Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed limit, so
laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the flow of
traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token, slower
drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of traffic
(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't defend
the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic either.
I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On multiple
lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is one of the
most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all highway
speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that bunching
up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to move to the
right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the slower
vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes, even if
some are speeding.

W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.

"JJ" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed limit,
so
laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the flow
of
traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token,
slower
drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of
traffic
(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't
defend
the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic
either.
I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On
multiple
lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is one of
the
most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all
highway
speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that
bunching
up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to move to
the
right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the
slower
vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes, even
if
some are speeding.

W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.


From the description, it is the person coming up behind that is trying to
disrupt the flow of traffic as Kim stated that she was going the same speed
as the traffic ahead of her. The person coming up behind would be then
trying to force a whole stream of cars one after another to move over for
him/her.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee D. Flint wrote:

"JJ" wrote in message
...

Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed limit,

so

laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the flow

of

traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token,

slower

drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of

traffic

(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't

defend

the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic

either.

I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On

multiple

lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is one of

the

most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all

highway

speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that

bunching

up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to move to

the

right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the

slower

vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes, even

if

some are speeding.

W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.



From the description, it is the person coming up behind that is trying to
disrupt the flow of traffic as Kim stated that she was going the same speed
as the traffic ahead of her. The person coming up behind would be then
trying to force a whole stream of cars one after another to move over for
him/her.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I fail to see what is so hard to understand about the law...slower
traffic stays to the right. It really is very simple.

JJ wrote:

Dee D. Flint wrote:

"JJ" wrote in message
...

Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed limit,


so

laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the
flow


of

traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token,


slower

drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of


traffic

(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't


defend

the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic


either.

I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On


multiple

lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is
one of


the

most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all


highway

speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that


bunching

up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to
move to


the

right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the


slower

vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes, even


if

some are speeding.


W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.



From the description, it is the person coming up behind that is trying to
disrupt the flow of traffic as Kim stated that she was going the same
speed
as the traffic ahead of her. The person coming up behind would be then
trying to force a whole stream of cars one after another to move over for
him/her.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I fail to see what is so hard to understand about the law...slower
traffic stays to the right. It really is very simple.


Until 1977 the road signs in Texas read, "SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT",
those signs are being replaced with "LEFT LANE FOR PASSING ONLY". How
much clearer than that can it be? Even Kim should be able to grasp the
concept of that.
It is all spelled out in the Star Telegram article.

JJ wrote:

Kim W5TIT wrote:


This violator isn't in denial at all. This violator is waiting for mere
words to turn into action...

Kim W5TIT


So your mentality is, "until I am caught, I will continue to break the
law." Do you speed throught school zones with that same attitude?


I asked this question of another poster and got no answer, so I will ask
you Kimmygirl. What is the fast speed you can go in a 15 MPH school zone?

In article , JJ
writes:

N2EY wrote:

My daily commute to work is often made longer by school buses and school
zones.
It's gotten so I know exactly where the zones, the children, and the bus
stops
are. Is it adult behavior for me to go faster than 15 in a school zone, or
zoom
past a bus with its red lights flashing, because I *feel* I can do so
safely?

So what is the max speed you can go in a 15 mph school zone?

If there's no reason to go slower or stop - 15 mph. And no faster, even if I
*feel* I can go faster safely.

In similar fashion, if I see a school bus put on the red lights and/or the
little stop sign folds out, I don't try to go by in either direction. Even if I
can plainly see that there are no children who could possibly be in danger from
my car, and I may *feel* I can proceed safely, I don't go until the red lights
are out. Because that's the law and it's the safe way.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

I don't accept JJ's submission at all.


One has to register to view the The Ft. Worth Star Telegram's article
archives, so I didn't look any further. However, will you accept a
submission from the National Highway Traffic Safety Adminstration (DOT)
website instead? If so, this link will take you to a description of Texas
traffic laws. Scroll down words "Minimum Speed Limit" on the left and then
read the information to the right of that (quoted below).

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...98/txspeed.htm

Minimum Speed Limit:
I. No person shall drive so slowly
as to impede the normal and
reasonable movement of traffic.
Tran. Code §545.363(a)
II. A person, driving at less than the
normal speed of traffic, shall drive in
the right-hand lane then available for
traffic or as close as practicable to
the right-hand curb or edge of the
roadway. Tran. Code §545.051(b)


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Cool. I'll check that website out. However, the two above put me legal
driving in the left lane--since I am traveling at the speed that the
*majority* of drivers are driving in the left hand lane, which makes *that*
the flow of traffic--with the people desiring to blast passed all of us in
the wrong; they are going against the flow (at least in my opinion).

