"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change doesn't happen without
work. Since Brian chooses only to complain and not dig in and do the work,
then he can't expect change. Brian's approach of changing because Brian
wants the change is the dictatorial approach.

Dictator Dee doth protestith too much.

I think I've been persuasive in my arguments with respect to changes
within the ARS. We've even got Hans discussing one full license class
w/o a Morse Code exam requirement, and a learners permit. Gee, where
have we heard that before?

No Brian is welcome to his opinion. But if he isn't willing to do the work
to effect a change then he is being unrealistic in expecting that change to
come to pass. That is all. He wants things to change just by saying he
wants them to change. I am challenging that self-centered, simplistic, and
unrealistic expectation.

No, Dee. Your self-centered, complex, and unrealistic expectation
that I lead a coup at the ARRL so that I can then have the ARRL effect
changes at the FCC is just not going to happen.

Ever heard of working smarter, not harder?

Brian is willing to do the work, but not the work that you have
demanded of me. Trying to change the ARRL is not my goal. They can
bumble along for another century if they so choose. And changing FCC
rules is not within the ability of the ARRL anyway. So where do you
think I've put my efforts?

You can try to maintain the ARRL status quo by spam-botting RRAP at
every opportunity, and I think you've got your work cut out for you.

I'll keep changing the ARS one amateur radio operator at a time.

FWIW, it seems to be working.

"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
igy.com...

No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change doesn't happen without
work. Since Brian chooses only to complain and not dig in and do the
work,
then he can't expect change. Brian's approach of changing because Brian
wants the change is the dictatorial approach.

Dictator Dee doth protestith too much.

I think I've been persuasive in my arguments with respect to changes
within the ARS. We've even got Hans discussing one full license class
w/o a Morse Code exam requirement, and a learners permit. Gee, where
have we heard that before?

No Brian is welcome to his opinion. But if he isn't willing to do the
work
to effect a change then he is being unrealistic in expecting that change
to
come to pass. That is all. He wants things to change just by saying he
wants them to change. I am challenging that self-centered, simplistic,
and
unrealistic expectation.

No, Dee. Your self-centered, complex, and unrealistic expectation
that I lead a coup at the ARRL so that I can then have the ARRL effect
changes at the FCC is just not going to happen.

Ever heard of working smarter, not harder?

Brian is willing to do the work, but not the work that you have
demanded of me. Trying to change the ARRL is not my goal. They can
bumble along for another century if they so choose. And changing FCC
rules is not within the ability of the ARRL anyway. So where do you
think I've put my efforts?

You can try to maintain the ARRL status quo by spam-botting RRAP at
every opportunity, and I think you've got your work cut out for you.

I'll keep changing the ARS one amateur radio operator at a time.

FWIW, it seems to be working.

Sorry but haven't seen you change anyone here. From what I've seen, each
and every person here has there own opinion and continues to promote that
idea.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Brian" wrote

We've even got Hans discussing one full license class
w/o a Morse Code exam requirement, and a learners
permit. Gee, where have we heard that before?

Don't flatter yourself, Brian. I've been discussing that notion since the
mid 1960's when the FCC and ARRL were busy dreaming up their dis-incentive
licensing fiasco.

Sunuvagun, isn't it a shame I've spoiled another of your organ-grinder dance
tunes.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"Brian" wrote

We've even got Hans discussing one full license class
w/o a Morse Code exam requirement, and a learners
permit. Gee, where have we heard that before?

Don't flatter yourself, Brian. I've been discussing that notion since the
mid 1960's when the FCC and ARRL were busy dreaming up their dis-incentive
licensing fiasco.

Is that documentable? Letters and pictures with circles and arrows?

"Brian" wrote i


Is that documentable? Letters and pictures with circles and arrows?

Build yourself a time machine and go back 40 years and look.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Brian" wrote i


Is that documentable? Letters and pictures with circles and arrows?

Build yourself a time machine and go back 40 years and look.

Hansel, if you don't have the proper documentation then it doesn't count.

"Brian" wrote

Hansel, if you don't have the proper documentation then it doesn't count.

Brian, you have me confused with someone who gives a **** how you feel about
documentation. In other words, you don't count.

Kill-file=ON. Plonk.

With warmest personal regards,

de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Brian" wrote

Hansel, if you don't have the proper documentation then it doesn't count.

Brian, you have me confused with someone who gives a **** how you feel about
documentation. In other words, you don't count.

Kill-file=ON. Plonk.

With warmest personal regards,

de Hans, K0HB

Hansel, there appears to be some confusion, but its on your part.
This group will beat up on you pretty badly if you don't have the
documentation. Verbal agreements with someone 40 years ago don't
count. I didn't make the rule.

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Brian" wrote i


Is that documentable? Letters and pictures with circles and arrows?

Build yourself a time machine and go back 40 years and look.

Hansel, if you don't have the proper documentation then it doesn't count.

You mean like your alleged /T5 operation?

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Brian" wrote i


Is that documentable? Letters and pictures with circles and arrows?

Build yourself a time machine and go back 40 years and look.

Hansel, if you don't have the proper documentation then it doesn't count.

You mean like your alleged /T5 operation?

Which one?