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wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 8:34 am And even when AF6AY pointed out the story to FCC in his Reply Comments to 98-143, FCC still believed it. * *Sweetums, NOBODY with the callsign AF6AY replied to FCC 98-143 * *on, before, or after 13 Jan 99. *It wasn't issued yet. *:-) You're right, Len! I was mistaken about that. My bad. Apologies all around. It was Leonard H. Anderson, a non-radio amateur at the time, who wrote those Reply Comments to FCC. There have been other verified stories about young amateurs. Since 2000, a six-year-old has passed the General, and a seven-year-old has passed the Extra. Both stories in QST. FCC had no problem believing either. In fact that seven-year-old broke the previous record, held by an eight-year-old who passed the old pre-2000 Extra, complete with 20 wpm code and five written tests. All those young amateurs still have their licenses. They haven't gotten into any problems with FCC. * *Wonderful. * I agree - it *is* wonderful. I'll just think of all you worshippers * *of St. Hiram as pre-teeners, mentality and reasoning * *"maturity" to match... *:-) Why? * *Now, just WHY are you continuing your "age limit" * *diatribe past the 8 year and 2 months time of that * *particular Comment on an NPRM that got settled by * *a Report and Order? How was it "settled", Len? FCC did not refer to your Reply Comments at all. * *Is it the usual "nyah, nyah" to be followed by a * *call to mommy by all you mental pre-teeners? No, Len - that's you projecting your own motivations and mentality on others. Again. I brought up the "age limit" thing because it has a direct bearing on the VE system. It would be interesting to see the reaction of the VEs who administered your testing to your accusations of "fraud" and "hypocrisy" aimed at the ARRL and some Indiana VEs. Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 11, 10:30 pm, "Dean M" wrote: wrote in message .. . On 11 Mar 2007 18:10:15 -0700, wrote: On Mar 11, 8:14 pm, "Dean M" wrote: wrote in message I think some complaints to your ISP for TOS violations are in order. Yes, that's the ticket Posting on a newsgroup using other than your real e-mail address...guess you're screwed there Bluster Man And who's going to report me? I will and did. It's amazing what you can come up with. Oh,no. Oh, no. When will the AG knock on my door? I'm skeered. LOL and for what? Whos' asking dipschitt go back to picking your nose Poor thing is getting all touchy about being made fun of. just like Nursie Have you been stupid all your life or did you Momma drop you on your head as an adult? WOW what a put down. I dunno Bry. Was that your momma sucking dick for a dollar over at the TKE house last week. I heard she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch You got all my hot-buttons with that one. Now I'm so mad that I could make a typo. and making a typo is well worthy of your hounding for at least the neext 10 years The best part of you Bry ran down your mamma ass and made a brown stain on the bedspread Does your wife know you play with potential HIV carriers Do you know that everyone is a potential HIV carrier? Especially emergency room nurses. and elitively few people are real HIV carrriers whanna keep playing BRY you son of DOS (yes I know what it means) You do? I didn't think you knew who your daddy was. I understand you were unit punk when you were in the military, got lost of experience mixing desel fuel with the laterine **** My lost of military experience is lost on no-servers such as yourself. whanna keep playiing?? We can start on your wife and kids..after all you openined this door Poor demented thing. Now he's gots to terrorize the wimmin and the kiddies. Next thing you know, he'll be slashing tires and throwing bricks through windows. and making shots and kills too no doubt now now there is better explanation that does get so personal raditation damage by OOK narrow band RF Marcus, go back to chasing DX That's Heil's job. Thanks for the comedy. It was a nice way to end the weekend. Great weather, took the kids fishing and played a little basketball. catch anything? probably a STD Poor demented thing. Thinks he can give folks STD's over the web. Nursie has the same delusion We gotta do this again more often. liek turn of the cnetiry:) Thanks for being such a good sport. http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ goitta run. Try waddling, you'll get farther. Off to the North for some skiing while the wx allows Right. More like a sleigh ride hauled by two draft horses. talk about me behijnd my back I'll wait for you get back. You give me so much material to work with it just wouldn't be the same without you. 2 losers Bry and Mark..perfect together But I like wimmin. does not matter people that would dare oppose him in the slightest can ONLY homosexauls Maybe they can hook up at the AES hamfest Never been to AES, but have done a fair amount of mail order with them in years gone by. it is fun to go there sometime given my father in law lives right outside town I get there fairly often Bry can be the giant prick and Marcus can bring the full body rubbers Doesn't sound like a fun time to me, but if that's what you need to fantasize about when you're with your soul-mate... does not sound like much to me either latex is just not my kink Ta dipschitts Sayonara, Mr. self-described Riff-Ralph.- Ralph indeed as in Puke |
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On Mar 11, 3:52�pm, "
wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 8:34 am And even when AF6AY pointed out the story to FCC in his Reply Comments to 98-143, FCC still believed it. * *NOBODY with the callsign AF6AY replied to FCC 98-143 * *on, before, or after 13 Jan 99. *It wasn't issued yet. *:-) You're right, Len! I was mistaken about that. My bad. Apologies all around. It was Leonard H. Anderson, a non-radio amateur at the time, who wrote those Reply Comments to FCC. And even though Reply Comments aren't supposed to bring up new subjects, the age limit thing was presented to FCC. There have been other verified stories about young amateurs. Since 2000, a six-year-old has passed the General, and a seven-year-old has passed the Extra. Both stories in QST. FCC had no problem believing either. In fact that seven-year-old broke the previous record, held by an eight-year-old who passed the old pre-2000 Extra, complete with 20 wpm code and five written tests. All those young amateurs still have their licenses. They haven't gotten into any problems with FCC. * *Wonderful. * I agree - it *is* wonderful. I'll just think of all you worshippers * *of St. Hiram as pre-teeners, mentality and reasoning * *"maturity" to match... *:-) Why? * *Now, just WHY are you continuing your "age limit" * *diatribe past the 8 year and 2 months time of that * *particular Comment on an NPRM that got settled by * *a Report and Order? How was it "settled", Len? FCC did not refer to your Reply Comments at all. * *Is it the usual "nyah, nyah" to be followed by a * *call to mommy by all you mental pre-teeners? No, Len - that's you projecting your own motivations and mentality on others. Again. Here's why I brought up the "age limit" thing: "hot-ham-and-cheese" claimed that nobody but me believed the story about the young amateurs. He said the whole thing was preposterous. I pointed out that not only did I believe it, but so did the FCC. Not only did FCC accept and process those licenses, but they took no action after Leonard H. Anderson pointed out the story on the ARRL website. So "hot-ham-and-cheese" was simply mistaken about me being the only one who believed the story. The "age limit thing" also has a direct bearing on the VE system. You accused complete strangers of "fraud" and "hypocrisy" with no evidence at all. It would be interesting to see the reaction of the VEs who administered your testing to your accusations of "fraud" and "hypocrisy" aimed at the ARRL and some Indiana VEs. Say - got that LP and tower up yet Len? How do you like the Icom IC-7800? Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 12, 2:31�pm, "
