"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

In article .net, "KØHB"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote

Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.

I knew you'd agree with me.

How could it be otherwise?

You are the Chief of the Boat in this SSBN, olde-tymer. If anyone
disagrees with your plan you go ballistic.

LHA

"KØHB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

While I agree on the generality of that, such is impossible under
the present-day Class Distinction Rules of US amateur radio.

ALL perceived expertise is judged by the "amateur community"
as demonstrated by the fancy-bordered license (suitable for
framing) from the federal government.

The Amateur Extra is the epitome of excellence. Once achieved,
nothing else need be learned. Education ends. You have been
told by his Most High Excellency, the Dill Instructor.

All learning comes through having tiers and tiers of classes, of
distinctions (enforced by law) right along with the social need of
call letters written behind the name to signify a "title" all may see
(and admire, respect) as if it is a dukedom, barony, or other
noble rank. That is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not criticize any
statements of the ruling classes of the "community."

US amateur radio seems to have ceased being a hobby, an
avocational activity done for personal recreation. It has become a
LIFESTYLE...a True Belief.

cut to stock shot of Rod Serling and signpost up ahead, voice
sign-off by Rod...up theme and take black...

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

While I agree on the generality of that, such is impossible under
the present-day Class Distinction Rules of US amateur radio.

ALL perceived expertise is judged by the "amateur community"
as demonstrated by the fancy-bordered license (suitable for
framing) from the federal government.

The Amateur Extra is the epitome of excellence. Once achieved,
nothing else need be learned. Education ends. You have been
told by his Most High Excellency, the Dill Instructor.

All learning comes through having tiers and tiers of classes, of
distinctions (enforced by law) right along with the social need of
call letters written behind the name to signify a "title" all may see
(and admire, respect) as if it is a dukedom, barony, or other
noble rank. That is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not criticize any
statements of the ruling classes of the "community."

US amateur radio seems to have ceased being a hobby, an
avocational activity done for personal recreation. It has become a
LIFESTYLE...a True Belief.

cut to stock shot of Rod Serling and signpost up ahead, voice
sign-off by Rod...up theme and take black...

LHA

And poor Mike is getting beat up for saying the W1AW signal was too wide.

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"KØHB" wrote in message
thlink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

While I agree on the generality of that, such is impossible under
the present-day Class Distinction Rules of US amateur radio.

ALL perceived expertise is judged by the "amateur community"
as demonstrated by the fancy-bordered license (suitable for
framing) from the federal government.

The Amateur Extra is the epitome of excellence. Once achieved,
nothing else need be learned. Education ends. You have been
told by his Most High Excellency, the Dill Instructor.

All learning comes through having tiers and tiers of classes, of
distinctions (enforced by law) right along with the social need of
call letters written behind the name to signify a "title" all may see
(and admire, respect) as if it is a dukedom, barony, or other
noble rank. That is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not criticize any
statements of the ruling classes of the "community."

US amateur radio seems to have ceased being a hobby, an
avocational activity done for personal recreation. It has become a
LIFESTYLE...a True Belief.

cut to stock shot of Rod Serling and signpost up ahead, voice
sign-off by Rod...up theme and take black...

LHA

And poor Mike is getting beat up for saying the W1AW signal was too wide.

Newsgroup rules. Make ONE mistake and absolutely everything
else the mistaker posts is "incorrect, faulty, irrelevant!" :-)

ARRL can do no wrong. Ergo, W1AW's signal is perfect. No problem.

LHA

Brian wrote:
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

In article ,
(Brian) writes:


"KØHB" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

While I agree on the generality of that, such is impossible under
the present-day Class Distinction Rules of US amateur radio.

ALL perceived expertise is judged by the "amateur community"
as demonstrated by the fancy-bordered license (suitable for
framing) from the federal government.

The Amateur Extra is the epitome of excellence. Once achieved,
nothing else need be learned. Education ends. You have been
told by his Most High Excellency, the Dill Instructor.

All learning comes through having tiers and tiers of classes, of
distinctions (enforced by law) right along with the social need of
call letters written behind the name to signify a "title" all may see
(and admire, respect) as if it is a dukedom, barony, or other
noble rank. That is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not criticize any
statements of the ruling classes of the "community."

US amateur radio seems to have ceased being a hobby, an
avocational activity done for personal recreation. It has become a
LIFESTYLE...a True Belief.

cut to stock shot of Rod Serling and signpost up ahead, voice
sign-off by Rod...up theme and take black...

