In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

And we've all seen your even-more-prodigious output here in this newsgroup,
Len. Under a wide variety of AOL screen names - nocwtest, lenof21,
averyfine,
averyfineman, lenover21, and probably more.

I have never used "Avery Fine" as a screen name.

That's been proven to be incorrect.

"Len Of 21" is my
primary AOL screen name. Someone else has "No CW Test."

I have used NO other screen names in here.

" wasn't you?

My real name and current mailing address is the same as it appeared
many times as bylines in Ham Radio Magazine.

How is anyone to know that when reading your newsgroup posts? Those articles
are well over a decade old, and "ham radio" (no caps in their logo) magazine
hasn't published a new issue for years.

Why should anyone believe your calims when you can't even remember your screen
names? Someone who posts as much as you do would ordinarily remember such
things.

In article , (N2EY)
writes:

Why should anyone believe your calims when you can't even remember your
screen
names? Someone who posts as much as you do would ordinarily remember such
things.

In article , (N2EY)
writes:

" wasn't you?

Why do you ask? I haven't been able to use Mog-Ur's EMS BBS in
years...Tom closed it down after being one of the first 10 BBSs in
the USA. He had Internet access for about a year until it got too
expensive and subscribers left to go directly on the Internet.

Tom Tcimpdis (easy Greek surname, just pronounce it like it is written),
KC6MLR, television video director, twice won Emmys for outstanding
technical direction ("Night Court" series, "Sinatra, the Man and His
Music" special). Built his own BBS to start with years and years ago
from a Heath H8 microcomputer, had to write his own software to get
it going as a Bulletin Board System. Had a fairly good side business
of custom personal computer systems, may still do that. Private pilot,
multi-engine rated, a road rally sportsman from way back. You can see
his picture on QRZ.com...:-) Quaffed a few with Tom at the 94th
Aerosquadron Restaurant at Van Nuys Airport, a regular hang-out for
several San Fernando Valley BBS members of the 80s and 90s.

"Mog-Ur" is a character name taken from the novel "Clan of the Cave
Bear." "EMS" is an acronym for Electronic Message System, in use
in computer-modem communications before EMS for Emergency
Medical Service became standards.. "Mog-Ur's" survives on the Internet
today after more than 20 years of existance.

My real name and current mailing address is the same as it appeared
many times as bylines in Ham Radio Magazine.

How is anyone to know that when reading your newsgroup posts?

Do you need ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES, authenticated by some
federal agency?!?!?

Go look in the FCC ECFS...under all the RMs from 10781 through 10787
and FCC 03-104. The listings have my postal address and my AOL
address.

Those articles
are well over a decade old, and "ham radio" (no caps in their logo) magazine
hasn't published a new issue for years.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. HAM RADIO Magazine, an independent amateur radio
interest periodical (50,000 issues a month) lasted for TWENTY TWO
YEARS solely on the basis of advertising space sales. Publisher
Skip Tenney finally sold it to CQ Communications and probably retired.
Founding Editor in Chief Jim Fisk (SK, ex-W1HR) wasn't around to help
keep up the interest of the readers of a technically-oriented magazine.

Both CQ and ARRL sell a three-CD set of all 22 years of HR for $150
(shipping extra, always an extra with ARRL). Lots of good technical
information in there.

Why should anyone believe your calims when you can't even remember your screen
names? Someone who posts as much as you do would ordinarily remember such
things.

Ah, being the NEWSGROUP KOP!

Well, then Mister Kop, why don't you just make yourself Emperor of the
newsgroup and RESTRICT ACCESS only to those whom YOU APPROVE.
Until that happens, THIS newsgroup is still open to the public.

I've been doing computer-modem communications since 1984, 19 years
in all...as a subscriber, as a Sysop, as a co-Sysop, and as a public
forum moderator. I'm NOT going to remember everything anymore than
you can over nearly a two decade span of time...AND THERE IS NO
DAMN REASON TO REMEMBER EVERY PICKY LITTLE DETAIL TO
SOOTHE YOUR IMAGINED PERSONAL HURT.

I have this nice card punch at the ready. Just hand me your "TS card"
and I will punch it for you...:-)

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (N2EY)
writes:

" wasn't you?

