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Old December 23rd 03, 02:34 AM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Brian wrote:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.

You'll pardon our confusion. You've been acting as Len's representative
for a few posts now in speaking of his motivations or lack thereof. I
wasn't aware that you'd turned the controls over to him.


Brian Burke is not my "representative" nor am I his.


You'll likely want to straighten the lad out then, Leonard. He has been
speaking for you of late.


We just happen to agree that the Morse Exam has to go and that the ARS
is divided between folks who can accept change, and those who cannot.

It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.


I'll mark that down as yet another of things we know are not your life's
ambition. It'll be listed right under "amateur radio license".


I think working Frenchmen out of band otta be #2.

Morse code skills are needed ONLY in amateur radio...


...then it is one of those things which shouldn't bother you in the
least.


Bothers me.

according
to certain long-timers who have few other skills and ebody hatred
and bigotry against all on that one extremely important (to them)
skill in amateur radio.


I have lots of amateur radio skills, Len. Morse code proficiency is but
one of them. I use other modes and often QSO those amateurs who have no
HF access at all.


What? No Morse?

What? No HF?

Such as out of band Frenchmen on 6M?

If it is your purpose as a newsgroupie to spread malicious lies
about others, to challenge "motivations" of those not thinking as
your holiness does, then you are doing a fine job.


Please tell us what you view as an example of a malicious lie which has
been spread about you, Leonard. It can't be about your lack of
motivation toward obtaining an amateur radio license. You've declared a
decades-long interest. You bragged that you'd get an "Extra right out
of the box". A code-free exam has been available for a number of years.
Straighten us out.

I am not "motivated" to love, honor, and cherish morse code as
the embodyment of expertise in radio of past times. Been in real
HF radio communications before most of these newsgroupies
were in existance...never used morse code, never had to...but
only as a professional, not as an amateur.


I've pointed out the availability of a code-free license which provides
access to the VHF/UHF frequencies which you say are the new frontier.
Your motivation hasn't extended to obtaining one of those. You have no
incentive for overcoming your inertia.


Now that all the Techs have been chased off of VHF, where do you
'spect them to go?
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Old December 23rd 03, 04:09 AM
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Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Brian wrote:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.

You'll pardon our confusion. You've been acting as Len's representative
for a few posts now in speaking of his motivations or lack thereof. I
wasn't aware that you'd turned the controls over to him.

Brian Burke is not my "representative" nor am I his.


You'll likely want to straighten the lad out then, Leonard. He has been
speaking for you of late.


We just happen to agree that the Morse Exam has to go and that the ARS
is divided between folks who can accept change, and those who cannot.


Perhaps Len's mistaken views can be excused. He isn't, after all, a
part of amateur radio. You, on the other hand, should know better.

It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.


I'll mark that down as yet another of things we know are not your life's
ambition. It'll be listed right under "amateur radio license".


I think working Frenchmen out of band otta be #2.


Okay, Brian, I'll do as you've requested.

THINGS WHICH ARE NOT LEONARD ANDERSON'S LIFE'S AMBITION

1. It is not my life's ambition to obtain an amateur radio license.

2. It is not my life's ambition to work Frenchmen out of band.

3. It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.

Feel better now?

Morse code skills are needed ONLY in amateur radio...


...then it is one of those things which shouldn't bother you in the
least.


Bothers me.


I can deal with that.

according
to certain long-timers who have few other skills and ebody hatred
and bigotry against all on that one extremely important (to them)
skill in amateur radio.


I have lots of amateur radio skills, Len. Morse code proficiency is but
one of them. I use other modes and often QSO those amateurs who have no
HF access at all.


What? No Morse?

What? No HF?

Such as out of band Frenchmen on 6M?


I broke no Tanzanian regs, operated where I was permitted to be and did
nothing to encourage French stations to leave their alloted band
segments. If you, after all this time, still have a problem, you need
to follow the advice I gave you ages ago: Contact the French PTT and
the REF.

If it is your purpose as a newsgroupie to spread malicious lies
about others, to challenge "motivations" of those not thinking as
your holiness does, then you are doing a fine job.


Please tell us what you view as an example of a malicious lie which has
been spread about you, Leonard. It can't be about your lack of
motivation toward obtaining an amateur radio license. You've declared a
decades-long interest. You bragged that you'd get an "Extra right out
of the box". A code-free exam has been available for a number of years.
Straighten us out.

I am not "motivated" to love, honor, and cherish morse code as
the embodyment of expertise in radio of past times. Been in real
HF radio communications before most of these newsgroupies
were in existance...never used morse code, never had to...but
only as a professional, not as an amateur.


I've pointed out the availability of a code-free license which provides
access to the VHF/UHF frequencies which you say are the new frontier.
Your motivation hasn't extended to obtaining one of those. You have no
incentive for overcoming your inertia.