Kim W5TIT

"JJ" wrote in message
...
Dee D. Flint wrote:

"JJ" wrote in message
...

Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed
limit,

so

laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the
flow

of

traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token,

slower

drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of

traffic

(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't

defend

the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic

either.

I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On

multiple

lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is one
of

the

most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all

highway

speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that

bunching

up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to move
to

the

right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the

slower

vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes, even

if

some are speeding.

W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.



From the description, it is the person coming up behind that is trying
to
disrupt the flow of traffic as Kim stated that she was going the same
speed
as the traffic ahead of her. The person coming up behind would be then
trying to force a whole stream of cars one after another to move over
for
him/her.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I fail to see what is so hard to understand about the law...slower
traffic stays to the right. It really is very simple.


JJ, there is a line in that *commentary* in the newspaper article you
referred to: something about the signs that say Left Lane for Passing Only.
Well, I'll look on my way in to the office in the morning but, as far as I
can remember, there is not one sign in the 32 mile stretch of highway that I
travel that says anything about "Left Lane for Passing Only."

Kim W5TIT

"JJ" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:

Dee D. Flint wrote:

"JJ" wrote in message
...

Dwight Stewart wrote:



In general, you're right. Nobody is supposed to break the speed
limit,


so

laws about slower vehicles moving to the right and not impeding the
flow


of

traffic don't defend the speeder's actions. But, by the same token,


slower

drivers are supposed to move to the right and not impede the flow of


traffic

(if those are the laws in your state), so someone speeding doesn't


defend

the actions of the slower driver who is impeding the flow of traffic


either.

I know that sounds strange, but there is some logic behind it. On


multiple

lane highways, congestion (cars bunching too closely together) is
one of


the

most common causes of accidents. And congestion is dangerious at all


highway

speeds, but even more so when drivers are speeding. To prevent that


bunching

up, many states have adopted laws to encourage slower drivers to
move to


the

right so faster vehicles can proceed without bunching up behind the


slower

vehicle. The idea is to keep all vehicles flowing smoothly - yes,
even


if

some are speeding.


W5TWIT wants to play citizen traffic cop, it isn't for her to decide
if
someone is going to fast and make them slow down by staying in the
left
lane (even though she is exceeding the speed limit herself), she is
obliged to move over and let the faster traffic pass. It is up to the
authorities to take care of the speeder.



From the description, it is the person coming up behind that is trying
to
disrupt the flow of traffic as Kim stated that she was going the same
speed
as the traffic ahead of her. The person coming up behind would be then
trying to force a whole stream of cars one after another to move over
for
him/her.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I fail to see what is so hard to understand about the law...slower
traffic stays to the right. It really is very simple.


Until 1977 the road signs in Texas read, "SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT",
those signs are being replaced with "LEFT LANE FOR PASSING ONLY". How
much clearer than that can it be? Even Kim should be able to grasp the
concept of that.
It is all spelled out in the Star Telegram article.


Slower than who or what? Slower than the flow of traffic ahead, or the
traffic behind? Slower than most of the drivers on the road, or slower than
the fewer drivers on the road (who are speeding faster)? A sign that simply
says "slower traffic keep right" is pretty darned ambiguous.

Kim W5TIT

"JJ" wrote in message
...
JJ wrote:

Kim W5TIT wrote:


This violator isn't in denial at all. This violator is waiting for
mere
words to turn into action...

Kim W5TIT


So your mentality is, "until I am caught, I will continue to break the
law." Do you speed throught school zones with that same attitude?


I asked this question of another poster and got no answer, so I will ask
you Kimmygirl. What is the fast speed you can go in a 15 MPH school zone?


JJ, this is probably the last response you'll ever see from me...because
you're disrespectful, childish, and pretty darned assinine to boot. The
fastest someone could go through a 15 MPH school zone would be as fast as
the vehicle can go. The fastest *I* would go in a 15 MPH school zone is
about 12-13 MPH. Now, shrivel your dick up and go play with it somewhere
else...

Kim W5TIT