wrote: From: on Mon, Mar 12 2007 5:42 am On Mar 11, 3:52 pm, " wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 8:34 am And even when AF6AY pointed out the story to FCC in his Reply Comments to 98-143, FCC still believed it. *NOBODY with the callsign AF6AY replied to FCC 98-143 *on, before, or after 13 Jan 99. It wasn't issued yet. :-) You're right, Len! I was mistaken about that. My bad. Apologies all around. * *Good grief, an expression of personal WRONGNESS with * *an APOLOGY! *The world may be coming to an end! Why? I've always acknowledged and corrected my mistakes here. When they were genuine, objective mistakes, that is. It was Leonard H. Anderson, a non-radio amateur at the time, who wrote those Reply Comments to FCC. * *Oh, my, Jimmie BLEW IT ALL AWAY...! * *In 1998 I was NOT licensed as any radio amateur but * *was ALREADY licensed as a COMMERCIAL radio operator * *for 42 years...and had actual experience in long- * *distance HF communications 45 years before. So what? In 1998 you were not a radio amateur. How did my saying that simple fact blow it all away? * *Further, I had been a hobbyist in radio and * *electronics since 1947 (hobbies are classified as * *'amateur' activities by almost everyone else except * *olde-tyme ham morsemen). * And the FCC, ITU, and most radio amateurs. Not only that, in 1998 * *I had already retired from a four-decade career as * *an electronics engineer in southern California * *aerospace industries...and was already in a new * *career that had involved a Private Land Mobile * *Radio Services station of which I was co-owner. But you were not a radio amateur then. Gee, for somebody who claims not to need "rank, title and status", you sure do put yours out there often enough. * *So, you are wanting to still label me as an "amateur" * *in radio? You're a radio amateur, Len. When you got the license, you got that title. Anyone who holds a valid Amateur Radio license (regardless of license class) is a radio amateur. Nobody else. * *Of course you do. *You can't help but attempt to * *denigrate anything I post in here. *:-( Do you think that being called a radio amateur is an insult, Len? Here's *why I brought up the "age limit" thing: * *That's just this latest go-around. *What about all * *those OTHER past harrangues you've tried to hang * *on my SUGGESTION on minimum age limits? "Harangues", Len. One 'n'. I brought it up this time because it proved "hot-ham-and-cheese" to be mistaken. As for being a "SUGGESTION" - everything proposed to FCC in Comments and Reply Comments is essentially a "SUGGESTION". You wrote what you wanted FCC to do: ban anyone under the age of 14 from Amateur Radio. I think you still want that. FCC looked at your idea/proposal/suggestion/reasoning/arguments about that and chose not to act on it. "hot-ham-and-cheese" claimed that nobody but me believed the story about the young amateurs. He said the whole thing was preposterous. I pointed out that not only did I believe it, but so did the FCC. * *WRONG. * No, right. I pointed it out. The FCC did NOT "believe" it.. Sure they did. If they did not, they would not have issued the licenses. .the FCC * *accepted the input of the ARRL VEC. *Pro forma * *stuff done electronically. In 1998? Can you be sure? * *The FCC had long before introduced the "no age * *restrictions" on license applicants. Not exactly. There has *never* been *any* age restriction for a US amateur radio license. The FCC and all its predecessors in amateur radio regulations never ever saw the need for any such restriction. Not since the beginning of mandatory licensing in 1912. So "hot-ham-and-cheese" was simply mistaken about me being the only one who believed the story. * *NO. *You are confusing an ARRL "story" (an * *article on their website) with what YOU * *"think the FCC believes." *You only IMAGINE * *what "the FCC believes." The ARRL story was presented to FCC in your Reply Comments, Len. You went into detail about it as a reason to impose a minimum age requirement for an amateur radio license. Someone at FCC reads all the Comments and Reply Comments. So *people* at FCC knew all about the licensing of those 4 year olds, from your Reply Comments and the ARRL story. FCC also enforces their rules, and has investigated claims of rules violations at VE sessions. But they did not investigate that VE session, nor revoke any licenses or VE accreditation in connection with it. FCC clearly believed, and continues to believe, that there were no rules violations committed at the VE session which licensed those 4 year olds. FCC accepts the ARRL story as valid, not "preposterous". Otherwise they would have acted. The "age limit thing" also has a direct bearing on the VE system. * *Bull****. *Another fabrication of yours. Why? Because I proved "hot-ham-and-cheese" to be mistaken? You accused complete strangers of "fraud" and "hypocrisy" with no evidence at all. * *TS. *I will CONTINUE to do so, electronically * *or face-to-face in-person ANY time there is * *the OBVIOUS sign of such things. I don't think you would say these things in person. It would be interesting to see the reaction of the VEs who administered your testing to your accusations of "fraud" and "hypocrisy" aimed at the ARRL and some Indiana VEs. * *No problem to me. *Just pay for their transport * *and lodging out here, along with yourself, and * *you can "see" all you want. *Record it if you * *want. *I'll just gather a group of local licensed * *(and unlicensed) radio amateurs of like opinions * *and we can all have a big gang-bang. *Okay? I don't think you'd say it to the VEs by yourself. * *Otherwise, DROP this stupid harrangue of yours * *that is already SEVEN YEARS OLD. Who are you to tell me to shut up? *You aren't * *"winning' a damn thing and you are annoying * *the rest of the folks (with the exception of * *Heil, Deignan, and probably Kelly) with your * *"endless summer" of "no-age-limit" harrangues. Nobody is complaining except you, Len. Say - got that LP and tower up yet Len? How do you like the Icom IC-7800? * *I'm considering a Request for Quote from Harris on * *the station and for an octet of rhombics on a large * *ranch in Wyoming. * OK for DX but not optimum for USA contacts, except maybe to the coasts. Rhombics are so 1930s. too - the modern way is Yagis. Three elements on 40, for example. And why stop at 40? At this point in the sunspot sunspot cycle, an 80 meter quad is indicated... The octet is, naturally, for * *DX on 40m CW and up in frequency along with a remote * *switching selection to eliminate rotator needs. That's nice, Len. But who will operate it for you? * *[the cattle can graze peacefully underneath it all] * *I'm even considering abondoning that Wyoming * *territory in favor of Nevada or Arizona. *Takes time. Seven more years? * *No, I'm not buying stock in any of the Big3 in * *Japan. *The shares of General Electric and AT&T * *here are doing just fine. They don't make ham rigs. * *Thanks for asking. You're welcome! So I guess you won't be on the amateur bands any time soon. Particularly "40 CW and up". I could be mistaken about that, of course. 7037 kHz is the RRAP CW frequency, btw. I've worked quite a few there.... Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 12, 4:31 pm, "