Now that all the Techs have been chased off of VHF, where do you
'spect them to go?


Really? The Techs have been chased from VHF? When and how did this
transpire? How would it keep Leonard from obtaining a code-free
license?

Dave K8MN
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Old December 23rd 03, 06:29 AM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message

...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil


writes:

Brian wrote:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.

You'll pardon our confusion. You've been acting as Len's

representative
for a few posts now in speaking of his motivations or lack thereof. I
wasn't aware that you'd turned the controls over to him.

Brian Burke is not my "representative" nor am I his.

You'll likely want to straighten the lad out then, Leonard. He has been
speaking for you of late.


We just happen to agree that the Morse Exam has to go and that the ARS
is divided between folks who can accept change, and those who cannot.


Perhaps Len's mistaken views can be excused.


"Mistaken views?!?" :-)

The Lord High Executioner mumbled something again before he
fell off the scaffold in a drunken stupor...


... You, on the other hand, should know better.


Why do you say that?

Saying that as you do implies that you are a god of amateur radio
who has ALL the answers. You don't.


It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.

I'll mark that down as yet another of things we know are not your life's
ambition. It'll be listed right under "amateur radio license".


I think working Frenchmen out of band otta be #2.


Okay, Brian, I'll do as you've requested.

THINGS WHICH ARE NOT LEONARD ANDERSON'S LIFE'S AMBITION

1. It is not my life's ambition to obtain an amateur radio license.


Explain to me why this is so "necessary," high holy god of ham.

2. It is not my life's ambition to work Frenchmen out of band.


I'm not keen to work them IN band.

Why is that so necessary, high holy god of ham?

3. It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.


But it IS YOURS, right, high holy god of ham?


I can deal with that.


You can't deal a deck of cards...much less deal with debate on
issues...you always switch to insulting each and every person
who disagrees with your opinions.



Now that all the Techs have been chased off of VHF, where do you
'spect them to go?


Really? The Techs have been chased from VHF? When and how did this
transpire? How would it keep Leonard from obtaining a code-free
license?


Why must I obtain a "code-free license?"

Why can't it be a "coded" license?

I've had a code-free license since 1956.

LHA
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Old December 26th 03, 05:59 PM
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message

...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil


writes:

Brian wrote:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.

You'll pardon our confusion. You've been acting as Len's

representative
for a few posts now in speaking of his motivations or lack thereof. I
wasn't aware that you'd turned the controls over to him.

Brian Burke is not my "representative" nor am I his.

You'll likely want to straighten the lad out then, Leonard. He has been
speaking for you of late.

We just happen to agree that the Morse Exam has to go and that the ARS
is divided between folks who can accept change, and those who cannot.


Perhaps Len's mistaken views can be excused.


"Mistaken views?!?" :-)


Yes, mistaken views.

... You, on the other hand, should know better.


Why do you say that?


....because, unlike you, he has an amateur radio license and has held it
for some time.

Saying that as you do implies that you are a god of amateur radio
who has ALL the answers. You don't.


You've waffled on this issue for some time. In the past, you've held
that I am a god of amateur radio. In frequent reversals, you've stated
that I am not. I think I'll wait until the several of you inside the
Leonard Anderson cranium come to an agreement.

It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.

I'll mark that down as yet another of things we know are not your life's
ambition. It'll be listed right under "amateur radio license".

I think working Frenchmen out of band otta be #2.


Okay, Brian, I'll do as you've requested.

THINGS WHICH ARE NOT LEONARD ANDERSON'S LIFE'S AMBITION

1. It is not my life's ambition to obtain an amateur radio license.


Explain to me why this is so "necessary," high holy god of ham.


I didn't write that it was necessary. Pay attention.

2. It is not my life's ambition to work Frenchmen out of band.


I'm not keen to work them IN band.


Relax. You won't have to worry about working them at all.

Why is that so necessary, high holy god of ham?


I didn't write that it was necessary. Pay attention.

3. It is not my Life's Ambition to immortalize morse code as the
epitome of amateurism in an avocational radio activity.


But it IS YOURS, right, high holy god of ham?


The list isn't about me, Len. It is about you. Pay attention.

I can deal with that.


You can't deal a deck of cards...much less deal with debate on
issues...you always switch to insulting each and every person
who disagrees with your opinions.


Did your face redden as you typed those words? C'mon, fess up.

Now that all the Techs have been chased off of VHF, where do you
'spect them to go?


Really? The Techs have been chased from VHF? When and how did this
transpire? How would it keep Leonard from obtaining a code-free
license?


Why must I obtain a "code-free license?"


You don't have to do anything. Let inertia be your guide. Pay
attention.

Why can't it be a "coded" license?


It can, Len. First you'd have to overcome inertia. Pay attention.

I've had a code-free license since 1956.


We're discussing amateur radio, Len. Pay attention.

Dave K8MN


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