(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...

Reciprocity. Steve does not respect my endeavors.

On Contraire, Brain...I have never "dissed" your occupation.

Oh? So what of your comments of the "1957C This is the Air Force."

What about them, Brain? I pointed out that your "duties" were
in an MOS that was well known as far back as 1957.

I never said anything disrespectful about the character of your
service in the USAF or your duties.

Perhaps you can produce the quote wherein I did?

I really can't believe anything you say.

No, you WON'T believe anything I say since it would disprove your
rants.

Steve, K4YZ


Worming your way out of it again, are you?

That's what worms do.

KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote


Perhaps it would be better if everyone were to just tell you that the
plan was the best thing they ever saw?



A lot of people have told me exactly that, but I'm sure there are some who
share your view that I'm out to lunch. Life's a bitch, and then I'll die
and they'll give my call sign away.

Do you really think I ever said you were out to lunch?. If I disagree
with portions of you plan, that's a big part of why we're here; I've
pointed out what I don't like (and even some parts I thought were
okay).....Wow, I'm a thoroughgoing *******, eh!

Your responses have been belittling and insulting for the most part. If
statements like "lifes a bitch..." and "that's a novel idea" as a
synonym for stupid and definition games are the best supporting
arguments you can make for your proposal, it isn't going to go too far.

Sobeit!

- Mike KB3EIA -

N2EY wrote:
In article k.net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:


What does Jim's story have to do with license testing?


Simple.

It shows that the FCC has very wide authority to set license test criteria,
including
such concepts as "character" and "discipline". Merely passing the tests is not
the only requirement for a license grant.

Normally the FCC assumes that all applicants for a ham license are "of good
character" unless there is a reason to suspect differently.

I think FCC could indeed legally implement Hans' one-shot learner license with
its upgrade-or-out provision. Their argument would be that someone who was a
ham for 10 years and yet c/wouldn't pass the full-privs test simply didn't have
the required "character" or "discipline" to stay in the ARS.


Hoo, I wonder how that would stand up in the courts! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message om...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

Hans is not the one professing to be the ex-professional author
and "radio professional", Brain.

If you're going to "brag" on some personal characteristic or past
achievement of your life, you should be ready to stand behind it.

Your "mentor" has made a point of insisting on what a
"professional" he is in both electronics and publishing. I think his
conduct herein belies his real character.

Clear enough for you?

Steve, K4YZ


Very clear, sort of.

Basically, if one is not making a claim to be a professional or
speaking of an achievement, he can be profane without being profane?

Sounds like more worm words.

That's what a worm uses.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

That gives him absolute permission to behave as an asshole off the
radio. No problem.

Again with the profanities, Lennie?

Len, what's going on here?

There were no outrages when Hans just called someone an a-hole.

It's "noblesse oblige" oriented, Brian. The "upper classes" and
royalty get to swear, vomit profanities, demean and denigrate the
lower classes because they all passed 20 WPM code tests.

It's the blue blood of the ruling amateurs. If you don't admire and
love and cherish their noble accomplishments, they turn blue and
use blue language. None others may do the same to them.

Maybe not blue, it's more like they are inviolate.

Stebe gets all red in the face and insists all are green with envy
for not being able to "radiate RF at great power" somehow
allowed to him alone. He's not yellow, doesn't shirk from trying
(vainly) to defend himself when he pales on thinking he's been
insulted.

Of course, any former E-5 or higher that thinks "asshole" is a
terribly profane word must be of the sissy pink coloring.

It's a gray area...

LHA

Hope he never sees a copy of Cinderella Liberty. I think Hans starred in it.

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

It should be obvious, Bill. US ham radio is all about "working
DX on HF with CW."

Same old song, huh? You wrote it and you're the only one singing it.
HF amateur radio is many things to many people, but you aren't one of
them.

Thank God for small favors ! ! ! !

73

Steve, K4YZ

So you think God is keeping Len out of the amateur radio service?

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote:
And the efforts of REACT and its members are commendable. However, any
public service performed is informal in nature, not the result of any
regulatory stipulation imposed by the FCC or federal government. There is
nothing in part 95 that mandates public service like that found in part
97.


OK, Dwight quote paragraph and section that states that amateurs MUST do
public service.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

"N2EY" wrote:

It shows that the FCC has very wide
authority to set license test criteria,
including such concepts as
"character" and "discipline". (snip)

Nonsense. It would be virtually impossible to test character or discipline
in a radio license test. The FCC hasn't done it and probably wouldn't ever
attempt to do so.

Point is, FCC has a wide latitude as far as testing and license requirements
goes. You may not like the concept but The Congress does.

Didja know that in 1940 FCC required all US hams to either sign a loyalty oath
or turn in their licenses? While not exactly a "character test", you can bet
that some hams' backgrounds were checked.

Such things seemed far-fetched a few years ago. Not any more.

Nice talking to you, Jim.

You too, Dwight.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Brian wrote:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

It should be obvious, Bill. US ham radio is all about "working
DX on HF with CW."

Same old song, huh? You wrote it and you're the only one singing it.
HF amateur radio is many things to many people, but you aren't one of
them.

Thank God for small favors ! ! ! !

73

Steve, K4YZ

So you think God is keeping Len out of the amateur radio service?

It may well be, Brian. After all, the man has declared a several
decades old interest in amateur radio but he can't bring himself to act
upon the interest. Our modern "Moses" may not be able to enter the
promised land.

Dave K8MN

"KØHB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"N2EY" wrote

What mode are those "foul mouthed yahoos" using? It isn't CW.....

Jim obviously isn't a DX'er, or he'd know about the infamous "pileup
police"
shenanigans regularly heard around 14.023 +/-. I could send you some .wav
files that aren't even fit to air on rrap.

73, de Hans, K0HB



You actually spend time recording it, huh? Wow, I am not so show I would
look forward to retirement.

Kim W5TIT