 10:12?pm, wrote: On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years ? ?Several points, Morkie... ? ?First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. ?According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. ?You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. ? ?Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. ?That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. ?Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. ?Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. ?To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. ?The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. ?If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. ?No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? Mr. Cheese: What's wrong with N8UZE's response? She legitimizes Robesin's inuendo remarks and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. |
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On Mar 10, 12:04 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? He made an error that needed correcting (i.e. what tests Generals could give). He made other errors and accusations, i.e., "You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway." Why did you legitimize his inuendo and accusations with your remarks? Otherwise some readers might have ended up acting on this incorrect information and been disappointed. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, how would we have "acted" on incorrect information? which readers? |
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On Mar 10, 12:43 am, "Mandy" anon@anon wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message groups.com... On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies" wrote: You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual pagens morkietard. no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the trip in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple asking than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years Several points, Morkie... First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According to QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway. Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal licensure to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means that only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test you to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an Extra, so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above General. Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have changed, a VE (with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than the exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only administer Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to drive somewhere else. The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The Extras can administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct on the number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for General unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were VEs. So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they would not schedule an exam for him. Dee, N8UZE- Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate reply? He made an error that needed correcting (i.e. what tests Generals could give). Otherwise some readers might have ended up acting on this incorrect information and been disappointed. Dee, N8UZE Mark? In err? Oh, say it ain't so! Mark (no pun intended) my words...Mark will soon dispute you. He won't let a few facts stand in his way. "You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's only a Technician and ineligible to test you anyway." |
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As if there's something wrong with being in favor of Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself. Pretty much. A textbook example of how a large segment of the "No Code Agenda" isn't about simply removing the code test, but instead is interested in destroying the mode itself, due to some irrational hatred of the mode of operation. The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain their Extra-class license. I am reminded of someone who accused certain VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over the license testing of a young amateur, I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation. So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help with the licensing process. Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was enough for me. 73 kh6hz |
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On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote As if there's something wrong with being in favor of Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself. The TEST. Pretty much. A textbook example of how a large segment of the "No Code Agenda" isn't about simply removing the code test, but instead is interested in destroying the mode itself, due to some irrational hatred of the mode of operation. The TEST. The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain their Extra-class license. Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam. And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE? I am reminded of someone who accused certain VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over the license testing of a young amateur, I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation. I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns. So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help with the licensing process. Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was enough for me. 73 kh6hz How many COLEM exams? |
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Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam. Am I a pro-code test advocate? For the vast majority of people (say, those who are not severely mentally retarded), the 5wpm is a trivial examination. It involves little more than a mental table lookup... "Dadidadit..... ummm... that's a C'". Of course, there are always exceptions, and that's why VE teams could do a variety of things to aid people in passing their code examination (changing the tone of the tape, giving people more time to write things down during the test, etc. I'm sure Dee could tell us more on how VE teams can accomodate folks). Memorizing the table requires some effort... but in reality probably little more effort than people put into 'memorizing' the question pools prior to taking an examination. And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE? Did I state somewhere that a 5wpm examination disqualified them from being a VE? I must have missed that, or typed in invisible ink. I can't see it in my original posting. I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. I wouldn't know who world-famous DXers are. Virtually all my contacts are stateside. Never been much of a DX chaser myself. I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns. Who might that be? Can you give an example how these folks tell "others how to live their amateur lives"? Perhaps (for example purposes only) you mean some of these amateurs may have filed comments with the FCC calling for a reduction in code testing to 5wpm with a 'sunset clause' eliminating it altogether once the treaty requirement was removed? So, you don't like those types of amateurs telling you how to live your amateur life, a-la removing the code test? Well, I suppose if you're a die-hard 20wpm code tester, I can see how you'd be upset by that. Have no fear though, Brian, you can continue to make those 20+wpm code contacts all you want, even with the pesky little code test gone. How many COLEM exams? I've been to two. One for my General Radiotelephone and a 2nd for my GMDSS Operator/Maintainer license (needed that for my ocean-going trawler based in Washington, dontcha know). How about you? |
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/with the licensing process. And all who have done so /for more than 20 years, since the FCC abdicated the /responsibility of testing for amateur radio licenses. You're welcome. Jim VE-ARRL ($14) VE-GLAARG ($4) |
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wrote in message oups.com... I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. So this DX'er was out of his allocation? or were the Frenchman out of theirs? Seems if the latter, than they are at fault. Perhaps being to good little soldier, you could report them to the Ohio Ag as well. Hmmm, I seem to recall reading about a certian someone working people not only out band, but out of their allocation in a foreign country with no legal written authorization Hmmmmmm I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns. So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help with the licensing process. Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was enough for me. 73 kh6hz By the way Bry, does you hbeing silent on the fact that the elderly one fromm the left coast has threatened people mean you condone his viilence against others? Seems you have a great double standard there Bry How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double spaced Bry..you are the tool's tool Dean Anchors Away |
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message link.net... wrote: On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE Fair enough. I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. That is all. I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark. Dave K8MN If you notice, when a certain someone refers to a 2x4 across the head and causing someone to have to pick their teeth off the floor, good Ol Bry is just as silent. Guess that means he's legitimizing the violence threatened against others. Hmmmmm He does seem to possess all the traits of a trained monkey All he needs is to grind his organ and put on his tim cup |
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On Mar 10, 11:07 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE Fair enough. I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. That is all. I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark. Dave K8MN Sometimes? Don't hold back. What do you think of me the rest of the time? |
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On Mar 10, 11:31 am, "Dean M" wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message link.net... wrote: On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote: [snip] So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE team? That IS news to me. If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they must hold either an Advanced or Extra license. Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as "bias." My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area who are eligible to administer the General exam. Dee, N8UZE Fair enough. I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and accusations that Mark's wife is a man. That is all. I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark. Dave K8MN If you notice, when a certain someone refers to a 2x4 across the head and causing someone to have to pick their teeth off the floor, good Ol Bry is just as silent. I saw Dean publish that. I was not silent. Guess that means he's legitimizing the violence threatened against others. Who were you threatening? |
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