Why do you ask?

Because you told us that you hadn't used any other screen names "in
here" besides that long list of AOL ones.

I haven't been able to use Mog-Ur's EMS BBS in
years...

7, to be exact.

Tom closed it down after being one of the first 10 BBSs in
the USA. He had Internet access for about a year until it got too
expensive and subscribers left to go directly on the Internet.

Tom Tcimpdis (easy Greek surname, just pronounce it like it is written),
KC6MLR, television video director, twice won Emmys for outstanding
technical direction ("Night Court" series, "Sinatra, the Man and His
Music" special). Built his own BBS to start with years and years ago
from a Heath H8 microcomputer, had to write his own software to get
it going as a Bulletin Board System. Had a fairly good side business
of custom personal computer systems, may still do that. Private pilot,
multi-engine rated, a road rally sportsman from way back. You can see
his picture on QRZ.com...:-) Quaffed a few with Tom at the 94th
Aerosquadron Restaurant at Van Nuys Airport, a regular hang-out for
several San Fernando Valley BBS members of the 80s and 90s.

Is there a point to all this besides your trying to avoid the fact
that you forgot yet another screen name you used in rrap?

"Mog-Ur" is a character name taken from the novel "Clan of the Cave
Bear."

Actually, it's a title. The character's name is Creb. "The Mog-Ur" is
a title/function he performed in the Clan.

"EMS" is an acronym for Electronic Message System, in use
in computer-modem communications before EMS for Emergency
Medical Service became standards.. "Mog-Ur's" survives on the Internet
today after more than 20 years of existance.

Is there *any* relevance to all your verbiage? Someone asks you the
time, and you give them directions to Boulder and a long diatribe on
the development of the various atomic standards there.

My real name and current mailing address is the same as it appeared
many times as bylines in Ham Radio Magazine.

How is anyone to know that when reading your newsgroup posts?

Do you need ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES, authenticated by some
federal agency?!?!?

Go look in the FCC ECFS...under all the RMs from 10781 through 10787
and FCC 03-104. The listings have my postal address and my AOL
address.

Doesn't answer the question.

How is anyone who reads a post by

"
"
"
"
"
or
"

supposed to know that all of them are one and the same person - if,
indeed, they are? Particularly when your name does not appear anywhere
in many of them?

Why should they believe you when you say you have not posted by other
names, when it has been shown that your list of screen names left out
at least two that you have used?

Those articles
are well over a decade old, and "ham radio" (no caps in their logo) magazine
hasn't published a new issue for years.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. HAM RADIO Magazine,

There are no capital letters in the logo printed on the magazine
covers. They did the e.e.cummings thing. "ham radio" is the name of
the mag, not "HAM RADIO".

Just look at the cover.

an independent amateur radio
interest periodical (50,000 issues a month) lasted for TWENTY TWO
YEARS solely on the basis of advertising space sales.

That's not correct.

The magazine subscriptions cost money, so they did not exist "solely
on the basis of advertising space sales" If the subscription/newstand
price was $20 per year and there were 50,000 subscribers/newstand
buyers per month, that's a *million dollars* of revenue from
subscriptions. Back when $1,000,000 was a lot of money.

Existed ""solely on the basis of advertising space sales"? I think
not! Were that true, the subscriptions would have been free. Like most
industry magazines.

Also, I seriously doubt that the mag was 50,000 copies/month for the
entire 22 years.

Publisher
Skip Tenney finally sold it to CQ Communications and probably retired.
Founding Editor in Chief Jim Fisk (SK, ex-W1HR) wasn't around to help
keep up the interest of the readers of a technically-oriented magazine.

IOW, it ultimately failed in the marketplace. Too bad - it was a good
mag in its time.

Why do you live in the past so much?

Both CQ and ARRL sell a three-CD set of all 22 years of HR for $150
(shipping extra, always an extra with ARRL). Lots of good technical
information in there.

The newest of which is well over a decade old. Many of the parts used
in the projects are now made of unobtanium.

A complete set of QST is also available on CD. Every issue, all the
way back to December 1915. Almost four times as long as "ham radio"

QST is still being published - the oldest still-published radio
magazine in the world.