wrote: From: on Mon, Mar 12 2007 5:42 am On Mar 11, 3:52 pm, " wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 8:34 am And even when AF6AY pointed out the story to FCC in his Reply Comments to 98-143, FCC still believed it. NOBODY with the callsign AF6AY replied to FCC 98-143 on, before, or after 13 Jan 99. It wasn't issued yet. :-) You're right, Len! I was mistaken about that. My bad. Apologies all around. Good grief, an expression of personal WRONGNESS with an APOLOGY! The world may be coming to an end! Indeed. I thought the end-times might be near... then I took a look on .Moderated. "PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. |
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On Mar 14, 2:59�am, wrote:
On Mar 12, 4:31 pm, " wrote: From: on Mon, Mar 12 2007 5:42 am On Mar 11, 3:52 pm, " wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 8:34 am And even when AF6AY pointed out the story to FCC in his Reply Comments to 98-143, FCC still believed it. *NOBODY with the callsign AF6AY replied to FCC 98-143 *on, before, or after 13 Jan 99. It wasn't issued yet. :-) You're right, Len! I was mistaken about that. My bad. Apologies all around. * *Good grief, an expression of personal WRONGNESS with * *an APOLOGY! *The world may be coming to an end! Indeed. *I thought the end-times might be near... "It won't be long now...." Except (of course) with Jimmie Doing His Thing about 'how everyone else that challenged Him (in anything) is always wrong.' :-) then I took a look on .Moderated. *"PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." *Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. *Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. Well, in this newsgroup as well as RRAM there's the usual self-praise of amateur radio for its "invaluable emergency work." :-) There must be a great deal of Conscience going on where hams aren't supposed to have FUN and ENJOYMENT out of their hobby. They have to endlessly rationalize among themselves that They are some kind of Minutemen of Emergency Communications, ready to spring into action at a moment's notice with superb, never-fail equipment to Save The Day! :-) Not likely. Some on RRAM aren't buying all that and are speaking truth. That's a very good thing, in my mind. [but Jimmie will spend hours at the keyboard teling me I'm all 'wrong' and 'mistaken' :-) ] I'm now INTO US amateur radio and intend to stay...as long as it remains a FUN HOBBY. If I wanted to DO emergency work, I'd go volunteer for such things with a recognized agency that actually DOES that sort of thing. Yesterday, the 13th of March, was the 55th personal anniversary of my being sworn into service with the United States Army. The reason for that volunteering was rather more SERIOUS at the time than playing around with radios in my spare time. Amateur radio just is NOT anywhere close to being that "serious" on a national or local scale. Amateur radio is basically a HOBBY, never anything more than that despite what all the chiefs and seniors of membership organizations say. At the start of this particular thread I put up some numbers about some amateur volunteers' efforts in exam testing and what other, numbers-oriented websites were showing was the result of all that. There was NO evidence then nor now on any "hordes of CB types" or "onslaught of no-coders" "suddenly filling the ranks (and, supposedly 'the bands'). What that really showed was only a slight bump in the status-quo of what all the self-proclaimed pro-coder gurus CLAIMED was going to happen. Yawn time. When I posted the first message on 7 Mar 07 I was not yet aware that the FCC had put me into the US amateur radio database. :-) Some others did later, which made me look again. Some of the "congratulators" (notably those pro-coders who think I'm a 'beginner' in radio) are now showing how hyprocritcal they really are... :-( No surprise to me since I had known of their traits long before. Most of this thread is filled with the usual filth and insults of the immature male kind who seem to have never out- grown their middle-school mentalities. That's a sad thing but we don't really know if those anony-mousies are at all INTO amateur radio. Nevertheless, I am INTO US amateur radio and intend to stay for a while...and also to speak my mind at MY discretion. :-) 73, Len AF6AY |
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Most of this thread is filled with the usual filth and insults of the immature male kind who seem to have never out- grown their middle-school mentalities. That's a sad thing but we don't really know if those anony-mousies are at all INTO amateur radio. Nevertheless, I am INTO US amateur radio and intend to stay for a while...and also to speak my mind at MY discretion. :-) 73, Len AF6AY Len, you'll find that the great majority of hams who get on the air in the ham bands are quite well behaved and friendly. This newsgroup is not a representative sample of hams. So get on the air (if you haven't already) and have fun with the various modes and aspects of ham radio! 73 de WA2ISE |
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On Mar 15, 9:15 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: Indeed. I thought the end-times might be near... then I took a look on .Moderated. "PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic already under discussion. Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave K8MN Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Though true, it is forbidden. |
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You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic already under discussion. Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave K8MN Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Though true, it is forbidden. well I give him a pass on the first time but not on his tatement he would do so again KNOWING they were out of band Jan: 738 messages Feb: 669 messages Mar: 668 messages (and the month is only 1/2 over!) |
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You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic already under discussion. Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave K8MN Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Though true, it is forbidden. well I give him a pass on the first time but not on his tatement he would do so again KNOWING they were out of band Jan: 738 messages Feb: 669 messages Mar: 668 messages (and the month is only 1/2 over!) Sir Spamalot thinks I made a "tatement". Dave K8MN |
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On Mar 15, 1:20�pm, robert casey wrote:
* *Most of this thread is filled with the usual filth and insults * *of the immature male kind who seem to have never out- * *grown their middle-school mentalities. *That's a sad thing * *but we don't really know if those anony-mousies are * *at all INTO amateur radio. *Nevertheless, I am INTO US * *amateur radio and intend to stay for a while...and also to * *speak my mind at MY discretion. *:-) * *73, Len *AF6AY Len, you'll find that the great majority of hams who get on the air in the ham bands are quite well behaved and friendly. *This newsgroup is not a representative sample of hams. *So get on the air (if you haven't already) and have fun with the various modes and aspects of ham radio! 73 de WA2ISE Roger that, Bob. Some long-time listening to the HF and 2m bands have shown me that. :-) When the new equipment arrives, I'll get busy re-arranging the home office for its new "radio room" function (at least in one corner). It may have to be with some #14 wire strung through the row of cypresses along one side of my property (for under 10m frequency bands) but that's life. :-) 73, Len AF6AY |
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On Mar 15, 9:15 am, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Indeed. *I thought the end-times might be near... then I took a look on .Moderated. *"PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." *Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. *Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic * already under discussion. *Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. *Though true, it is forbidden. Ooooo, yeah! But, reading the Dos and Don'ts message, der robust oberst could mention what he did but wouldn't be chastised about it! All be nice-nice on RRAM. Also a tad DULL. But, that too is life. 73, Len AF6AY |
