Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 4/2/2004 7:02 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 4/1/2004 12:10 PM Central Standard Time
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Sounds like you're going down on JJ's boat.

At least we can throw him a life preserver.

You, on the otherhand, are going down on Lennie.

You always say the most perverted things.

You forget, Brain...

It's YOU who provides me with the material...

That we can't help you with.

Right. Pffft. Whacko.

Remind us again about your Somalia DX operation and please explain how
the "unlicensed radio services play a "major role" in emergency
communications...".

There's a "whacko" here, but it's not me.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

Yes many people are unaware of the death rates from some of these diseases.
For example, the death rate among children who caught whooping cough was
50%.

And many are unaware of the mental death rate of intelligence due
to the intellectually-toxic effects of too much morse code.

By the way, this newsgroup is about amateur radio policy, not the
state of the medical or medicinal arts. The FCC doesn't regulate
medicine in the USA even though some of their regulations and
rulings are a bitter pill for some to swallow. :-)

Good luck on your search for the proper venue to lend your medical
expertise and needling to some other group.

LHA / WMD

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

There is also a lot of bad science out there involving immunizations. For
example, there are still folks trying to sell the idea that immunizations
are
somehow a cause of autism, even though repeated scientific studies have
shown
no causality. There *is* a sort of correlation in that the first definitive
signs of autism are usually observed about the age of many common
immunizations.

The very success of immunizations has been a big part of the
controversy sround their continued use. "After all, no one gets these
diseases anymore, so why should we immunize for them?"

TAFKA, Mike, my youngest son is autistic. He was immunizised. Can
you tell me what caused it?

Was it all the crap they pumped into me before I went to Somalia? Was
it his own immunizations?

Do you know?

Agreed.

Agreed to what??? Should I teach him Morris Code so he can
communicate with me?

And of course the reason such diseases are almost gone is - universal
immunization.

My son is in a classroom of -all- autistic children in a small
community of less than 20,000.

Stupid logic, but there are some pretty stupid people out there.

Lots and lots of stupid people. Like those demanding continued Morse
Code exams.

Since you're a smart person, you have the answer.

What caused my son's autism?

If they think immunizations are bad, they should see how bad not
immunization is.

Yep. This is one reason why the study of history - real history - is so
important.

Someday someone will write the history of autism.

The real history. What causes it.

TAFKARJ and Mike won't be mentioned.

(William) wrote in message . com...
Steveo wrote in message ...

JJ the no-call ham.

No Call = No Ham

JJ = No Ham

(William) wrote in message om...
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

Oh well, I have mixed thoughts on the "new censorship " going on. I
prefer the airways cleaned up, but I would just as soon have Howard
removed from them because he stinks than for his profanity.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Few practice personal responsibility.

My rule is that if its indecent for children, its indecent for adults.

Mike, do you disagree? Stebe, ditto?

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...

But Brain...You and Lennie ARE the "superior intellect" that I am laughing
at.

Which is what makes you so obviously crazy.

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...

And I've heard that in the OB-GYN category that it is nearly impossible to
find one who will accept a high risk client these days.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Its just awful. We do emergency comms for the continuity of
government, and those awful citizens are suing the nice doctors. As
soon as we nationalize health care, all these bad people will just
have to lump it or leave it.

William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


There is also a lot of bad science out there involving immunizations. For
example, there are still folks trying to sell the idea that immunizations
are
somehow a cause of autism, even though repeated scientific studies have
shown
no causality. There *is* a sort of correlation in that the first definitive
signs of autism are usually observed about the age of many common
immunizations.

The very success of immunizations has been a big part of the
controversy sround their continued use. "After all, no one gets these
diseases anymore, so why should we immunize for them?"


TAFKA, Mike, my youngest son is autistic. He was immunizised. Can
you tell me what caused it?

Was it all the crap they pumped into me before I went to Somalia? Was
it his own immunizations?

Do you know?

No I don't, and I'm sorry to hear that, Brian.

From what I have read, seen, and heard, I doubt it is chemicals put
into *you*. Most of that stuff is not good for you, though. And the rise
in autism doesn't correlate too well with immunizations IMO.