I've written for QST.

You haven't.

Why should anyone believe your calims when you can't even remember your screen
names? Someone who posts as much as you do would ordinarily remember such
things.

Ah, being the NEWSGROUP KOP!

Just asking a question. And pointing out your mistakes.

btw, it's spelled "cop".

Well, then Mister Kop, why don't you just make yourself Emperor of the
newsgroup and RESTRICT ACCESS only to those whom YOU APPROVE.
Until that happens, THIS newsgroup is still open to the public.

Is there a rule against asking questions? Or pointing out when
someone's statements are demonstrably mistaken?

I've been doing computer-modem communications since 1984, 19 years
in all...as a subscriber, as a Sysop, as a co-Sysop, and as a public
forum moderator.

But you're not the moderator here.

I'm NOT going to remember everything anymore than
you can over nearly a two decade span of time...

Nobody expects you to remember everyhting. That's what Google is for.

We do expect, however, that you behave in a civil manner and not be so
nasty when something you write is proven to be a mistake.

AND THERE IS NO
DAMN REASON TO REMEMBER EVERY PICKY LITTLE DETAIL TO
SOOTHE YOUR IMAGINED PERSONAL HURT.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor angry baby! ;-)

No "hurt" on my part at all, Len. You're the one who is shouting and
carrying on. I'm just asking simple, direct questions. And pointing
out a few mistakes.

I have this nice card punch at the ready. Just hand me your "TS card"
and I will punch it for you...:-)

Sounds like another threat. Can you not resolve differences peaceably?

You may imagine yourself as a modern Jondalar or Creb, but you come
off like Broud and Attaroa.

Would Doni approve? I think not.

Gotta go! 'Ayla' just gave me "the signal"!!!

In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(N2EY)
writes:

" wasn't you?

Why do you ask?

Because you told us that you hadn't used any other screen names "in
here" besides that long list of AOL ones.

I haven't been able to use Mog-Ur's EMS BBS in
years...

7, to be exact.

Tom closed it down after being one of the first 10 BBSs in
the USA. He had Internet access for about a year until it got too
expensive and subscribers left to go directly on the Internet.

Tom Tcimpdis (easy Greek surname, just pronounce it like it is written),
KC6MLR, television video director, twice won Emmys for outstanding
technical direction ("Night Court" series, "Sinatra, the Man and His
Music" special). Built his own BBS to start with years and years ago
from a Heath H8 microcomputer, had to write his own software to get
it going as a Bulletin Board System. Had a fairly good side business
of custom personal computer systems, may still do that. Private pilot,
multi-engine rated, a road rally sportsman from way back. You can see
his picture on QRZ.com...:-) Quaffed a few with Tom at the 94th
Aerosquadron Restaurant at Van Nuys Airport, a regular hang-out for
several San Fernando Valley BBS members of the 80s and 90s.

Is there a point to all this besides your trying to avoid the fact
that you forgot yet another screen name you used in rrap?

You are manufacturing a non-issue which has nothing to do
with any sort of radio subject.

"Mog-Ur" is a character name taken from the novel "Clan of the Cave
Bear."

Actually, it's a title. The character's name is Creb. "The Mog-Ur" is
a title/function he performed in the Clan.

Irrelevant. Petty literary details.

"EMS" is an acronym for Electronic Message System, in use
in computer-modem communications before EMS for Emergency
Medical Service became standards.. "Mog-Ur's" survives on the Internet
today after more than 20 years of existance.

Is there *any* relevance to all your verbiage? Someone asks you the
time, and you give them directions to Boulder and a long diatribe on
the development of the various atomic standards there.

Tom Tcimpidis has an amateur radio license and is listed in QRZ
with his famous/infamous "at the controls of a 727" picture.

Details of NIST time-frequency activities are available from their
own web site. If you need directions to Boulder, CO, there are
several map and direction services available on the Internet.



supposed to know that all of them are one and the same person - if,
indeed, they are? Particularly when your name does not appear anywhere
in many of them?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, still trying to manufacture a "dispute" based on your
personal irritation.

You are perfectly free to question AOL Member Services directly
if you are so disturbed over "identities." YOU are a subscriber
there. YOUR screen name does not identify you by legal name..