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On Mar 15, 8:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 15, 9:15 am, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Indeed. I thought the end-times might be near... then I took a look on .Moderated. "PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic already under discussion. Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Though true, it is forbidden. You could certainly give it a try, hot-ham-and-cheese. I've seen nothing forbidding it. The only trouble is that you'd have to stick to civil conversation and you might have to stick to facts. In this case, you've stuck to innuendo. It has been repeatedly pointed out to you by me and others, that any station is responsible for his own operation under the regs of the country which has issued his license. Much of my conversation on this unmoderated newsgroup is civil, probably more civil than is deserved. What amateur rules require you to make contact with out of band Frenchmen on 6 Meters? |
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On Mar 16, 12:56 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 15, 8:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 15, 9:15 am, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Indeed. I thought the end-times might be near... then I took a look on .Moderated. "PRB-1 and CCNR" finally caught up with the long-time leader "Tubes." Funny how the long-timers gravitate to the subject of tubes. Some things never change and the end-times are again delayed. You're free to start a topic on something in which you have some experience or expertise if you feel that you can't contribute to a topic already under discussion. Maybe you could contribute some general knowledge of end fed antennas or begin a thread on the hows of DXing. Dave, what I can't do on .Moderated is discuss the exploits of a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Though true, it is forbidden. You could certainly give it a try, hot-ham-and-cheese. I've seen nothing forbidding it. The only trouble is that you'd have to stick to civil conversation and you might have to stick to facts. In this case, you've stuck to innuendo. It has been repeatedly pointed out to you by me and others, that any station is responsible for his own operation under the regs of the country which has issued his license. What amateur rules require you to make contact with out of band Frenchmen on 6 Meters? What amateur rules require you to make any contacts with anyone anywhere at any time? Dave K8MN So you have discretion in such matters yet you choose to plunge into the abyss of poor amateur practice. Bully for you. |
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wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 5:14 am On Mar 10, 9:59 pm, wrote: Jim, get over yourself. The story presented in QST is preposterous. Only you believed it. He CANNOT, Brian...:-) He's been dogging this one since 1999 and it must be eating him out internally. It's his own albatross hung around his neck...and that ancient mariner just can't make it all rhyme. What next, three year old Extras??? If this group is any indication, they'd fit right in. For example, Jimmie thinks that "AF6AY" wrote a comment to the FCC in 1998 (accepted on FCC 98-143 on 13 Jan 99) but that is clearly WRONG. Callsign AF6AY wasn't even close on the sequential callsign list back then. Jimmie was first licensed in US amateur radio at age 14 so he bridles at any mention, even suggestions that a minimum age be set at 14. Who is Jimmie? That is, who is Jimmie to say? Jimmie is a champion of OOK CW morse code and gets upset when others don't think that is "important." Jimmie gets all upset when others don't worship St. Hiram and all the things that are old in ham radio. Sigh... Morse Jihadists. Perhaps they've developed a belt of capacitors, all highly charged... I replied to Jim Weir of Grass Valley, CA, and a former Primary candidate for Governor of California. Jimmie Miccolis of Pennsylvania has never run for any government elected position and certainly never served in the military. Say Hi to Jim for me. But, Jimmie runs his newsgroup "transceiver" at "full break- in" whenever he hears my "signal." :-) Perhaps the FCC will require safties and semi-auto capability in this new breed of assault transceiver. It be QRM, with heavy QRN on top of it. 73, Len AF6AY |
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On Mar 11, 5:49 pm, " wrote: From: on Sun, Mar 11 2007 5:14 am On Mar 10, 9:59 pm, wrote: Jim, get over yourself. *The story presented in QST is preposterous. Only you believed it. * *He CANNOT, Brian...:-) *He's been dogging this one since 1999 * *and it must be eating him out internally. *It's his own * *albatross hung around his neck...and that ancient mariner * *just can't make it all rhyme. What next, three year old Extras??? *If this group is any indication, they'd fit right in. Why not "three year old extras?" :-) No "age discrimination" is always the Rule with those guys. "CQ CQ CQ dah dah goo goo..." :-) New jargon in the ham bands? :-) * *For example, Jimmie thinks that "AF6AY" wrote a comment to * *the FCC in 1998 (accepted on FCC 98-143 on 13 Jan 99) but * *that is clearly WRONG. *Callsign AF6AY wasn't even close on * *the sequential callsign list back then. *Jimmie was first * *licensed in US amateur radio at age 14 so he bridles at any * *mention, even suggestions that a minimum age be set at 14. Who is Jimmie? *That is, who is Jimmie to say? "Jimmie crack corn an' he do say..." (from old folk song) Let's all hope his knuckle-spanking ruler broke... * *Jimmie is a champion of OOK CW morse code and gets upset * *when others don't think that is "important." *Jimmie gets * *all upset when others don't worship St. Hiram and all the * *things that are old in ham radio. *Sigh... Morse Jihadists. *Perhaps they've developed a belt of capacitors, all highly charged... Watch out, they have Farads and they know how to use them! * *I replied to Jim Weir of Grass Valley, CA, and a former * *Primary candidate for Governor of California. *Jimmie * *Miccolis of Pennsylvania has never run for any government * *elected position and certainly never served in the military. Say Hi to Jim for me. I'd like to meet Jim Weir sometime. Never have even though I've been very near his airport works while visiting Jim Hall, KD6JG. Jim Weir had his picture in the LA Times as one of a great number of Primary election candidates. He's a doer, not a diss-cusser like so many in here. * *But, Jimmie runs his newsgroup "transceiver" at "full break- * *in" whenever he hears my "signal." *:-) Perhaps the FCC will require safties and semi-auto capability in this new breed of assault transceiver. That's up to the NTIA...or perhaps the NRA. :-) FCC might step in, perhaps, if the computer-control of rigs became commonplace. :-) ...meanwhile, awaiting some radio stuff... 73, Len AF6AY |