LHA


And poor Mike is getting beat up for saying the W1AW signal was too wide.

It has to be me! 8^)

I've done enough post testing on this to be pretty sure that it isn't
me though.

The Waterfall screen in Digipan functions pretty nicely as a poor man's
analyzer. The signal was putting "crap" all over the place.

I wasn't the only person who noticed the problem.

I was not able to duplicate anything like the problem with the RTTY
contest, which had many strong signals, and should have been worse if my
reciever was overloading. I'm impressed with how nicely the old 745
performs.

The problem - whatever it was - was in the W1AW signal.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike,

It seems to me that the bandwidth calculations given for CW are based
on 'true' CW - that is, carrier on / off operation.

I wonder if W1AW pre-records their CW material in audio format, then
broadcasts it as a modulated SSB signal - would that not stretch the
signal bandwidth out considerably?

Anyone know if this might be the case?

73, Leo


On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:00:37 -0500, Mike Coslo wrote:

snip

It has to be me! 8^)

I've done enough post testing on this to be pretty sure that it isn't
me though.

The Waterfall screen in Digipan functions pretty nicely as a poor man's
analyzer. The signal was putting "crap" all over the place.

I wasn't the only person who noticed the problem.

I was not able to duplicate anything like the problem with the RTTY
contest, which had many strong signals, and should have been worse if my
reciever was overloading. I'm impressed with how nicely the old 745
performs.

The problem - whatever it was - was in the W1AW signal.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Leo
writes:

I wonder if W1AW pre-records their CW material in audio format, then
broadcasts it as a modulated SSB signal - would that not stretch the
signal bandwidth out considerably?

Yes, but that's not how it's done.

Anyone know if this might be the case?

Here's how it was when I visited in 1993:

The W1AW main transmitters are Harris transceivers and amplifiers, all computer
controlled from a master console in the little building out in front of Hq.
Bulletin and code practice texts are sent over the network from the
headquarters building and the local computer keys all the rigs simultaneously.
(Text-to-Morse conversion is done in the local computer).

Of course a faulty command from the computer, a bad cable or problem in one of
the "professional grade" rigs could wreak all kinds of havoc.

But they don't feed audio into the rigs for Morse or RTTY.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Brian wrote:
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

In article ,
(Brian) writes:


"KØHB" wrote in message
. earthlink.net...

"Len Over 21" wrote


Anything said against YOUR PLAN is worthless, illogical,
inconsequential, irresponsible, irrelevant, etc., etc., etc.


I knew you'd agree with me.

73, de Hans, K0HB

I just happen to agree with Hans' plan. Allow the amateur to
distinguish him or herself through actions rather than an FCC forced
march.

While I agree on the generality of that, such is impossible under
the present-day Class Distinction Rules of US amateur radio.

ALL perceived expertise is judged by the "amateur community"
as demonstrated by the fancy-bordered license (suitable for
framing) from the federal government.

The Amateur Extra is the epitome of excellence. Once achieved,
nothing else need be learned. Education ends. You have been
told by his Most High Excellency, the Dill Instructor.

All learning comes through having tiers and tiers of classes, of
distinctions (enforced by law) right along with the social need of
call letters written behind the name to signify a "title" all may see
(and admire, respect) as if it is a dukedom, barony, or other
noble rank. That is VERY IMPORTANT. Do not criticize any
statements of the ruling classes of the "community."

US amateur radio seems to have ceased being a hobby, an
avocational activity done for personal recreation. It has become a
LIFESTYLE...a True Belief.

cut to stock shot of Rod Serling and signpost up ahead, voice
sign-off by Rod...up theme and take black...

LHA


And poor Mike is getting beat up for saying the W1AW signal was too wide.

It has to be me! 8^)

I've done enough post testing on this to be pretty sure that it isn't
me though.

The Waterfall screen in Digipan functions pretty nicely as a poor man's

analyzer. The signal was putting "crap" all over the place.

I wasn't the only person who noticed the problem.

I was not able to duplicate anything like the problem with the RTTY
contest, which had many strong signals, and should have been worse if my
reciever was overloading. I'm impressed with how nicely the old 745
performs.

The problem - whatever it was - was in the W1AW signal.

It's extremely hard to believe that W1AW could ever foul up. They are
so Perfect!

You must have been out of the shack, watching Reality shows too
much!

LHA