Why should they believe you when you say you have not posted by other
names, when it has been shown that your list of screen names left out
at least two that you have used?

Why should anyone believe that you are real? :-)

Your manufactured "dispute" is becoming absurd.


an independent amateur radio
interest periodical (50,000 issues a month) lasted for TWENTY TWO
YEARS solely on the basis of advertising space sales.

That's not correct.

No? :-)

The magazine subscriptions cost money, so they did not exist "solely
on the basis of advertising space sales" If the subscription/newstand
price was $20 per year and there were 50,000 subscribers/newstand
buyers per month, that's a *million dollars* of revenue from
subscriptions. Back when $1,000,000 was a lot of money.

Existed ""solely on the basis of advertising space sales"? I think
not! Were that true, the subscriptions would have been free. Like most
industry magazines.

Also, I seriously doubt that the mag was 50,000 copies/month for the
entire 22 years.

If you wish to demand an accounting or an investigation of Publishers'
Sworn Statements, then you've gone slightly bonkers in pique. :-)

Subscription fees (periodicals usually call them "fulfillment" fees) only
cover the mailing costs and distribution services' various charges. That
is a "break-even" situation where the periodical has no real income.

Profit for a periodical comes from advertising space sales in all of the
"independents" (those not affiliated with membership organizations).
That is true for 73, CQ, Popular Communications, et al. The more ad
space sold, the more the profit for the periodical's business.

There's no other profit for periodicals, not even when they run a sideline
business such as HR did with their Ham Radio Bookstore. The ad
space for the Bookstore could have been used by other advertisers.

QST is a membership magazine of the ARRL. As such, the amount of
profit or loss from QST advertising space sales can be handled by the
parent organization. QST gains slightly by having the easily-identifiable
demographics of the number of members (see their page for the latest
numbers).

Publisher
Skip Tenney finally sold it to CQ Communications and probably retired.
Founding Editor in Chief Jim Fisk (SK, ex-W1HR) wasn't around to help
keep up the interest of the readers of a technically-oriented magazine.

IOW, it ultimately failed in the marketplace. Too bad - it was a good
mag in its time.

Why do you say "good?" All you've done so far in this manufactured
dispute is to charge a technologically-oriented amateur publication
with fraud or misrepresentation.

You know little about basic organizations and budgets of periodicals
yet claim some "expertise" sufficient to engage in manufactured
"disputes." :-)


A complete set of QST is also available on CD. Every issue, all the
way back to December 1915. Almost four times as long as "ham radio"

I'm sure. ARRL was founded in 1914.

Why do YOU live in that past so much? :-)

QST is still being published - the oldest still-published radio
magazine in the world.

Are you absolutely CERTAIN of that? :-)

Can QST survive as an independent periodical, solely on the profit
of ad space sales? We will never know because QST was never
an independent.

I've written for QST.

BFD.

You haven't.

Absolutely true. What was your staff title at QST? That would be
listed on their masthead every issue... :-)



But you're not the moderator here.

Neither are you, Mistah Kopp.


I have this nice card punch at the ready. Just hand me your "TS card"
and I will punch it for you...:-)

Sounds like another threat. Can you not resolve differences peaceably?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Rev. Jimmie doesn't know about chaplains' "TS" cards?

:-)

Ah yes, Rev. Jimmie wasn't in any military service of the United States.

I shall ask forgiveness of using familiar military service humor terms.

Would 50 Hail Hirams be enough penance for that?

Would a side of theses nailed to a church door be too much? :-)

[Marty, you should have seen these guys...:-) ]

LHA

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(N2EY)
writes:

" wasn't you?

Why do you ask?

Because you told us that you hadn't used any other screen names "in
here" besides that long list of AOL ones.

I haven't been able to use Mog-Ur's EMS BBS in
years...

7, to be exact.

Tom closed it down after being one of the first 10 BBSs in
the USA. He had Internet access for about a year until it got too
expensive and subscribers left to go directly on the Internet.