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ups.com: On Mar 15, 1:20�pm, robert casey wrote: * *Most of this thread is filled with the usual filth and insults * *of the immature male kind who seem to have never out- * *grown their middle-school mentalities. *That's a sad thing * *but we don't really know if those anony-mousies are * *at all INTO amateur radio. *Nevertheless, I am INTO US * *amateur radio and intend to stay for a while...and also to * *speak my mind at MY discretion. *:-) * *73, Len *AF6AY Len, you'll find that the great majority of hams who get on the air in the ham bands are quite well behaved and friendly. *This newsgroup is not a representative sample of hams. *So get on the air (if you haven't already) and have fun with the various modes and aspects of ham radio! 73 de WA2ISE Roger that, Bob. Some long-time listening to the HF and 2m bands have shown me that. :-) When the new equipment arrives, I'll get busy re-arranging the home office for its new "radio room" function (at least in one corner). It may have to be with some #14 wire strung through the row of cypresses along one side of my property (for under 10m frequency bands) but that's life. :-) 73, Len AF6AY Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP |
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On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago I did NOT "do as I said years ago." Miccolis MANUFACTURED some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well out of context at the time. I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license until the 17th of February. That's the truth regardless of how others twist around old statements of mine. However, once IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work towards that goal with more attention. There is NO extra- special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to pass those tests. All it takes is some attention-focused work. Len AF6AY |
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On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago I did NOT "do as I said years ago." No, you most certainly did not. You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". You did squat for those years. Miccolis MANUFACTURED some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license until the 17th of February. That's the truth regardless of how others twist around old statements of mine. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. However, once IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work towards that goal with more attention. There is NO extra- special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to pass those tests. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. All it takes is some attention-focused work. Many told you so. You usually dismissed them. You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/smterms.html |
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On Mar 19, 6:42�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote groups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago * *I did NOT "do as I said years ago." * No, you most certainly did not. *You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". * You did squat for those years. Dave, Haven't you figured out Len's game yet? It's really simple. He plants errors in his posts, then argues with and derides some of those who point them out. * *MANUFACTURED * *some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well * *out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. *That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. Here's a link to that posting of Jan 19, 2000: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv And the famous quote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " "an old friend" knows what Len meant. You know what Len meant. I know what Len meant. Anyone who understands plain English who reads that post knows what Len meant. btw - more recently, Len boasted that he could pass the Extra with or without the Morse Code test. Since he waited until after the Morse Code test was eliminated, it proved to be an idle boast. * *I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license * *until the 17th of February. Note that Len does not mention which year! I think he meant Feb 17 1999, soon after the Reply Comments to 98-143 closed. You know - the Reply Comments where he proposed a minimum age of 14 years for any class of Amateur Radio license. That's the truth regardless of how * *others twist around old statements of mine. * See? It's all other people's fault. Even though Len wrote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " way back then. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. * *However, once * *IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Do you think Len has an HF amateur radio station of his own operational yet? If he ever does set up a station, do you think it will be a state-of-the-art experimental station, mostly homebrew? Or do you think it will be an assembly of off-the-shelf manufactured equipment? * *Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work * *towards that goal with more attention. * I could have told Len that back in 1970, when I got my Extra in the summer between 10th and 11th grade. There is NO extra- * *special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to * *pass those tests. * Yup. Yet it took Len all those years to get his. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. Not a one. * *All it takes is some attention-focused * *work. How about that! Even with all of Len's PROFESSIONAL experience, it took *work* for him to pass the Extra. I didn't think it was work at all, back in 1970. Nor now. Many told you so. *You usually dismissed them. *You were told the same about learning Morse code. Consider Len's game, Dave. He says he will do things, then doesn't do them. Like the way he said he would leave rrap when the Morse Code test was eliminated. Element 1 went away, but Len didn't. Or he says things and then denies he said them. Then folks waste time pointing out his errors, and he gets to insult them for telling the truth. Keep at it and he'll toss in the Byte Brothers quote and other insults. Here's that link anc quote, again: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " And he finally did - seven years later. Now he's finally a new radio amateur. A novice, beginner, tyro, tenderfoot, wet-behind-the-ears, just-out-of-the-box newbie to amateur radio. Go a little easy on Len. He needs quite a bit of Elmering, I think. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 19, 6:42�pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago � �I did NOT "do as I said years ago." � No, you most certainly did not. �You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". � You did squat for those years. Dave, Haven't you figured out Len's game yet? It's really simple. He plants errors in his posts, then argues with and derides some of those who point them out. Well he *makes* a great many factual errors. I didn't think they were all planted though. � �MANUFACTURED � �some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well � �out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. �That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. Here's a link to that posting of Jan 19, 2000: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv And the famous quote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " "an old friend" knows what Len meant. You know what Len meant. I know what Len meant. Anyone who understands plain English who reads that post knows what Len meant. I'm banking on that. He bragged. He fell. btw - more recently, Len boasted that he could pass the Extra with or without the Morse Code test. Since he waited until after the Morse Code test was eliminated, it proved to be an idle boast. It is something he'll never have the opportunity to find out. � �I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license � �until the 17th of February. Note that Len does not mention which year! No, he does not. I think he meant Feb 17 1999, soon after the Reply Comments to 98-143 closed. You know - the Reply Comments where he proposed a minimum age of 14 years for any class of Amateur Radio license. That's the truth regardless of how � �others twist around old statements of mine. � See? It's all other people's fault. Even though Len wrote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " way back then. