K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


K4YZ wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:

However, the US Navy does issue callsigns to amateurs at Antarcti=
c Bases
(ie,
KC4AAA, KC4AAC) and Guantanamo Bay (ie, KG4ML, KG4OX).

I forgot about Gitmo and Antarctica...You're completely correct.

And let's not forget the KC4USA thru USZ series...


Who "forgot" it? That's part of the Antarctic Bases block administer=
ed by USN.

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB

Hi!

I missed the humor, Brain.

Nothing new there.

Is the United States Navy part of the federal government?

"Sorry Hans, USN IS FCC."

And did Hans NOT cite the USA through USN blocks in his post?

Yes, he did not. He cited KC4AAA, KC4AAC, KG4ML, and KG4OX.

Steve, K4YZ

You got one right.

These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur licenses held
by individuals on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of June 15, 2005:

Novice - 28,271 (decrease of 21,058)
Technician - 269,048 (increase of 63,654)
Technician Plus - 48,743 (decrease of 80,117)
General - 136,560 (increase of 23,883)
Advanced - 76,000 (decrease of 23,782)
Extra - 106,793 (increase of 28,043)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,891 (decrease of 16,363)

Total all classes - 665,415 (decrease of 9,377)

Note that these totals do not include licenses that
have expired but are in the grace period. They also
do not include club, military, RACES or other
station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus or
Advanced licenses are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur licenses held
by individuals on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of June 30, 2005:

Novice - 28,151 (decrease of 21,178)
Technician - 269,286 (increase of 63,892)
Technician Plus - 48,369 (decrease of 80,491)
General - 136,435 (increase of 23,758)
Advanced - 75,812 (decrease of 23,970)
Extra - 106,852 (increase of 28,102)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,655 (decrease of 16,599)

Total all classes - 664,905 (decrease of 9,887)

Note that these totals do not include licenses that
have expired but are in the grace period. They also
do not include club, military, RACES or other
station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus or
Advanced licenses are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of July 15, 2005:

Novice - 28,080 (decrease of 21,249)
Technician - 269,658 (increase of 64,264)
Technician Plus - 48,064 (decrease of 80,796)
General - 136,377 (increase of 23,700)
Advanced - 75,730 (decrease of 24,052)
Extra - 106,908 (increase of 28,158)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,722 (decrease of 16,532)

Total all classes - 664,817 (decrease of 9,975)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

your point in these looks like biweekly updates?

wrote:
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of July 15, 2005:

Novice - 28,080 (decrease of 21,249)
Technician - 269,658 (increase of 64,264)
Technician Plus - 48,064 (decrease of 80,796)
General - 136,377 (increase of 23,700)
Advanced - 75,730 (decrease of 24,052)
Extra - 106,908 (increase of 28,158)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,722 (decrease of 16,532)

Total all classes - 664,817 (decrease of 9,975)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"an_old_friend" wrote


your point in these looks like biweekly updates?


1st and 15th, just like clockwork.

It's a nasty job, but somebody has to do it.

an_old_friend wrote:
your point in these looks like biweekly updates?

Simple:

They provide a running record of the number of licensed
amateurs in the USA, by license class. Growth and decline
over time can be seen. And the information will be preserved
as long as rrap is archived somewhere.

It should be noted that the number of US hams grew slightly after the
rules changes of April 2000, peaking in early 2003. Since then, all the
gain has gone and the totals are now almost 10,000 below what they were
before the rules changes.



wrote:
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of July 15, 2005:

Novice - 28,080 (decrease of 21,249)
Technician - 269,658 (increase of 64,264)
Technician Plus - 48,064 (decrease of 80,796)
General - 136,377 (increase of 23,700)
Advanced - 75,730 (decrease of 24,052)
Extra - 106,908 (increase of 28,158)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,722 (decrease of 16,532)

Total all classes - 664,817 (decrease of 9,975)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

From: an_old_friend on Jul 16, 10:14 pm


your point in these looks like biweekly updates?