Tom Tcimpdis (easy Greek surname, just pronounce it like it is
written),
KC6MLR, television video director, twice won Emmys for outstanding
technical direction ("Night Court" series, "Sinatra, the Man and His
Music" special). Built his own BBS to start with years and years ago
from a Heath H8 microcomputer, had to write his own software to get
it going as a Bulletin Board System. Had a fairly good side business
of custom personal computer systems, may still do that. Private pilot,
multi-engine rated, a road rally sportsman from way back. You can see
his picture on QRZ.com...:-) Quaffed a few with Tom at the 94th
Aerosquadron Restaurant at Van Nuys Airport, a regular hang-out for
several San Fernando Valley BBS members of the 80s and 90s.

Is there a point to all this besides your trying to avoid the fact
that you forgot yet another screen name you used in rrap?

You are manufacturing a non-issue which has nothing to do
with any sort of radio subject.

So? You go far afield from any radio subject whenever you feel like it.

"Mog-Ur" is a character name taken from the novel "Clan of the Cave
Bear."

Actually, it's a title. The character's name is Creb. "The Mog-Ur" is
a title/function he performed in the Clan.

Irrelevant. Petty literary details.

It's as relevant as the "94th Aero Squadron"

"EMS" is an acronym for Electronic Message System, in use
in computer-modem communications before EMS for Emergency
Medical Service became standards.. "Mog-Ur's" survives on the Internet
today after more than 20 years of existance.

Is there *any* relevance to all your verbiage? Someone asks you the
time, and you give them directions to Boulder and a long diatribe on
the development of the various atomic standards there.

Tom Tcimpidis has an amateur radio license and is listed in QRZ
with his famous/infamous "at the controls of a 727" picture.

Yeah, he's a Novice. Which makes him far more experienced as a radio amateur
than you, Len.

Details of NIST time-frequency activities are available from their
own web site. If you need directions to Boulder, CO, there are
several map and direction services available on the Internet.

Don't need 'em. I was there - at both the NIST site in Boulder and the WWV/WWVB
transmitter site in Fort Collins. Found 'em both without website help. Got some
good pictures of the then-current "atomic clock" and the trnasmitter site
antennas. And a picture of myself standing next to the sign at the transmitter
site. They're in the album with the pictures of my visit to ARRL Hq where I met
a few of the staff and operated W1AW.

supposed to know that all of them are one and the same person - if,
indeed, they are? Particularly when your name does not appear anywhere
in many of them?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, still trying to manufacture a "dispute" based on your
personal irritation.

No irritation on my part at all, Len. I'm just pointing out some facts.

You are perfectly free to question AOL Member Services directly
if you are so disturbed over "identities." YOU are a subscriber
there. YOUR screen name does not identify you by legal name..

So? Anyone who knows anyhting about amateur radio recognizes "N2EY" as an
amateur radio callsign, which is actually more unique than a legal name. There
are lots of people with your name, and there may be others with my name. But
there is only one person assigned the amateur radio callsign N2EY. And that's
me.

Oh wait, you don't have an amateur radio callsign...

Why should they believe you when you say you have not posted by other
names, when it has been shown that your list of screen names left out
at least two that you have used?

Why should anyone believe that you are real? :-)

Because I am. If you operated on the amateur bands you might know that. Oh
wait, you've never been an amateur radio operator....

Your manufactured "dispute" is becoming absurd.

It's about your credibility in here, Len. Or lack thereof.

an independent amateur radio
interest periodical (50,000 issues a month) lasted for TWENTY TWO
YEARS solely on the basis of advertising space sales.

That's not correct.

No? :-)

No. ;-) ;-) ;-)

The magazine subscriptions cost money, so they did not exist "solely
on the basis of advertising space sales" If the subscription/newstand
price was $20 per year and there were 50,000 subscribers/newstand
buyers per month, that's a *million dollars* of revenue from
subscriptions. Back when $1,000,000 was a lot of money.

Existed ""solely on the basis of advertising space sales"? I think
not! Were that true, the subscriptions would have been free. Like most
industry magazines.

Also, I seriously doubt that the mag was 50,000 copies/month for the
entire 22 years.

If you wish to demand an accounting or an investigation of Publishers'
Sworn Statements, then you've gone slightly bonkers in pique. :-)

Subscription fees (periodicals usually call them "fulfillment" fees) only
cover the mailing costs and distribution services' various charges. That
is a "break-even" situation where the periodical has no real income.