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. � �However, once � �IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Do you think Len has an HF amateur radio station of his own operational yet? Noooooo. If he ever does set up a station, do you think it will be a state-of-the-art experimental station, mostly homebrew? Noooooo. Or do you think it will be an assembly of off-the-shelf manufactured equipment? Assuredly. � �Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work � �towards that goal with more attention. � I could have told Len that back in 1970, when I got my Extra in the summer between 10th and 11th grade. I believe you could have. Len just procrastinated for decades. He couldn't overcome inertia. There is NO extra- � �special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to � �pass those tests. � Yup. Yet it took Len all those years to get his. Inertia. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. Not a one. So where does Len get his ideas? Does he forget that *he* is the one who has stated such things? � �All it takes is some attention-focused � �work. How about that! Even with all of Len's PROFESSIONAL experience, it took *work* for him to pass the Extra. But what has Len said of "work" in the past? I didn't think it was work at all, back in 1970. Nor now. You wouldn't think it would be much work for a PROFESSIONAL. Many told you so. �You usually dismissed them. �You were told the same about learning Morse code. Consider Len's game, Dave. He says he will do things, then doesn't do them. Like the way he said he would leave rrap when the Morse Code test was eliminated. Element 1 went away, but Len didn't. If you couple his deliberate and other factual errors with the fact that you can't take him at his word, you aren't left with much. Or he says things and then denies he said them. Then folks waste time pointing out his errors, and he gets to insult them for telling the truth. ....or says that those things are MANUFACTURED out of whole cloth or that they are taken out of context. Keep at it and he'll toss in the Byte Brothers quote and other insults. ....or tell you to DROP IT! Here's that link anc quote, again: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " And he finally did - seven years later. Now he's finally a new radio amateur. A novice, beginner, tyro, tenderfoot, wet-behind-the-ears, just-out-of-the-box newbie to amateur radio. Yup. Go a little easy on Len. He needs quite a bit of Elmering, I think. Most neophytes do. Dave K8MN |
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On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago * *I did NOT "do as I said years ago." * No, you most certainly did not. *You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". *You did squat for those years. * *Miccolis MANUFACTURED * *some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well * *out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. *That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. * *I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license * *until the 17th of February. *That's the truth regardless of how * *others twist around old statements of mine. * I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. * *However, once * *IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. * *Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work * *towards that goal with more attention. *There is NO extra- * *special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to * *pass those tests. * I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. * *All it takes is some attention-focused * *work. Many told you so. *You usually dismissed them. *You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. *I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. *After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. *All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/smterms.html- Hide quoted text - Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great David Heil! :-) Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he started campaigning for Manager. Could have come back years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! :-) 73, Len AF6AY |
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wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/smterms.html-Hide quoted text - Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great David Heil! :-) Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he started campaigning for Manager. Could have come back years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! :-) 73, Len AF6AY- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...daa0cf5?hl=en& In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. I think it's the latter. In any case, Heil did both. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. |
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On Mar 19, 9:13�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 19, 6:42?pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago I did NOT "do as I said years ago." LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " No, you most certainly did not. You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ? You did squat for those years. Dave, Haven't you figured out Len's game yet? It's really simple. He plants errors in his posts, then argues with and derides some of those who point them out. Well he *makes* a great many factual errors. *I didn't think they were all planted though. I didn't say they were *all* planted. But consider the one under discussion. Len wrote in January 2000 that he was going for Extra out of the box. No mention of waiting for the Morse Code test to be removed. Then he finally does it seven years and some days later. All easily verified facts. But then he says he did not do as he said he would do, years ago. Why would someone put such an obvious and easily-disproved error into a posting here? MANUFACTURED some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well out of context at the time. See? There he goes! The context is crystal clear, yet he says the whole thing is "MANUFACTURED". It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. Here's a link to that posting of Jan 19, 2000: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv And the famous quote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " "an old friend" knows what Len meant. You know what Len meant. I know what Len meant. Anyone who understands plain English who reads that post knows what Len meant. I'm banking on that. *He bragged. *He fell. He finally did it, though. btw - more recently, Len boasted that he could pass the Extra with or without the Morse Code test. Since he waited until after the Morse Code test was eliminated, it proved to be an idle boast. It is something he'll never have the opportunity to find out. I'm sure a simulated test could be arranged. I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license until the 17th of February. Note that Len does not mention which year! No, he does not. I think he meant Feb 17 1999, soon after the Reply Comments to 98-143 closed. You know - the Reply Comments where he proposed a minimum age of 14 years for any class of Amateur Radio license. * *That's the truth regardless of how others twist around old statements of mine. See? It's all other people's fault. Even though Len wrote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " way back then. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. However, once IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Do you think Len has an HF amateur radio station of his own operational yet? Noooooo. If he ever does set up a station, do you think it will be a state-of-the-art experimental station, mostly homebrew? Noooooo. Or do you think it will be an assembly of off-the-shelf manufactured equipment? Assuredly. It's really simple: Len wants others to do as he says, not as he does. Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work towards that goal with more attention. I could have told Len that back in 1970, when I got my Extra in the summer between 10th and 11th grade. I believe you could have. *Len just procrastinated for decades. *He couldn't overcome inertia. Nobody really knows. * *There is NO extra- special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to pass those tests. Yup. Yet it took Len all those years to get his. Inertia. Maybe. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. Not a one. So where does Len get his ideas? *Does he forget that *he* is the one who has stated such things? Actually, that's probably true. Have you forgotten the post where I explained the basics of the psychological terms "projection" and "transference"? Here's a handy link, for reference: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en or http://tinyurl.com/2jsrdb All it takes is some attention-focused work. How about that! Even with all of Len's PROFESSIONAL experience, it took *work* for him to pass the Extra. But what has Len said of "work" in the past? Refresh my memory. I didn't think it was work at all, back in 1970. Nor now. You wouldn't think it would be much work for a PROFESSIONAL. I do recall Len complaining that learning Morse Code was hard work for him. He claimed to have reached 7 or 8 wpm way back when. Many told you so. You usually dismissed them. You were told the same about learning Morse code. Consider Len's game, Dave. He says he will do things, then doesn't do them. Like the way he said he would leave rrap when the Morse Code test was eliminated. Element 1 went away, but Len didn't. If you couple his deliberate and other factual errors with the fact that you can't take him at his word, you aren't left with much. Projection. Transference. Or he says things and then denies he said them. Then folks waste time pointing out his errors, and he gets to insult them for telling the truth. ...or says that those things are MANUFACTURED out of whole cloth or that they are taken out of context. Yet we never get an explanation of the context. Keep at it and he'll toss in the Byte Brothers quote and other insults. ...or tell you to DROP IT! Or to go get....you know the rest. And after all that, he will complain about the 'filth' in a thread. Here's that link anc quote, again: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " And he finally did - seven years later. Now he's finally a new radio amateur. A novice, beginner, tyro, tenderfoot, wet-behind-the-ears, just-out-of-the-box newbie to amateur radio. Yup. Go a little easy on Len. He needs quite a bit of Elmering, I think. Most neophytes do. Ah yes, neophyte. What the Gs call 'nippers'. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen.. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...tml-Hidequoted text - * *Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great * *David Heil! * :-) * *Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he * *started campaigning for Manager. *Could have come back * *years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! * :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. He says that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Anything said negative against him is "worst." Doesn't matter what the subject is... :-) Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. *I think it's the latter. *In any case, Heil did both. He might be hedging his bets... His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. No sweat. He is "superior" to anyone. Sooner or later he will rule the (amateur) world... Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... 73, Len |
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On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...Hidequotedtext - ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. He says that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Anything said negative against him is "worst." Doesn't matter what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. No sweat. He is "superior" to anyone. Sooner or later he will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... 73, Len Hopefully, he represents only hisself. |
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On Mar 21, 2:16�pm, wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae.... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. * *He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. *He says * *that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? * *Anything said negative against him is "worst." *Doesn't matter * *what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Normally that is true. To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment that can be made to them! :-) Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. * *He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... :-( His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. * *No sweat. *He is "superior" to anyone. *Sooner or later he * *will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! :-) * *Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" salute 73, Len |
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On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Normally that is true. To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment that can be made to them! :-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... :-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. You know the drill. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he acceptor decline the position? ... to spend more time with his family. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" salute 73, Len A true democracy! |
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On Mar 22, 3:02�pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote: On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? * *Normally that is true. *To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment * *that can be made to them! *:-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter.. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. * *Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... *:-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. That's nice... Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. That might be interesting... Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. *You know the drill. Well, he IS an olde-tymer and a morseman. I doubt if there will be any close-order drill involved. Should not be a problem for one of the "old school" in hamateur raddio. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he accept or decline the position? * ... to spend more time with his family. Ahem..."family?" A second wife, maybe the daughter from the first marriage...? His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. * *Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! * :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. * *To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" * * salute A true democracy! A "solo oligarchy!" :-) The old Greeks would approve...maybe. The original representative government-congress model for the rest of the world (of the Vikings and roughly preserved in Iceland) called the 'allthing' would not. One doesn't mess with Vikings. :-) 73, Len |