Here is my take on why a lot of children have developmental problems
that seem to be on the increase, per capita wise:

I think think there is a chemical problem in general. I think that
possibly a combination of food additives and chemicals that are making
people ill and interfering with proper development.

Here's an interesting link:

http://www.nontoxic.com/nontoxic/injured.html

lots of chemicals that we are using on a daily basis are not good for us
at all.

and

http://www.edelsoncenter.com/aut_chem.htm

yet another link dealing with premature puberty:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/479363.stm

http://www.emagazine.com/november-de...gl_health.html

The last links are here because kids are being exposed to these
chemicals that mimic hormones and mess with their proper development.

snippage

There are so many chemicals that we are putting in our bodies, from the
preservatives in vaccinations, to the carcinogens that we clean our
carpets with, and then put our babies down on those same carpets
thinking that they now have a clean healthy place to play in. We seal
our houses tightly to save money on fuel, and then breathe formaldehyde
contaminated air from the carpets, insulation, and paneling. We eat
meat that has been raised with hormones and antibiotics so that it grows
quicker. When I was a coach, an amazing amount of the kids playing on my
teams had to use inhalers for their asthma. These are supposedly healthy
kids - they are not.

How on earth do we know which chemical or combination of chemicals is
doing what?

What is going to happen to these children as they age? Are the asthma
cases going to worsen? Probably will. These children going through
premature puberty will probably age more rapidly - but who knows? But
something is wrong, and I think it is a whole lot of different chemicals.

- Mike KB3EIA -

William wrote:

(William) wrote in message om...

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...


Oh well, I have mixed thoughts on the "new censorship " going on. I
prefer the airways cleaned up, but I would just as soon have Howard
removed from them because he stinks than for his profanity.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Few practice personal responsibility.

My rule is that if its indecent for children, its indecent for adults.


Mike, do you disagree? Stebe, ditto?

I think that there is a difference between children and adults.
Obviously sexual activity is one difference. For kids, it isn't good,
but for adults, if it goes away, we are just like the Shakers. Humanity
goes away after a generation.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 4/3/2004 5:26 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

There is also a lot of bad science out there involving immunizations.
For
example, there are still folks trying to sell the idea that
immunizations
are
somehow a cause of autism, even though repeated scientific studies have
shown
no causality. There *is* a sort of correlation in that the first
definitive
signs of autism are usually observed about the age of many common
immunizations.

The very success of immunizations has been a big part of the
controversy sround their continued use. "After all, no one gets these
diseases anymore, so why should we immunize for them?"

TAFKA, Mike, my youngest son is autistic. He was immunizised. Can
you tell me what caused it?

Was it all the crap they pumped into me before I went to Somalia? Was
it his own immunizations?

Autism predates the widespread use of immunizations, Brian.

It, like many other birth defects, are still non-specific in etiology. No
one can take a test to determine if some combination of DNA or enviromental
exposures will induce it.

My daughter's birth defects were generally attributed to aerially
deployed agricultural defoliants, but at the end of the day, the answer was a
shrugh and a "Who knows...!??!"

Agreed to what??? Should I teach him Morris Code so he can
communicate with me?

Many Autistic children show a predispostion to defered methods of
communication, but I doubt Morse Code would be one of them.

And of course the reason such diseases are almost gone is - universal
immunization.

My son is in a classroom of -all- autistic children in a small
community of less than 20,000.

Some current thinking on this is that it's not a necessarily wise thing to
do. Behavioral modification is best thought to work when they are placed in
"normal" enviroments. Unfortunately the realities of economics and minimal
resources dictate otherwise.

Lots and lots of stupid people. Like those demanding continued Morse
Code exams.

You equate inequities of your child's birth defects with Morse Code
testing?

Since you're a smart person, you have the answer.

What caused my son's autism?

Mother Nature sucks. What caused my daughter to be born with only 25% of
her brain? All we can do is love them, care for them, and try our best to
prepare them for when we're not here.

If they think immunizations are bad, they should see how bad not
immunization is.

Yep. This is one reason why the study of history - real history - is so
important.

Someday someone will write the history of autism.

The real history. What causes it.

Let's hope it's real soon.

All of our newsgroup bantering aside, Brian, I have a significant amount of
experience in developmental disorders of children. I am at your service if I
can help. Nothing gets in the way of a child.

73

Steve, K4YZ