Nonsense. It all benefits the bottom line. You said the mag existed "solely on
the basis of advertising space sales". Not profited - existed.

Profit for a periodical comes from advertising space sales in all of the
"independents" (those not affiliated with membership organizations).
That is true for 73, CQ, Popular Communications, et al. The more ad
space sold, the more the profit for the periodical's business.

Then why aren't those magazines free?

All income benefits the bottom line, whatever it's called or wherever it comes
from. You said the mag existed "solely on the basis of advertising space
sales". Not profited - existed. That's simply not true.

There's no other profit for periodicals, not even when they run a sideline
business such as HR did with their Ham Radio Bookstore. The ad
space for the Bookstore could have been used by other advertisers.

Doesn't matter.

QST is a membership magazine of the ARRL. As such, the amount of
profit or loss from QST advertising space sales can be handled by the
parent organization.

So?

QST gains slightly by having the easily-identifiable
demographics of the number of members (see their page for the latest
numbers).

They also lose by having to run the organization, which does things far beyond
putting out a magazine.

Publisher
Skip Tenney finally sold it to CQ Communications and probably retired.
Founding Editor in Chief Jim Fisk (SK, ex-W1HR) wasn't around to help
keep up the interest of the readers of a technically-oriented magazine.

IOW, it ultimately failed in the marketplace. Too bad - it was a good
mag in its time.

Why do you say "good?"

It had some good articles in its time.

All you've done so far in this manufactured
dispute is to charge a technologically-oriented amateur publication
with fraud or misrepresentation.

Where? What charges?

You're the only one who has charged a publisher of "fraud".

You are not the publisher of "ham radio" magazine, and never were.

You know little about basic organizations and budgets of periodicals
yet claim some "expertise" sufficient to engage in manufactured
"disputes." :-)

You're trying to avoid a basic acciunting issue.

A complete set of QST is also available on CD. Every issue, all the
way back to December 1915. Almost four times as long as "ham radio"

I'm sure. ARRL was founded in 1914.

And the first issue of QST was December 1915.

Why do YOU live in that past so much? :-)

I don't - you do, recalling a magazine defunct for over a decade, lilitary
radio experiences of a half century ago, employers you have not worked for in
decades, etc.

Oh wait, you don't have an amateur radio callsign, have never been a radio
amateur....

QST is still being published - the oldest still-published radio
magazine in the world.

Are you absolutely CERTAIN of that? :-)

Yep.

I've written for QST.

BFD.

What do you mean by "BFD", Len? Spell it out for us.

You haven't.

Absolutely true.

Finally, something factual from you.

But you're not the moderator here.

Neither are you, Mistah Kopp.

Never claimed to be. You try to be one, though.

I have this nice card punch at the ready. Just hand me your "TS card"
and I will punch it for you...:-)

Sounds like another threat. Can you not resolve differences peaceably?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Rev. Jimmie doesn't know about chaplains' "TS" cards?

:-)

More than you think.

Ah yes, Rev. Jimmie wasn't in any military service of the United States.

And you are not, and have never been, a radio amateur. Yet you lecture us
endlessly on the subject.

Really?? Which month/year were they published?? Would be interested in
reading them.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
--. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-.
... --. .... - . .-. ...


I've written for QST.

You haven't.

Got your email Jim, and thanks! I will check those out.

Ryan

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...
Really?? Which month/year were they published?? Would be interested in
reading them.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
--. --- -.. ... .- -. --. . .-.. ... .- .-. . ..-. .. .-. . ..-.
.. --. .... - . .-. ...


I've written for QST.

You haven't.

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message ...
Got your email Jim, and thanks! I will check those out.

Also see the top of page 62 in QST for June, 1989. Although I did not
write it, there is a mention of me that is a bit out of the
ordinary....

73 de Jim, N2EY

Got it. I have noticed a few others that are posters here in QST as well.

Ryan KC8PMX

"N2EY" wrote in message
om...
"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...
Got your email Jim, and thanks! I will check those out.

Also see the top of page 62 in QST for June, 1989. Although I did not
write it, there is a mention of me that is a bit out of the
ordinary....

73 de Jim, N2EY