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On Mar 22, 8:58 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 22, 3:02?pm, wrote: On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote: On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? ? ?Normally that is true. ?To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment ? ?that can be made to them! ?:-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. ? ?Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... ?:-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. That's nice... Maybe not. At least I'm not in the Roanoke Division. Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. That might be interesting... Might be a long, long wait. Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. You know the drill. Well, he IS an olde-tymer and a morseman. I doubt if there will be any close-order drill involved. Should not be a problem for one of the "old school" in hamateur raddio. He doesn't work for a living, so he is hugely qualified. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he accept or decline the position? ? ... to spend more time with his family. Ahem..."family?" A second wife, maybe the daughter from the first marriage...? Yep, when a skeleton pops up, candidate gets scarce and claim they are spending time with their families. Let the healing begin. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. ? ?Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! ? :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. ? ?To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" ? ? salute A true democracy! A "solo oligarchy!" :-) The old Greeks would approve...maybe. Would the new Greeks? The original representative government-congress model for the rest of the world (of the Vikings and roughly preserved in Iceland) called the 'allthing' would not. Valhalla. One doesn't mess with Vikings. :-) I don't mess with my Nye-Viking... much. 73, Len 73 |
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oups.com: On Mar 19, 9:13�pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 6:42?pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago I did NOT "do as I said years ago." LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " No, you most certainly did not. You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ? You did squat for those years. Dave, Haven't you figured out Len's game yet? It's really simple. He plants errors in his posts, then argues with and derides some of those who point them out. Well he *makes* a great many factual errors. *I didn't think they were all planted though. I didn't say they were *all* planted. But consider the one under discussion. Len wrote in January 2000 that he was going for Extra out of the box. No mention of waiting for the Morse Code test to be removed. Then he finally does it seven years and some days later. All easily verified facts. But then he says he did not do as he said he would do, years ago. Why would someone put such an obvious and easily-disproved error into a posting here? MANUFACTURED some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well out of context at the time. See? There he goes! The context is crystal clear, yet he says the whole thing is "MANUFACTURED". It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. Here's a link to that posting of Jan 19, 2000: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv And the famous quote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " "an old friend" knows what Len meant. You know what Len meant. I know what Len meant. Anyone who understands plain English who reads that post knows what Len meant. I'm banking on that. *He bragged. *He fell. He finally did it, though. btw - more recently, Len boasted that he could pass the Extra with or without the Morse Code test. Since he waited until after the Morse Code test was eliminated, it proved to be an idle boast. It is something he'll never have the opportunity to find out. I'm sure a simulated test could be arranged. I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license until the 17th of February. Note that Len does not mention which year! No, he does not. I think he meant Feb 17 1999, soon after the Reply Comments to 98-143 closed. You know - the Reply Comments where he proposed a minimum age of 14 years for any class of Amateur Radio license. * *That's the truth regardless of how others twist around old statements of mine. See? It's all other people's fault. Even though Len wrote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " way back then. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. However, once IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Do you think Len has an HF amateur radio station of his own operational yet? Noooooo. If he ever does set up a station, do you think it will be a state-of-the-art experimental station, mostly homebrew? Noooooo. Or do you think it will be an assembly of off-the-shelf manufactured equipment? Assuredly. It's really simple: Len wants others to do as he says, not as he does. Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work towards that goal with more attention. I could have told Len that back in 1970, when I got my Extra in the summer between 10th and 11th grade. I believe you could have. *Len just procrastinated for decades. *He couldn't overcome inertia. Nobody really knows. * *There is NO extra- special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to pass those tests. Yup. Yet it took Len all those years to get his. Inertia. Maybe. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. Not a one. So where does Len get his ideas? *Does he forget that *he* is the one who has stated such things? Actually, that's probably true. Have you forgotten the post where I explained the basics of the psychological terms "projection" and "transference"? Here's a handy link, for reference: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...g/71787776dd60 6ca9?dmode=source&hl=en or http://tinyurl.com/2jsrdb All it takes is some attention-focused work. How about that! Even with all of Len's PROFESSIONAL experience, it took *work* for him to pass the Extra. But what has Len said of "work" in the past? Refresh my memory. I didn't think it was work at all, back in 1970. Nor now. You wouldn't think it would be much work for a PROFESSIONAL. I do recall Len complaining that learning Morse Code was hard work for him. He claimed to have reached 7 or 8 wpm way back when. Many told you so. You usually dismissed them. You were told the same about learning Morse code. Consider Len's game, Dave. He says he will do things, then doesn't do them. Like the way he said he would leave rrap when the Morse Code test was eliminated. Element 1 went away, but Len didn't. If you couple his deliberate and other factual errors with the fact that you can't take him at his word, you aren't left with much. Projection. Transference. Or he says things and then denies he said them. Then folks waste time pointing out his errors, and he gets to insult them for telling the truth. ...or says that those things are MANUFACTURED out of whole cloth or that they are taken out of context. Yet we never get an explanation of the context. Keep at it and he'll toss in the Byte Brothers quote and other insults. ...or tell you to DROP IT! Or to go get....you know the rest. And after all that, he will complain about the 'filth' in a thread. Here's that link anc quote, again: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " And he finally did - seven years later. Now he's finally a new radio amateur. A novice, beginner, tyro, tenderfoot, wet-behind-the-ears, just-out-of-the-box newbie to amateur radio. Yup. Go a little easy on Len. He needs quite a bit of Elmering, I think. Most neophytes do. Ah yes, neophyte. What the Gs call 'nippers'. 73 de Jim, N2EY A nipper is a child - on air we call them 'harmonics'. Oddly enough, we refer to both spurii and children as 'sprogs' also. 73 de Alun, N3KIP, G8VUK |
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