He feels "important" and "of service" to the "amateur community.

Never mind that he cribs from www.qrz.com which is what anyone
can do...or even www.hamdata.com.


wrote:
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates:

As of May 14, 2000:

That's very nice but the PEAK of licensing happened on
2 July 2003. shrug

As of the end of 16 July 2005, www.hamdata.com had the
following number of licensees per class, obtained from the
publicly-available FCC database;

Technician 294,523 (40.80%)
Technician Plus 55,280 ( 7.66%)
Novice 33,521 ( 4.64%)
General 146,748 (20.33%)
Advanced 82,371 (11.41%)
Extra 109,509 (15.17%)

Total Individual 721,952 [less 9,590 "club" calls]

In the last 12 months there were 16,149 NEW licenses granted
but there were 19,086 expirations for a net gain of -2,937.

In the last 24 months there was an overall gain of -6,835
licenses.

The total of Technician and Technician Plus licensees now
make up 48.46% of all individual licensees. The number of
Technician class licensees is over twice as many as Generals.


Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued, and that all existing
Technician Plus licenses are being renewed as
Technician.

Note also that, effective 1934, the FCC is the civil radio
regulating agency in the United States. [might as well be
"complete" about old notices... :-) ]

bit bit

From: on Jul 16, 10:51 pm


an_old_friend wrote:
your point in these looks like biweekly updates?

Simple:

They provide a running record of the number of licensed
amateurs in the USA, by license class. Growth and decline
over time can be seen. And the information will be preserved
as long as rrap is archived somewhere.

Oh, woweeee. Is that like "preserved for posterity?" :-)

Don't QRZ and Hamdata do any "archiving?"

I'm sure the FCC does "archiving." After all, they are the
ones granting the licenses, keeping the database... :-)


It should be noted that the number of US hams grew slightly after the
rules changes of April 2000, peaking in early 2003. Since then, all the
gain has gone and the totals are now almost 10,000 below what they were
before the rules changes.

Based on "archived data" on Hamdata.com, the number of
individual licensees on 16 July 2003 were 738,787. The
number of individual licensees on 16 July 2005 were
721,542. That's a difference of 6,835...HARDLY anything
close to "almost 10,000 below." Turns out that 6,835 is
68.35 percent of 10,000 and a LOT closer to two-thirds.

I'm just using the total number of individual licensees.
If I were to use "only" those who were not in the grace
period, that number would be SMALLER than that, even
farther from 10,000 that you state.

So far, you haven't been able to do much in the way of
Real Numbers, Mr. Engineer. Too much diesel smoke from
the engine sooting up your notes? Tsk.

Well, okay, maybe its all that "effort" to download the
FCC publicly-available database clouded your thinking, right?
You DO download that all by yourself, don't you? DSL you
got, right? Then do the sorting by fields to get what you
want? Did you write the program yourself or did you have
help? Let us know, okay?

Myself, all I need is to glance at Hamdata or QRZ website
and trust them. shrug In here we have YOUR "service,"
right? [ e pluribus micollis ] [sounds like a microbe...]

Did you know that your "service" postings for posterity
have now reached "1800" posts on Google? Actually its only
about 1200 by Google count...I used "1800" because that is
about like your math of "almost 10,000"..."1800" is "almost
like" 1200. :-)

No, that's wrong! "800" is "almost like" 1200! But the
Google message count hasn't changed! Amazing...you post
more and it totals up less! :-) [fun with numbers!]

So, Jimmah, what about the two Technician classes getting
close to the 50% point? No snarly gotta-love-morse comments
on that? Didn't you try to say all those Technicians were
going to drastically DROP in numbers a year or so ago?
Why haven't they dropped, oh servant seer to the grope?

Quick, waste everyone's time with your old PCTA mantras
chanted in here!

dit dot

an_old_friend wrote:


your point in these looks like biweekly updates?


I love anything qith *bi* in it!!!